Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
787 Gauntlet Testing Could Start Very Soon  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 19645 times:

Boeing, it seems is very close to starting gauntlet testing as early as tonight or tomorrow. Intermediate gauntlet will kick things off and should last a week. Final gauntlet would follow but I'm not sure how long that would last.

Boeing is taking advantage of mature systems as well as better test planning to push the schedule to the left.

Read it here:

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/05/g...ris-intermediate-gauntlet-may.html

and here:

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/05/f...ghtblogger-details-on-revised.html


That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
70 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 19540 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Boeing, it seems is very close to starting gauntlet testing as early as tonight or tomorrow. Intermediate gauntlet will kick things off and should last a week. Final gauntlet would follow but I'm not sure how long that would last.

Great news!

Uh...what is gauntlet testing?


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 19553 times:



Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 1):
Uh...what is gauntlet testing?

Read this here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...etting-from-here-to-there-787.html



That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
User currently offlineIwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 19407 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Boeing, it seems is very close to starting gauntlet testing as early as tonight or tomorrow. Intermediate gauntlet will kick things off and should last a week. Final gauntlet would follow but I'm not sure how long that would last.

Boeing is taking advantage of mature systems as well as better test planning to push the schedule to the left.

Read it here:

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/05/g...ris-intermediate-gauntlet-may.html

and here:

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/05/f....html

One step closer to first flight. Its about bloody time!

It seems like the engineers have things more under control now, as opposed to the marketing guys, and thats a real good thing  Wink

iwok


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 19099 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
Uh...what is gauntlet testing?

Read this here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...etting-from-here-to-there-787.html

Thanks. Now I know everything except where the name "gauntlet" came from. Smile


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30989 posts, RR: 86
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 19046 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 4):
Thanks. Now I know everything except where the name "gauntlet" came from.  Smile

One of the definitions for the word "gauntlet" is "trying conditions; an ordeal."

Since the tests run in sequence with little to no breaks in between them, they're known as a "gauntlet".


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 18034 times:

First 'on the record' mention of the first flight being 'in June' - by no less than the Boeing CEO:-

"CHICAGO, May 27 (Reuters) - Boeing Co's delayed 787 Dreamliner (BA.N) is on track for its first test flight next month, Boeing Chief Executive Jim McNerney said on Wednesday.

"I think the airplane will fly in June. We will embark on a flight test program as we described it," McNerney said on a webcast of the Sanford C. Bernstein & Co's Strategic Decisions Conference."


http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUKN2726323420090527

17 days to go to the opening of the Paris Air Show..........



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17651 times:



Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 4):
Thanks. Now I know everything except where the name "gauntlet" came from. Smile

In medieval times, the knights on horseback wore gauntlets or heavy gloves. When they wanted to challenge another knight to a duel, they threw down their gauntlet at his feet to challenge him. If he picked up the gauntlet, they started their duel. This could be translated as a series of tests to see who was stronger.
So in a convoluted way the word gauntlet has come to mean tests, but not sure when that happened.


User currently offlineDynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 873 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17458 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
One of the definitions for the word "gauntlet" is "trying conditions; an ordeal."

Since the tests run in sequence with little to no breaks in between them, they're known as a "gauntlet".



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 7):

In medieval times, the knights on horseback wore gauntlets or heavy gloves.

Stitch is closer. Though you spell the words the same, the etymology is completely different for the two. I would wager that in this context the gauntlet refered to is that from the term "running the gauntlet", an evolution from the earlier English word "gantlope" This is borrowed from the Swedish "gatlopp", a compound of "gata" meaning lane and "lopp" meaning course.

"Running the gauntlet" was a punishment which involved passing between two rows of men armed with sticks to beat the person being punished.

The gauntlet from "throwing down the gauntlet" is from the diminutive form of the French word "gant", meaning glove. The existence of this word probably influenced the evolution of "gantlope" to "gauntlet".

[Edited 2009-05-28 03:45:29]

User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2899 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17424 times:



Quoting Dynamicsguy (Reply 8):
Though you spell the words the same, the etymology is completely different for the two.

