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Delta To Offer Free Booze Transatlantic In June?  
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21261 times:

I've been told that starting tomorrow (June 1) Delta will begin offering free wine and beer in economy on transatlantic flights. Can anyone confirm?

If this is true, Delta will be the only American legacy to offer this service.


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User currently offlineChootie From Germany, joined May 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21240 times:

WOW!!! I never really understood why they started charging in the first place. Granted, alot of folks do not drink alcohol on board, but those who do i.e French, Spanish, Italian, etc... where a glass of wine with the meal is customary, why not. If it is true, I hope all the rest follow the example.


chootie
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21214 times:



Quoting Chootie (Reply 1):
where a glass of wine with the meal is customary, why not.

Delta has not charged for wine/beer with the meal for a couple of years now - they only charged outside of the meal window.

NW has not charged for alcohol over the Atlantic due to the KLM alliance. They had charged over the Pacific though.


User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3105 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21216 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Thread starter):
I've been told that starting tomorrow (June 1) Delta will begin offering free wine and beer in economy on transatlantic flights. Can anyone confirm?

If this is true, Delta will be the only American legacy to offer this service.

June 1st is when the DL/NW products across the Atlantic are supposed to be standardized, if I remember correctly. Thus, if DL were to keep NW's policy of complimentary drinks across the Atlantic, this would be true.


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21219 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
Delta has not charged for wine/beer with the meal for a couple of years now - they only charged outside of the meal window.

Yes, but that was one drink.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineChootie From Germany, joined May 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21192 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
Delta has not charged for wine/beer with the meal for a couple of years now - they only charged outside of the meal window.

NW has not charged for alcohol over the Atlantic due to the KLM alliance. They had charged over the Pacific though.

Pardon me. I had the foolish assumption that all US carriers were charging for alcohol. Tks for the info  blush 



chootie
User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21128 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
Delta has not charged for wine/beer with the meal for a couple of years now - they only charged outside of the meal window.

Well throughout all of the 1990's the "old" DL didn't charge for alcohol in economy... of course that was before the financial downturn... and I think might be true for the other US legacy carriers as well...

Personally I was never able to understand all the hype about carriers charging for alcohol... it was standard in the "good old days" throughout the 60's 70's and 80's those times (rightfully) praised by everyone... but almost every carrier charged for alcoholic beverages in coach at the time... And personally I think that someone who'd like to enjoy a glass or two of wine or champagne wouldn't mind paying for it. Those who think of planes as flying bars however do...

People seem to forget that most carriers stopped charging for alcohol internationally as late as the early 90's... and only discontinued it because they were desperate for money during the financial downturn after 9/11... it's not that US airlines NEVER served alcohol free of charge...

Anyhow good for DL if they can afford starting to serve free alcohol... as obviously it's a big deal for a majority of passengers...

Best regards

L1011Lover


User currently offlineDL747400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 20959 times:

This is also another step toward the ultimate goad of offering a consistent economy product as part of the DL/AF/KL transatlantic joint venture. More changes (enhancements) are coming.

User currently offlineBa97 From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 20862 times:

AC does not charge for drinks on international (ie non USA/non Caribbean), which I bet most Canadians expect as a standard so I find this all interesting with people's comments on expectations of paying or not. BA does not charge across the Atlantic and I would find it odd if they did. I gather consumption in general has dropped over the years, but this may be my observations as a passenger and the fact I almost never drink as the impact on landing is not worth the drink. I am not against drinking, the headache or dead feeling has too much impact on the work I have to do when I land. Does anyone know if the volumes are down and thus not charging is more symbolic than a real cost to the bottom line?


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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3213 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 20786 times:

Well I believe United doesn't charge to Australia(and from what I hear the rest of the pacific) but does across the atlantic (go figure?)... so I guess they had the opposite of NW's policy. Makes sense though, the prices were higher over the pacific and the competition was at a higher standard.

This one would win big brownie points with me. This is something a full service carrier should be doing on long haul.... even if it was only very cheap wine and beer, they should be doing something.


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 20693 times:

There are more changes (positive) coming to TATL Y pax on Delta/NW.


