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User currently offlineCityofathens From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11764 times:

New routes for winter are male/MLE and sharm el sheikh/SSH 3xweek with 3-class 777 ex-LGW. End of summer 09 sees withdrawal of LGW-JFK due to poor performance in premium cabins.

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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11739 times:

From www.ba.com/press

Melt In The Maldives And Shake In Sharm
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Melt In The Maldives And Shake In Sharm
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British Airways is to launch new thrice-weekly direct services from Gatwick to both Male in the Maldives and Sharm El Sheikh in Egypt from October 25, 2009.

This will be the first time British Airways has flown to the Maldives, but will be a return for the airline’s colours to the Red Sea resort.

The routes will be operated by Boeing 777 aircraft with a three-class configuration: World Traveller, World Traveller Plus and Club World.

Richard Tams, British Airways’ head of UK & Ireland sales, said: “These new routes will be great assets to the BA network and a real winner with customers. They are both perfect holiday destinations, known for their great beaches and fantastic diving. We’re particularly pleased to be serving a completely new destination, the Maldives and returning to Sharm El Sheikh. We expect both routes to perform well.”

A wide range of good value hotels from independent properties to luxury five-star resorts in both the Maldives and Sharm El Sheikh will be available to book on ba.com giving further choice and flexibility to all holidaymakers.

Tickets will be on sale from Friday May 29, 2009 through www.ba.com and direct through BA reservations on 0844 493 0787.

Other changes to the network include the cessation of the London Gatwick to New York flight from October 25.

British Airways operates up to ten daily flights to New York and will launch the first ever London City - New York service later this year

Ends
May 29, 2009 060/AA/09

Notes to editors:
Lead-in fares from Gatwick to Male will start from £629 return including taxes, fees and charges. Flights to the Maldives will depart from Gatwick on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday at 7.10pm returning from Male on Monday, Wednesday and Saturday at 1.20pm local time.
Lead-in fares from Gatwick to Sharm El Sheikh will start from £339 return including taxes, fees and charges. Flights to Sharm El Sheikh will depart from Gatwick on Monday, Thursday and Saturday at 10pm returning on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday at 11am local time.
British Airways last served Sharm El Sheikh through its franchise operator GB Airways, which was sold in March 2008.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24912 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11704 times:



Quoting Cityofathens (Thread starter):
End of summer 09 sees withdrawal of LGW-JFK due to poor performance in premium cabins.

That was quick...



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User currently offlineClubWorld1986 From United Kingdom, joined May 2009, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11648 times:

Male' should do well...

Is it a direct flight do you know?

Is there any flights direct to maldives from the UK? this route has the potential in being very successful I think.


User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2486 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11623 times:

This is a great news indeed... There were a lot of rumours about Male... but I did not expect SSH with 777s...


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User currently offlineScrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11561 times:

Yes Male will be a direct flight.... both new destinations will be on the 3 class 777.... The cancelled JFK will release a 4 class 777, in order for the extra 3 class 777 at LGW (hope that makes sense)

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24912 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11548 times:



Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 4):
but I did not expect SSH with 777s...

Indeed. I would have thought an Airbus may have done it.

I suppose if Monarch can fill A300s and A330s from LGW to SSH, BA may as well give it a go with a 777  Wink

I do wonder whether SSH will be year round or just a winter seasonal route.



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User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1776 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11550 times:



Quoting ClubWorld1986 (Reply 3):
Is there any flights direct to maldives from the UK?

I believe UL used to fly direct twice a week from LHR with the flight continuing onto CMB but Im not too sure if the route still operates.

I think this route will be a right money spinner because the EK flights between DXB and MLE are always full and the only other way of getting there direct is by charter carriers.


I dont know if the SSH flights will do to well in Club but Im pretty certain that it will be busy in economy and WTP
The fact that BA have recently started to sell packages could lead to some really good flight + hotel deals, especially since BA have a good working relationship with One and Only who have a fantastic hotel out there



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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2486 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11513 times:



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 7):
I dont know if the SSH flights will do to well in Club but Im pretty certain that it will be busy in economy and WTP
The fact that BA have recently started to sell packages could lead to some really good flight + hotel deals, especially since BA have a good working relationship with One and Only who have a fantastic hotel out there

I have read somewhere that VS results help up thanks to the touristic routes. That might be the reason behind the launch of PJU, MLE, SSH and MBJ for winter 2009.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
Indeed. I would have thought an Airbus may have done it.

Who would pay the whole CLUB fare to SSH?!

But it is a generally good move from BA. It is time they gave EK a good run for their money...



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User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11514 times:

Monarch Airlines - Male to Manchester and London Gatwick
Sri Lankan Airlines - Colombo via Male to London Heathrow
Thomsonfly - Manchester and London Gatwick

Unsure however if the UK based services are schedules or charters, so the British Airways flight may be the only scheduled service operating to Male originating in the United Kingdom.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8286 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11500 times:
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User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1776 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11463 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 10):
Vegas baby, Las Vegas will be a great addition to BA's route system in the western United States.