You're right actually (I had no idea that there would be two different etymologies!):

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=gauntlet&searchmode=none



I scratch my head, therefore I am.
User currently offlineRbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17075 times:

Great news, I'm sure, but somebody nudge me when it is going to depart the runway for the first time. All this "we're getting there, almost there, almost really there, I think it will be June" news is getting a bit tedious.

User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 15556 times:



Quoting NAV20 (Reply 6):
First 'on the record' mention of the first flight being 'in June' - by no less than the Boeing CEO:-

"CHICAGO, May 27 (Reuters) - Boeing Co's delayed 787 Dreamliner (BA.N) is on track for its first test flight next month, Boeing Chief Executive Jim McNerney said on Wednesday.

"I think the airplane will fly in June. We will embark on a flight test program as we described it," McNerney said on a webcast of the Sanford C. Bernstein & Co's Strategic Decisions Conference."

Well then there you go. Perhaps we can put to rest the rumors, at least for now, of first flight not happening in June. I'm glad Boeing is picking up some momentum, and it appears the overall morale at Boeing is looking up again. Kudos to the all the men and women in working so hard on this program to get it back on track.

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):

Thank you NYC777 for all the great work keeping us updated. I very much appreciate it  thumbsup   checkmark 



We often judge others by their actions, but ourselves by our intentions.
User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 15470 times:

Using the latest info from Boeing I'm thinking flight in about three weeks.


Airliners.net Moderator Team
User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 15203 times:



Quoting Rbgso (Reply 10):
All this "we're getting there, almost there, almost really there, I think it will be June" news is getting a bit tedious.

Do really expect it to be any other way?? Every movement on the 787 will be "news worthy"...just ignore it if you don't like it.

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 12):
Using the latest info from Boeing I'm thinking flight in about three weeks.

Just in time to make a fly over at Paris  duck  Yeah I know, it ain't happening, but that would be cool if it was flying during the Paris airshow, not at the show, but just flying around the Pacific NW. Would be a nice PR boost for Boeing.



We often judge others by their actions, but ourselves by our intentions.
User currently offlineBeagleboys From Italy, joined Jun 2006, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 15123 times:



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
Just in time to make a fly over at Paris    Yeah I know, it ain't happening, but that would be cool if it was flying during the Paris airshow, not at the show, but just flying around the Pacific NW.

well... boeing it's the only plane maker that has not yet said what plane will show in paris...
So, BOEING plz... make this my first expo unforgettable!!! Surprise me!!!



Nervous? Yes. First Times? No, I've been nervous lots of times. -Airplane!
User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 14771 times:

I'm hoping the 787 heralds the return of wide body traffic to MCI.  bouncy 
CO, AA and DL all have a foothold here.



Airliners.net Moderator Team
User currently offlineAndhen From Norway, joined Dec 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 14283 times:

Anybody know how many 787 would be flying with liverys now, if boeings had delivered in accordance to the original schedule?


a332/3, 773-ER
User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30989 posts, RR: 86
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 14116 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting Andhen (Reply 16):
Anybody know how many 787 would be flying with liverys now, if boeings had delivered in accordance to the original schedule?

A few score, probably. The original plan was to have over 100 in service by the end of 2009.


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13732 times:

Just published this:

The Road to 787 First Flight - May 28 - 2nd gauntlet phase set to begin
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...road-to-787-first-flight---15.html

ZA001's seven-day intermediate gauntlet could get underway as early as the middle of the day today in Everett, sources indicate.

The first 787 was scheduled to undergo multiple engine runs starting in the wee hours of this morning.

Following those engine runs, the flight test team would hold a pre-gauntlet meeting this morning to evaluate the aircraft's readiness for the intermediate gauntlet. If the stamp of approval is given and no further testing is required, the second - and longest - phase of gauntlet testing will get underway in the late morning or middle of the day in Everett.
---

Onward,

IAD787



Former FlightBlogger turned Wall Street Journal Aerospace Beat Reporter
User currently offlineCosmofly From United States of America, joined May 2009, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13166 times:

When is the earliest possible first flight based on new update?

User currently offlineMattcawby From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 208 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12488 times:



Quoting IAD787 (Reply 18):
ZA001's seven-day intermediate gauntlet could get underway as early as the middle of the day today in Everett, sources indicate.