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5276 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 20639 times:



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 9):
Well I believe United doesn't charge to Australia(and from what I hear the rest of the pacific) but does across the atlantic (go figure?)... so I guess they had the opposite of NW's policy. Makes sense though, the prices were higher over the pacific and the competition was at a higher standard.

I'm not sure about Australia but AFAIK, UA now charges for alcoholic beverages on all flights. As I recall, UA initially began charging in Y only on Transpac flights while offering free alcohol on TATL flights. They then standardized and began charging on TATL as well.

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 11):
There are more changes (positive) coming to TATL Y pax on Delta/NW.

Excellent news. Are you able to tell us when these enhancements should be announced?



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User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 20181 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Thread starter):
I've been told that starting tomorrow (June 1) Delta will begin offering free wine and beer in economy on transatlantic flights. Can anyone confirm?

When I flew Delta from TXL to JFK, we had a free bottle of wine in economy with the meal. Other drinks were charged. There was no free wine from JFK-TXL. We also got goodie bags both ways (sacks with toothpaste, eyeshades, lotion, etc.). From TXL, the F/A's distributed free newspapers before departure (USAToday, Berliner Morgenpost, Financial Times). There were no newspapers eastbound.

Sometimes what you get inflight depends on the city you leave from. In some cities the catering is better than others. Plus, TXL-JFK is daylight the whole way and about an hour longer than JFK-TXL, so there is more catering and services offered.

Part of the reason for doing this is codesharing (as UA found out when they tried to downgrade their service). Airlines such as Air France do not look kindly to skimping service on flights they are codeshareing on and selling as their own.


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4018 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 20155 times:
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Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
There are more changes (positive) coming to TATL Y pax on Delta/NW.

DL has improved/enhanced their cabin service a great deal since pre-bankruptcy and post. It's impressive. It's nice they offer amentity kits in Y with more than just eyeshades or socks. They really want their customers to enjoy their experience.

Will they be upgrading/enhancing the catering? That would be really nice to see since DL offered the best Y cabin product for many years before all the financial turmoil they had. I feel their offerings exceed those of UA & AA by a long shot!


User currently offlineToltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3292 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 20059 times:



Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 6):
it was standard in the "good old days" throughout the 60's 70's and 80's those times (rightfully) praised by everyone

You mean when people wore suits and dresses instead of flipflops and tank tops to fly across the ocean? Times have changed.

Booze and altitude seem to make people stupid. Restricting the temptation by charging for it makes sense these days. I like that DL follows the european style of offering a drink at meal time.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 19946 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
NW has not charged for alcohol over the Atlantic due to the KLM alliance. They had charged over the Pacific though.

That was just recent... until recently NW offered free Alcohol on all TPAC/TATL flights.



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User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 19442 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 11):
I'm not sure about Australia but AFAIK, UA now charges for alcoholic beverages on all flights. As I recall, UA initially began charging in Y only on Transpac flights while offering free alcohol on TATL flights. They then standardized and began charging on TATL as well.

Vice versa.


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 19279 times:
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Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
NW has not charged for alcohol over the Atlantic due to the KLM alliance.

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User currently offlineN808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 19246 times:

From what i heard from a F/A beer and wine are free the whole flight.... but other than the one drink with your meal if you want more hard liquor drinks you'll have to pay for them.


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User currently offlineTomFoolery From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 18786 times:



Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 6):
Personally I was never able to understand all the hype about carriers charging for alcohol... it was standard in the "good old days" throughout the 60's 70's and 80's those times (rightfully) praised by everyone... but almost every carrier charged for alcoholic beverages in coach at the time... And personally I think that someone who'd like to enjoy a glass or two of wine or champagne wouldn't mind paying for it. Those who think of planes as flying bars however do...

With few exceptions, all beverages (sodas, juice, liquor, coffee, beer, wine, etc.) were complimentry on international Y up until 1999-2000 on US carriers. I believe US was the first to start charging for alcohol.

Very few International charge for booze today. NW included on TATL. I flew NW a few months ago, and all was free on TATL.

And yes L1011 lover, I do mind paying for drinks.

Way to go DL!



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 18595 times:

I think a majority of people outside the US expect a sensible amount of complimentary alcohol on long haul flights, and certainly as the majority of non US airlines offer this, the absence can only disadvantage those US carriers that don't offer it.