That route also starts in 2009



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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11441 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
I suppose if Monarch can fill A300s and A330s from LGW to SSH, BA may as well give it a go with a 777

Thomas Cook also have a weekly A330 flight and Thomson offer daily 767-300s throughout the Summer, so it's a high capacity route.

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 8):
Who would pay the whole CLUB fare to SSH?!



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 7):
I dont know if the SSH flights will do to well in Club

I do. Sharm el Sheikh is a large resort with plenty of luxury hotels, yet there is currently very little option but to travel on charter flights or easyJet. In all of the flights from the UK to Sharm, BA will be the only carrier offering any form of premium product. WTP will probably do very well, but I can see there being a demand for Club aswell.

In MLE, SSH and PUJ, BA are clearly going for existing charter markets where there is a demand for premium travel.


User currently offlineClubWorld1986 From United Kingdom, joined May 2009, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11427 times:



Quoting Richardw (Reply 1):
The routes will be operated by Boeing 777 aircraft with a three-class configuration: World Traveller, World Traveller Plus and Club World.

Male' could have sustained FIRST, couldn't it? it is a honymoon destination after all. I supose it pay's to be cautious at the moment, but I think BA might have missed a trick here... IMHO


User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11418 times:



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 7):
The fact that BA have recently started to sell packages

Recently? BA have sold packages for over 20 years!


User currently offlineBananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1574 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11379 times:

Just checked Jan for the SSH route to see what sort of pricing would be shown for Club.

Outbound - Saturday 16 Jan, 2010
22:00
16 Jan 05:00
17 Jan Gatwick (London) Sharm El Sheikh Intl BA2055
British Airways Club World
£ 5,100.40
Currency calculator
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Inbound - Sunday 24 Jan, 2010
11:00
24 Jan 14:25
24 Jan Sharm El Sheikh Intl Gatwick (London) BA2054
British Airways Club World


£2550pp return for Club seems on the high side to me, particularly if they want to encourage buy-ups from WT+ and WT. However, as previously mentioned, there are many luxury resorts in the area. I just wonder if they have set their fare too high.

Time will tell....

Mark



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User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 834 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11341 times:



Quoting ClubWorld1986 (Reply 13):
Male' could have sustained FIRST, couldn't it? it is a honymoon destination after all. I supose it pay's to be cautious at the moment, but I think BA might have missed a trick here... IMHO

If MRU lost F then MLE is unlikely to get it as there is a lot more money going to MRU.

good news for the BA crews are with the SSH timings it must be a trip as the turnaround is far too long for it to be a 'there and back' roster pattern unlike all those poor charter air hosties / hostesses.



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User currently offlineClubWorld1986 From United Kingdom, joined May 2009, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11270 times:



Quoting APYu (Reply 16):
If MRU lost F then MLE is unlikely to get it as there is a lot more money going to MRU.

Good point.
Though I think if BA are planing on pinching some of Emirates passengers on this route they should have trialed the 4 class. Emairates offer a First Class service on Both segments LHR-DXB and DXB-MLE (well they did when I flew that route in Feb 08')


User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2182 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11140 times:



Quoting Bananaboy (Reply 15):
£2550pp return for Club seems on the high side to me, particularly if they want to encourage buy-ups from WT+ and WT. However, as previously mentioned, there are many luxury resorts in the area. I just wonder if they have set their fare too high.

Fares aren't loaded yet. You'll have to wait a bit to see the real ones (ie. non-IATA pricing).


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11122 times:

Excellent news. Glad to see BA expanding again. Too bad it didn't really happen during my tenure there but also glad to see that BA is finally not laying down while LH and AF snap up good routes.

LH423



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17053 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11079 times:

Really happy to see two new routes on BA's map! But really pity that they are going to cease to operate the LGW-JFK service.


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User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 834 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11083 times:



Quoting ClubWorld1986 (Reply 17):
Though I think if BA are planing on pinching some of Emirates passengers on this route they should have trialed the 4 class. Emairates offer a First Class service on Both segments LHR-DXB and DXB-MLE (well they did when I flew that route in Feb 08')

The fact that it is direct is probably the selling point though. Given direct in J or one stop in F I know which one I'd pick.

This is really good news and a route Id like to try. I wonder if a two day MLE hop might be on my agenda for November as I need some tier points



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4755 posts, RR: 43
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10755 times:

Isnt the B 772 too big of an aircraft to be used on 3 weekly LGW SSH flights in particular?

Wouldnt a 3 weekly A 321 been better? Or is the demand that high?

In the IATA 2007-08 season (Oct-March), 11,000 pax flew from LON to SSH compared to 32,500 to MLE.

