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G-YMMR B772ER Arrives At Home Base  
User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2960 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12621 times:
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BA have received the first of the four new B772ER aircraft at Homebase just minutes ago.

Finals EGLL 09 15:07:30 Hex code 405BFB BAW9158 B772 G-YMMR British Airways

G-YMMS is in Cardiff.

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User currently offlineMascmo From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12622 times:

Do they have GE's or RR engines? What route will they fly?

User currently offlineAlevik From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 949 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12555 times:
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I think it is G-YMMS not G-YMMR that is the latest just delivered 772? Is the thread title referring to another 772?


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User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 998 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12515 times:



Quoting Mascmo (Reply 1):

Do they have GE's or RR engines? What route will they fly?

RR engines. As for routes, I reckon they'll be plying most of the BA 777 routes ex-LHR.


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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2960 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12402 times:
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Alevik The title says is correct G-YMMR was delivered direct to BA maintenance facility in Cardiff on the 24th March and has been having the accommodation completed.
Today it has at last arrived at HQ ready to enter revenue service.

G-YMMS is in Cardiff going through the same fitout process for the next several weeks.

Mascmo
These are RR Trent powered and will go on the longer BA routes such as South America Sydney and Tokyo plus Denver and Phoenix.
Washington, Toronto and Atlanta also frequently see these


User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12300 times:

Maybe I will fly her to NBO in July


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User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12230 times:

Will they have the new First seats, and will the seats in WTP and WT differ from what's currently on offer?


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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12143 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 4):
These are RR Trent powered and will go on the longer BA routes such as South America Sydney and Tokyo plus Denver and Phoenix.
Washington, Toronto and Atlanta also frequently see these

Well YMMR is a 3-class aircraft so only Denver out of the destinations you mentioned will see it on a regular basis.

Quoting EISHN (Reply 6):
Will they have the new First seats,

They won't have any First seats.


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11959 times:

The destinations that will see these new aircraft are those that do no offer First class out of LHR.

These include, but not limited to:

-Montréal
-Denver
-Hong Kong (BA0027/BA0028)
-Chennai
-Hyderbad
-Delhi (at least on BA0257 on Sat 11 July)
-Mauritius
-Rio de Janeiro

LH423



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User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 11559 times:



Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 7):
They won't have any First seats.

- what about other BA RR 772s? I remember, 5 or 6 first ones were different from the others, but not sure which had what configuration. Some of them had crew rest seat - were these those with F cabin? AFAIK, GE-powered ones all have F cabin with no crew rest area.


User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11399 times:



Quoting LH423 (Reply 8):
The destinations that will see these new aircraft are those that do no offer First class out of LHR.

These include, but not limited to:

-Montréal
-Denver
-Hong Kong (BA0027/BA0028)
-Chennai
-Hyderbad
-Delhi (at least on BA0257 on Sat 11 July)
-Mauritius
-Rio de Janeiro

LH423

For Winter 09/10 the 3 class registered G-YMMA-F/R-U will also operate

Accra ( currently operated using a 767)
Nairobi
Las Vegas
MLE ( One of the LHR based 777's will be moved to LGW as crew rest accomadation will be required for this route due to the flight time)
SSH ( On days when MLE flights don't operate the a/c will operate the SSH)

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 7):
Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 4):
These are RR Trent powered and will go on the longer BA routes such as South America Sydney and Tokyo plus Denver and Phoenix.
Washington, Toronto and Atlanta also frequently see these

Well YMMR is a 3-class aircraft so only Denver out of the destinations you mentioned will see it on a regular basis.

DEN isn't the only route he got right. He is partly right with South America as GIG is operated using a 3 class 777 (GRU/EZE are served by a 747). Also after having a look at the timetable for the week head he was also right with

YYZ - (BA093/092) is operated by a 3 class 777 on days 1,4,5 and 7.
IAD - (BA265/264) operates on days 4 & 7 (BA293/292) operates days 3,5 &7 with a 3 class aircraft

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 5):
Maybe I will fly her to NBO in July

I very much doubt it. Flights in summer to NBO are operted using a 4 class 777 and in winter using a 3 class 777.


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11343 times:



Quoting RIX (Reply 9):
AFAIK, GE-powered ones all have F cabin with no crew rest area.

Apart from VIIO/P/R/T which are 3-class configured aircraft operating from Gatwick.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7390 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11334 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 4):
G-YMMR was delivered direct to BA maintenance facility in Cardiff on the 24th March and has been having the accommodation completed.
Today it has at last arrived at HQ ready to enter revenue service.

G-YMMS is in Cardiff going through the same fitout process for the next several weeks.