Flying in Y is painful enough without these little pleasures, and the fiddling around for change is both annoying and seriously holds up cabin service.



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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2179 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 18176 times:



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
June 1st is when the DL/NW products across the Atlantic are supposed to be standardized, if I remember correctly. Thus, if DL were to keep NW's policy of complimentary drinks across the Atlantic, this would be true.

Well, they are in a joint venture with AF-KL, so, at some point, if service levels are too heterogeneous among the airlines, it is going to cause a problem.



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7616 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17757 times:

In 21 posts, no one has directly answered the OP's question. Everyone seems to just be saliavating over the idea. Can anyone confirm if DL will be offering complementary drinks on Transatlantic flights outside of mealtime?


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User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17709 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
Delta has not charged for wine/beer with the meal for a couple of years now - they only charged outside of the meal window.

One drink was what was being offered. Which is more than others were giving away.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
June 1st is when the DL/NW products across the Atlantic are supposed to be standardized, if I remember correctly. Thus, if DL were to keep NW's policy of complimentary drinks across the Atlantic, this would be true.

Did NW give free alcohol in Y? I thought it was pay.

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 6):
but almost every carrier charged for alcoholic beverages in coach at the time...

But domestic only, international was still free into the 90s.

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 13):
t's nice they offer amentity kits in Y with more than just eyeshades or socks

That would be the NW kit I just got in J. It was : socks, eye shades, chap stick. That was it. I hope DL has a better kit.

Dave



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User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17667 times:



Quoting Eghansen (Reply 12):
There was no free wine from JFK-TXL.

What time did this flight leave? was there a dinner/lunch service? If not that would seem to be why.