Two of your operatives are out here now but it looks like they both fell asleep in their cars.



Skyline Photography
User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2445 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12269 times:



Quoting Mattcawby (Reply 20):
Quoting IAD787 (Reply 18):
ZA001's seven-day intermediate gauntlet could get underway as early as the middle of the day today in Everett, sources indicate.

Two of your operatives are out here now but it looks like they both fell asleep in their cars.

LMAO! I want pics of this thing taxiing.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30989 posts, RR: 86
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12174 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting IAD787 (Reply 18):
ZA001's seven-day intermediate gauntlet could get underway as early as the middle of the day today in Everett, sources indicate.



Quoting Mattcawby (Reply 20):
Two of your operatives are out here now but it looks like they both fell asleep in their cars.

It's a beautiful sunny and warm day, so I'd rather be relaxing with a snooze then staring at a flight-line, myself.  Wink

Nice weather is suppose to hold for a bit, so now would be a good time for Boeing to "make hay while the sun shines", so to speak.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12031 times:



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 11):
Thank you NYC777 for all the great work keeping us updated. I very much appreciate it

You're quite welcome. I'm looking forward to first flight as I'm sure all of you are!



That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11923 times:



Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 12):
I'm thinking flight in about three weeks.

Oooo that would be nice, my birthdays on the longest day of the year - a happy coincidence if it happens that way! I doubt it will attend the Paris Airshow though, I reckon the most they'd get to do is a fly-by!



