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US Airways Flt 20 To HNL On 5/28  
User currently offlineSkyharborshome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3978 times:

Assuming aircraft had mechanical issues? Know this is not the first or second time this has happened. Take off from PHX, get over the water, come back, circle and land. Flying over 3 hours just to return to your departing airport, sit and wait and then take 6 hour flight must be a crappy way to start a vacation.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...0/history/20090528/1813Z/KPHX/PHNL

I am now delayed at HNL returning to PHX and assuming this is a contributing factor even though flight 20 was supposed to be here hours ago. Flight 23 which is supposed to leave 25 mins before my flight also for PHX does not even have a status. Keep checking online and the status is blank.

Can anyone shed any light on today's events?


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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

The US Airways website indicates a 10:11pm arrival into HNL. It is standard procedure to return to PHX for mechanical problems. Would you have preferred them to continue across the Pacific with a known mechanical issue? It may not be the ideal way to begin a vacation, but at least the passengers will live to have a vacation. It's important to keep the right perspective on things of this nature.


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User currently offlineSwivelHeadLAX From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3889 times:

When I worked for US, typically they would start the ETOPS overwater checklist and discover something wouldn't work properly (HF radio, APU, etc.) and would have to return to PHX. It happens. Once the aircraft gets back to PHX, they have to swap it to another B757 which usually means canceling a different flight. The crews also have to be swapped out, which means 2-hour call-outs for the pilots. If the new 757 is coming in from another flight, once that flight arrives in PHX, the aircraft has to be given an ETOPS check by maintenance which usually takes about an hour. Then the pilots are able to get onboard the aircraft and find something else that's wrong. I can remember one month it was pretty SOP for that to happen once or twice a week.

User currently offlineHaYnFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3837 times:



Quoting SwivelHeadLAX (Reply 2):
When I worked for US, typically they would start the ETOPS overwater checklist and discover something wouldn't work properly (HF radio, APU, etc.) and would have to return to PHX. It happens. Once the aircraft gets back to PHX, they have to swap it to another B757 which usually means canceling a different flight. The crews also have to be swapped out, which means 2-hour call-outs for the pilots. If the new 757 is coming in from another flight, once that flight arrives in PHX, the aircraft has to be given an ETOPS check by maintenance which usually takes about an hour. Then the pilots are able to get onboard the aircraft and find something else that's wrong. I can remember one month it was pretty SOP for that to happen once or twice a week.

Wow, thanks for the insight. What a logistical nightmare!



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User currently offlineSkyharborshome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

Swivel, thanks for the information. I too remember at least one post about the reoccurring issue with these flights about 2 years ago.

JMC, in no way did I suggest the return to PHX was the wrong thing to do. I am not sure how you turned a comment into me feeling sympathy for people into a suggestion that US should have continued on to HNL. Flying several times a week, the big picture is quite important to me.

The replacement plane landed around 10:15 and we are already preboarding just 25 mins later so they are attempting a quick turn. Original departure time was scheduled at 10:55. Will not be that late of a night/morning after all. The 10:30 pm left on time.



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User currently offlineAmbanmba From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vAHtfRb-ZNo/Sh-hpsgMZdI/AAAAAAAACLM/_1zG9DuPH5U/s720/101-0144_IMG.JPG

Smilarly, this was fun (photo above taken from my seat)...

On July 28, 2001, I was on NZ14 originally scheduled to fly SYD-LAX. Approximately 8 hours into the flight, the number 3 engine had to be shut down (or idled) due to a bearing issue. Initially attempted to divert to AKL but after a few hours diverted to NAN due to strong headwinds. We spent about 12-13 hours in the air and ended up in NAN.

(Photo below taken the next day as we waited for another 747 to come and pick us up). They ended up sending two planes.


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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3800 times:



Quoting Ambanmba (Reply 5):

That HAD to suck... I feel for you.



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