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25 Av8rDAL : Hopefully there is someone among us who can comment on the matter once DL's westbound TATL flights begin arriving in a couple of hours...
26 MCOAviationFan : DL will offer complimentary beer and wine in Y class at all times on all intercontinental flights starting June 1. Cocktails will still be charged $7
27 L1011Lover : That's not correct... US and many international carriers charged for alcoholic beverages on international flights in coach during the 70's and 80's.
28 TomFoolery : Let's not forget that widespread international service by nearly every major US carrier didn't get underway until the early to mid 90's. Sure, there
29 L1011Lover : absolutely... that's a point... DL, AA and NW however already had European services beside PA and TW which at the time were still the major US carrie
30 AA767400 : I find that only alcoholics mind paying for drinks. If you can't live without alcohol for any length of time, then you might want to consider that yo
31 LAXdude1023 : Cool, thanks for that bro.
32 Iaflyer : from Delta Delta introduces combined international products on all flights June 1, 2009 In another merger milestone, customers traveling on Delta- and
33 Evan767 : Does any other US legacy offer a hot breakfast in coach TATL? This is another service that sets Delta apart.
34 RwSEA : I sure hope what they're offering going forward is better than what the recently offered on JFK-FCO. "Breakfast" consisted of a bagel and banana. Tha
35 CokePopper : I agree that our customers should know what is being offered, however, I personally hope they don't bring back the menus. Waste of paper. What they s
36 MKEdude : This press release mentions nothing about TATL routes, instead it seems to indicate that Beer and Wine will be complimentary on all international rou
37 AA767400 : It's not a nice touch when you are towards the back of the aircraft, and they have run out of your preferred choice. That is why it was a good idea t
38 Runway23 : Bear in mind NW's breakfast on transatlantic's was a small hot omelette bun (pretty revolting and not at all filling). "Hot" breakfast could therefor
39 CokePopper : I imagine the "new" hot breakfast will be what we serve on ULH flights. A hot breakfast pita sandwich. Consisting of scrambled eggs and Zucchini in a
40 DeltaL1011man : Or once they get PTVs on the 763s (yes they are coming. once the econ gets better look for the news on them.....read the Delta blog) then just put th
41 TomFoolery : Wow! What an insightful conclusion. If I say anything against your claim, that puts me into denIal, further demonstrating that I am an alcoholic, so
42 Evan767 : I believe NW offered free drinks TATL to match KLM, but not TPAC. Now that NW and DL have combined, I don't think there are any other US majors who o
43 Viscount724 : I think that's a waste of money and not environmentally-friendly. It's just as easy (and cheaper) for the flight attendant to ask "Do you want the ch
44 L410Turbolet : Amenity kit in economy... How long ago was that? Call me old fashioned, but I loved paper menus. They were also a great collectible and one didn't ha
45 NYC-AIR : Haha. I just did the same flight on CO, well . . EWR-FCO to be exact. CO served a similar dinner + a very small pastry (supposed to be a croissant bu
46 Eghansen : I think it is cultural. When I eat in restaurants in Europe I never see adults drinking soft drinks. Ice tea is simply unavailable. Sometimes even ch
47 Viscount724 : That may be your experience. It's not mine. After living in Europe for 13 years, I very often see people (and not just children) drinking soft drinks
48 Letsgetwet : IMHO when the flying public gets $400 r/t to Europe,and are asked to pay $5 for a alcaholic beverage, they are still getting one hell of a bargain. If
49 Post contains links Eghansen : Maybe some places iced tea is available. I have not been able to find iced tea in France, Spain and Italy. As for soft drinks, they are available, bu
50 Abrelosojos : = United charges for alcohol on flights to/from Australia in Y cabin. Saludos, A.
51 LACA773 : This will be nice instead of some frozen muffin and banana (this is something BA does and always will even on their West Coast to LHR flights. I alwa
52 AirNZ : There is nothing cultural about it in the sense which you are referring to it. Sorry, but to claim you never see adults drinking soft drinks in resta
53 TomFoolery : Don't forget that alot of business travellers have to fly in the back when we cross the oceans. Depending on the flexibility that you demand, the far
54 Sxf24 : BA offers warm pastries in Club on West Coast to LHR flights. At least I always get a nice bacon roll when I fly SEA-LHR...
55 TomFoolery : It really depends where you go. I would offer my left arm at times for a nice cold glass of fresh brewed Iced Tea. Not the crap that is mass produced
56 Cgnnrw : Excellent. Couldn't agree more. Thanks for standing up for those econ pax who aren't travelling on the "cheap" fares. In my opinion DL and the rest o
57 L410Turbolet : Not necessarily. The truth is that for example in my country soft drinks are often more expensive than beer, in grocery stores and especially in rest
58 Davescj : Just flew DL/NW 821 (FCO -- ATL, operated by NW A330). Biz elite menu, linens, food and wines. Wines were much better than I last had on NW AMS -MEM
59 Eghansen : Sorry if you misunderstood. The statement that "soft drinks are viewed as being for children, not adults" was meant to apply to Europe, not the US. I
60 Letsgetwet : Ok, if you can afford to pay $600 more for your ticket, just to skip a Saturday night stay,...then you can afford to pay $5 for a beer and buy your o
61 TomFoolery : Huh? Isn't it enough that I paid $600 extra for a flight that fits my schedule? Or is this some penalty for sharing the same class of service as budg
62 Letsgetwet : It's not a penalty to pay for a cocktail and a paper. Why should the airline have to eat the cost?. Would you like the flight attendant to check chec
63 Hush-kit : I flew BRU-JFK recently on DL, and we were delayed by about 2-3 hrs, right after take-off the F/A announced "one free beer or wine on the house due to
64 USAirALB : Nope, US offered free booze with a meal until 9/11.
65 AirNZ : Why do I need to remember it, or what is the significance that you feel I should? It's their choice, but are you suggesting they should be advertised
66 Burnsie28 : BS, it has socks, pen, folding comb, earplugs, eye shades, chap stick, toothbrush, and toothpaste... i have a few of the kits. NW had it before, thei
67 MasseyBrown : Rent-a-name premixed drinks are just a cover for using cheap ingredients. The complete press release mentioned that the business class menu would be
68 Evan767 : Doug Parker, get off this website.
69 LeftWing : ... .LCC's will rule the world...once the guilt of spending money is over the corps will be back to flying biz jets... Corp Business Jets Low Cost Ca
70 OA412 : You misinterpreted the press release. Those are the Michelle Bernstein selections for June. There are 3 additional main course choices on each flight
71 Post contains links OA412 : Here's a link to DL's official press release: http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=732
72 BalZ18 : Question... Will they be carding?
73 Flying Belgian : Sorry but it's a bit confused. Can someone update me with the free/charged alcohol rules on the US majors in their economy class ? AA ? CO ? UA ? DL/N
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