And G-YMMT, the third of the four new 772s, is currently on the Boeing flight line at PAE being prepared for its first flight.


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11283 times:

Thanks, Planesarecool. And from BALHRWWCC's post I understand, all but G-YMMA-F/R-U RR-powered are 4 class (with crew rest area, unlike GE-powered ones with First).

User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11232 times:



Quoting RIX (Reply 9):
- what about other BA RR 772s? I remember, 5 or 6 first ones were different from the others, but not sure which had what configuration. Some of them had crew rest seat - were these those with F cabin?

The RR powered 777's are G-YMMA-S with T and U joining the fleet shortly. When delivered G-YMMA-P were configured in a the then standard F/J/Y configuration. If I remeber rightly there was 14F/55J and if I remember rightly 195Y seats back then. After delivery and a short time operating ex LHR G-YMMA-F where transfered to LGW so some 747's could be moved back to LHR. The RR powered LGW 777's mostly operated to SAN, PHX, EZE, GRU, GIG, LUN, HRE and not forgetting the weekly direct MRU (The LGW/NBO/MRU was operated by a 747).

After 9/11 BA decided to transfer a large number of routes back to LHR. This saw the RR 777's return to LHR between 2002 and 2003. When delivered G-YMMA-F were fitted with what was called a lower lobe crew rest area. The later aicraft were fitted with the current OHAR crew rest area. In 2004 or possibly 2005 BA introduced WTP to the fleet it was decided that when G-YMMA-F were sent to CWL to have the new seats fitted that they would remove the first class cabin and standardise the rest area to a OHAR rest area. G-YMMG - P retained their first cabin.

Quoting RIX (Reply 13):
Thanks, Planesarecool. And from BALHRWWCC's post I understand, all but G-YMMA-F/R-U RR-powered are 4 class (with crew rest area, unlike GE-powered ones with First).



Quoting RIX (Reply 9):
AFAIK, GE-powered ones all have F cabin with no crew rest area.

You are right that they don't have a crew rest area. However they are not all fitted with a F cabin. G-VIIO/P/R/T all based at LGW are confugured 40J/24W/214M.

The remaining GE powered 777's are configured.

G-ZZZA-C 17F/48J/24W/127M
G-VIIA-N/S/U-Y 14F/48J/40W/124M


User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11113 times:

MMR is off to Chennai later today for those interested!


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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11051 times:

Anyone know what type of mods "MMR" received at Cardiff?


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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7390 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10982 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 16):
Anyone know what type of mods "MMR" received at Cardiff?

The new 772s are going to CWL to be fitted with the new second generation BA Club World lie-flat seats and a crew overhead rest area.


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10833 times:

Thanks, BALHRWWCC. Just one thing: "In 2004 or possibly 2005 BA introduced WTP to the fleet..." - my first flight in WTP on 777 (actually, I've flown only two times on BA 777s, both in WTP) was on Dec 1 2002, on G-VIIS, LHR-EWR. So, I think, you mean to the fleet of RR-powered 777s, not just 777s, correct? Thanks again!

User currently offlineTigerotor77W From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10631 times:

Was there a specific reason that BA went back to RR? Were they disatisified with the GEs?

User currently offline_AA_777_MAN From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10293 times:

Does anyone know when the 773ERs are scheduled to be delivered? What routes will they fly?

User currently offlineMascmo From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10029 times:

I would like to know what planes do the SEA to LHR route. I will be flying that in the next few months. Are they 3 or 4 class? RR or GE?

User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9962 times:



Quoting RIX (Reply 18):
Just one thing: "In 2004 or possibly 2005 BA introduced WTP to the fleet..." - my first flight in WTP on 777 (actually, I've flown only two times on BA 777s, both in WTP) was on Dec 1 2002, on G-VIIS, LHR-EWR. So, I think, you mean to the fleet of RR-powered 777s, not just 777s, correct? Thanks again!

You are probably right about the date. BA added WTP and the CW flat beds to their LHR based 747's and 777 before the LGW based aircraft and I remember the whole thing took about 3 years to complete. In answer to your question no I didn't mean the RR - powered 777's. I meant the LGW based 777's.

Quoting Tigerotor77W (Reply 19):
Was there a specific reason that BA went back to RR? Were they disatisified with the GEs?

BA was the launch customer for the 772ER placing it's order back in June of 1991. When BA placed it's initial order they didn't have any practical data about which engines would perform best on the ER frame. At the time the chief exec was Bob Ayling knowing what he was like he probably decided if they where gonna buy a new long range twin engined airliner they should buy the biggest engine for it. Alot of it I would like to think was doen to GE probably offering BA a better deal at the time.