From LON to MLE during that time, 17,500 pax flew on UL, 10,000 on EK and 4500 on QR.

And I have just seen on the GDS, if BA can get a SPA with EK and UL on the MLE-CMB-MLE route, they can get some decent traffic bound to CMB from LON on their LGW MLE LGW flights as the connections especially with UL on the MLE-CMB-MLE route are very good i.e. 5 hours inbound (CMB-MLE-LGW on UL-BA) and 3 hours outbound. (LGW-MLE-CMB on BA-UL).

[Edited 2009-05-29 09:31:01]

User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1651 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10693 times:

Great that BA is restarting SSH, and using the 777 too! I hope they have cheap fares because there are a few people in SSH who don't like having to transit through CAI to go to Europe. I hope the entry of BA on the market pushes overall prices down.

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10642 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 22):
Isnt the B 772 too big of an aircraft to be used on 3 weekly LGW SSH flights in particular?

As I've said, Thomson already send daily 328 seat 767-300s, Monarch have four weekly 360 seat A300/A330s (plus two weekly 757s), and Thomas Cook send an A330-200 as well as three 757-200s every week from Gatwick this Summer. Widebodies already serve the route, there's no reason why BA shouldn't use a 777.

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 22):
In the IATA 2007-08 season (Oct-March), 11,000 pax flew from LON to SSH

Egypt has become much more popular for British tourists since last March. I'd be interested to see similar figures for the 2008-09 season, but can almost guarantee they will be up.


25 Behramjee : Those figures I gave you LON to SSH are of IATA scheduled carriers and do not include charter airlines such as Thomson, Monarch and others. 328 seats
26 HeeBeeGB : No choice but to operate B777, LGW doesn't have A321, SSH isn't an LHR route and operating one A321 route from LGW would never worl.
27 Viscount724 : I would consider a 5 hour connection very poor. There must be much faster routings between CMB and LON than that.
28 COEI2007 : Leaves at 22.00 at night, and sits on the ground in SSH from 5am until 11??? Strange!
29 HeeBeeGB : Nope, the crew will have "downtime" in SSH allowing them to operate there and back rather than paying for crew to stay in hotels and pay expenses for
30 HeeBeeGB : and JFK was always full (often oversold) in M, W and J very few pax and F virtually empty everyday so lots of PFUG (pre flight upgrades) and with the
31 HeeBeeGB : Special upgrade rates will be offered like other routes from LGW currently are, and with a 10pm departure and overnight flight I think the promotiona
32 Gkirk : And TOM/MON/TCX will beat them by miles for service
33 CityofAthens : That sounds probable but where did you get the above info from? Of course it depends on the agreements in place with BA LGW crew. BA LHR crew operate
34 BA777ER236 : I don't know where you get this from but I guarantee that we wont be doing that! There is no such thing as 'downtime' in the industrial agreement for
35 Sketty222 : Yes they have but the "deposit only" package is now non existent at BA! BA now use a system similar to the likes of the one that expedia useand its c
36 FCAFLYBOY : Ha ha ha, what planet are you on?! It does still operate direct, now on the inbound also. The service is very popular and BA will really have this an
37 Rutankrd : FCAFLYBOY The Air Lanka Male service connection opportunities are virtually non- existent -This LHR offer more connections myth must end! Lands Heathr
38 Gayrugbyman : I reckon they'll give MAN-LCY a go now VG have left the route.
39 Pe@rson : I flew UL LHR-MLE-CMB (and onwards to SIN). A decent number of people disembarked in MLE.
40 FCAFLYBOY : Of course there is, UL also fly direct LHR CMB I believe upto twice daily from LHR.The MLE-CMB tag-on is, I believe, just to get the a/c back to CMB
41 VV701 : The discussion as to whether LGW-SSH should be an A320, A321, 763 or 772 approaches the issue from a single direction, which aircraft the a-netter thi
42 Sketty222 : That is true and I agree with what your saying but BA are to looking to reduce the winter schedule even more and if the slot protection at LHR gets t
43 Rutankrd : Right a few facts . When the four 772 aircraft are delivered and enter service - Long Haul will have gained just ONE extra frame over the level and th
44 VV701 : Is this correct? What are your sources? Here is what the BA Press Release announcing the order said: "British Airways has taken the first step toward
45 Babybus : I think these will be winners all round. Tour operators should venture into using BA as many punters are getting fed up of being cramped in a charter
46 BALHRWWCC : I agree infact it wouldn't suprise me if the likes of Kuoni start selling the BA MLE flight in there next brochure. SSH on a 777 is a good idea. Ther
47 APYu : If its an AVOD aircraft!
48 BAW217 : All LGW based 3 Class 777's have the New Club World seat and AVOD. Cheers
49 AIR MALTA : I have heard that there will also be some changes to the shorthaul programme with TUN going to 10 times weekly. Is this true? Any other updates? Are B
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