It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
25 Ikramerica : Or less. Friday, June 12th still seems doable. This gauntlet will take 7 days, the final will not take 8 (they've said it will be shorter). Taxi test
26 DLMD90 : If all stays on schedule, when could the airlines start to take delivery? Who will get them first?
27 Mattcawby : Yeah, but somebody has to do it for flightblogger cuz he lives 3000 miles away from Everett.
28 Ikramerica : He lives in Bermuda?
29 Stitch : All Nippon Airways is scheduled to start receiving the first planes in February 2010. JetStar is scheduled to start receiving theirs in May of 2010.
30 MCIGuy : I'm looking forward to the first hybrid livery. I wonder if any of the test planes will carry one.
31 Post contains links 757GB : The latest from Guy Norris: Countdown to first flight. Part 20 Interesting description of the Common Core System (CCS)[Edited 2009-05-29 04:34:35]
32 Post contains links Rheinbote : More on 787 systems including CCS here http://www.airwaypioneers.com/B787_Systems_and_Performance.pdf http://www.geaviationsystems.com/Abo...terature
33 757GB : Great document. Thanks for sharing!
34 Ikramerica : Yeah, it's interesting to see what has and hasn't changed since 2005.
35 Ikramerica : No news = glitch? The intermediate gauntlet was supposed to start two days ago, then yesterday, but no updates from anyone in the know...
36 Stitch : I would be inclined to think we'd be more likely to hear about the testing not starting on schedule. Scott Fancher, general manager and vice presiden
37 Rheinbote : ...and that was on May 21st, which means intermediate was then planned to start around June 4th. Anyway, I'd expect that pre-flight testing is driven
38 Akhristov : " target=_blank>http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/05/g....html Well, I guess the intermediate gauntlet did get slightly delayed, but at least they seem
39 Stitch : Arguably it's ahead of schedule, since "in about two weeks" from May 21st would have been June 4th.
40 Akhristov : Give me a break, I was just re-posting what the blog said.
41 Stitch : Have a drink on me.
42 Post contains links Rheinbote : News on progress from Aviation Week, floow the link for the details... http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest I hav
43 Post contains links Cosmofly : Randy's Journal - The gauntlet begins http://boeingblogs.com/randy/ But we will not know the progress for a few days
44 Ikramerica : What do you have against them? Seriously, it's like you are attacking Jon and NYC777 when all they are doing is trying to provide the world with accu
45 Rheinbote : It completely escapes me how you draw such a conclusion here. Both NYC777 and IAD787 are on my personal RU list, for good reason. I can imagine that
46 Post contains links Dynamicsguy : There's another new video on New Airplane showing the first engine run. Hopefully this and the previous video indicate that Boeing will use that site
47 Gregarious119 : Does anyone know if ZA002-ZA006 will have to run the same gauntlet tests that ZA001 has gone through before they each go on their respective first fli
48 EA772LR : I could imagine that possibly ZA002 may go through similar gauntlet testing because the way in which ZA001 has been built and the way ZA002-006 is bu
49 Stitch : I am under the impression that they weren't built differently and that part of the delay in finishing ZA002-ZA006 is that they waited for ZA001 to be
50 Ikramerica : Intellectual dishonesty is not becoming. You've consistently started mocking/bashing the bloggers about the 787, and the main bloggers are those two.
51 EA772LR : Oh ok, thank you Stitch. Then does that also mean since they are built the same, they can skip gauntlet testing? I would imagine this would be the ca
52 Starrion : So the gauntlet should be done by tomorrow or Friday? What is the next step after that?
53 Stitch : Final gauntlet, followed by taxi tests, followed by first flight. Since Boeing has moved some final gauntlet stuff to the intermediate stage and shif
54 Post contains links NAV20 : 'Donation' of $250 a head required for a good view...... "Aviation buffs who plan to catch the 787's first flight from the deck of the Future of Fligh
55 Ikramerica : There is another thread about this. But this thread is about Gauntlet Testing.
56 NYC777 : We should look for intermediate gauntlet testing to wrap up within 24 hours. So far everything is looking good. I think they'll start final gauntlet l
57 EA772LR : All good news It seems like once Boeing was able to create some forward momentum with the 787 program, the ball just kept rolling, and it seems that
58 NAV20 : My money's still on 10th./15th. June.......
59 Revelation : I don't think it's been about creating forward momentum, it's been about avoiding negative momentum such as dumb-ass screw-ups like not being able to
60 EA772LR : Ok we're talking semantics here...if it's avoiding negative momentum, and Boeing are achieving their goals with the program, that must be positive mo
61 Post contains links 757GB : Your blog is a nice one stop source of information, compiling info from Jon, Guy and Litz as well. http://nyc787.blogspot.com/ Thanks again!
62 NYC777 : Thanks for all the kind words. I try to keep up with the fast changing pace. Hopefully things have turned a corner. Now they gotta start crackingthese
63 Post contains links NYC777 : Check this out: http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/06/boeing-videos-of-787.html
64 EA772LR : " target=_blank>http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/06/b....html Very Cool. Thanks for the link
65 Pnwtraveler : I agree. I think the bloggers are adding a unique and very fascinating aspect of communciation that is evolving. And our bloggers here - especially th
66 Tdscanuck : Gauntlet testing isn't done to verify build...that's what factory inspections are for. Gauntlet testing is to verify design functionality. Being prop
67 EA772LR : Thank you Tom
68 Pnwtraveler : Exactly. Everything has been tested, retested and retested again, in isolation. But until everything is hooked and running together as a complete sys
69 757GB : That sums it up pretty well. Thank you both!
70 Ronaldo747 : Thank you to all the blogger out there who covers about the 787 gauntlet.It's great to see the progress and I can't wait to see it fly. Sit in with my
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
WN Could Start LGA In June With 1 Or 2 Routes posted Wed Dec 17 2008 13:24:33 by Enilria
787 Static Testing Starts Next Week! posted Fri Sep 19 2008 17:32:57 by IAD787
Air Asia X Could Start Charging By Weight! posted Thu Jul 31 2008 21:17:56 by REALDEAL
787 Barrel Testing Video posted Sat Jun 14 2008 01:03:13 by TwinOtter4Ever
787 First Flight Could Slip Even More posted Tue Sep 18 2007 22:01:07 by RedChili
FWA-LGA/JFK: Could It Happen Soon? posted Wed Aug 15 2007 06:01:33 by FWAERJ
QR To Get A343, A310(?) Very Soon posted Sat Aug 11 2007 11:44:27 by QatarA340
AB To Take Over LT A32S Fleet Very Soon? posted Thu May 17 2007 17:44:06 by A342
Start Date Soon On First AC 773? posted Thu Jan 18 2007 18:46:48 by Bmacleod
Cyqx Could Close Down Soon. posted Wed Aug 16 2006 19:09:37 by Wolsingerjet