When BA placed the second 777 order in 1998 for what would be the G-YMM registered aircraft they knew they were gonna use these aircraft on flights with flight times longer than those already being operated by the GE powered 777's . These flights where planned to be to the likes of KUL/BKK/EZE and GIG. BA decided to re evaluated the RR and GE engines and decided to go for the RR engines one of the reason was the fact that a RR powered 777 weighed up to 3.6 tonnes less than General Electric powered version. Which would mean the aircraft would be slightly more fuel efficent.

Interestingly BA's 773ER's on order will come with GE engines .The main reason for this will be that is because when the 773ER's first entered service Boeing signed a contract with GE to be sole provider of engines for the 773ER's.


User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9840 times:



Quoting _AA_777_MAN (Reply 20):
Does anyone know when the 773ERs are scheduled to be delivered? What routes will they fly?

There is a total of 6 on order. The first 3 will enter service in JUN/JUL ans SEPT 2010. The next two aircraft will arrive in 3Q and 4Q 2011 and the final aircraft will arrive FEB 2012.

The routes have not been finalised but it is expected that BA will deploy the aircraft on some of the longer routes currently served by the 747's . So flights to the likes of BKK/SYD and GRU/EZE as well as JNB, CPT, HKG, NRT and SIN. It was planned that these would be the first aircraft to come straight into service with new World Traveller and World Traveller Plus seaing as well as a new more advanced avod system from Thales.

Quoting Mascmo (Reply 21):
I would like to know what planes do the SEA to LHR route. I will be flying that in the next few months. Are they 3 or 4 class? RR or GE?

The BA48/49 is operated by a four class 747 in a 14F/70J/32W/177M configuration.
BA52/53 are usually operated by a four class 772 in a 14F/48J/40W/124M and 9 times out of 10 they are the GE powered G-VII regestration range

If you PM me your flight details I can have a look for you and see if it is a GE or RR powered 777 that is expected to operate you flight.


User currently offlineHeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9237 times:



Quoting BALHRWWCC (Reply 10):
MLE ( One of the LHR based 777's will be moved to LGW as crew rest accomadation will be required for this route due to the flight time)

Wont this be a nightmare if the a/c goes tech at LGW at 7pm with no other 777's with crew rest at LGW it will mean a length delay as a spare is sent from LHR?


25 TristarSteve : The main reason they went to CWL is because they are being fitted with an Overhead Flight Deck Crew Rest at the front, as well as the Overhead Cabin
26 Post contains links and images Flyingfox27 : Here is the photo i took of her. Probably not best quality for this site so not uploading but taken with Canon 1000D, Sigma 70-300 DG lens.
27 APYu : It wont be a lengthy delay as the flight time between the two airports is only abour 20 mins. It would be the same if they wanted a spare for any of
28 Kolozsvari : Hello All, This ac will fly today to MAA as BA35, and back as BA1036/03, then to GIG on 04. Rob
29 Vasu : What's the Y class like on YMMR?
30 Post contains links VV701 : Correct. This is shrouded in mystery particularly as it means their is a single fleet of Boeing 777 236 aircraft that, with the different engine diam
31 AA777223 : I flew on one of these aircraft out of DFW several years ago. It was one of my very few overseas flights in Y, but it was relatively comfortable.
32 CityofAthens : I'm not sure either ... cost? I had the opportunity to fly on one of the 777s that had had the new OHAR for pilots fitted between doors 1 ... it is v
33 Theginge : Slightly off the topic again but I imagine we will see the B773 ER's on BKK-SYD but probably not daily as it will take 3 of them to maintain this ser
34 DfwRevolution : There is no mystery: 1. RR was willing to offer the uprated Trent 895 before GE was willing to deliver the uprated Ge90-94B. For the delivery slots t
35 Mascmo : It looks like she has raked wingtips!?!?
36 BALHRWWCC : The same type of seat in a 3/3/3 configuration just 1 less row. 203 seats rather than 212. They will regain there spare aircraft for winter 09/10. Th
37 Hotelmode : I think thats about the last route they would go on. Very poor yield, and not worth putting a new product on initially, 772 maybe. The cabin crewing
38 Post contains links VV701 : Made its first flight on Friday: http://paineairport.com/kpae2098.htm
39 Post contains links Blackwidow : G-YMMU is out the workshops... Awaiting paint shop... http://paineairport.com/images/kpae5162.jpg
40 HeeBeeGB : What I meant was, with all other 777 not having crew rest (apart from the different between 3 and 4 class) other LGW l/haul aircraft can be juggled a
41 Hotelmode : There is no crew rest requirement to MLE. A standard LGW 777 is fine. Rest seats in the cabin are adequate.[Edited 2009-06-07 12:19:38]
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