Stil From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 345 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 70394 times:
Now a new thread part is opened, I'll write again what I think about this tragedy, as nobody gave an opinion about it.
Maybe the 'electrical problem' was something WX radar related. If the aircraft lose the radar in the middle of the intertropical front, with CB reaching FL500, it's as if becoming blind; so blindly flew though one of this huge CB.
Because they don't know exactly where the aircraft is and the Atlantic Ocean is a very big place and with indications the aircraft went down in a storm, who knows how rough the sea might be. Wreckage could be spread out over miles by the time rescue teams locate it. Also most of the wreckage will sink to the bottom of the sea which as someone indicated earlier could be 2-3km deep!
B777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 69906 times:
Based off the link given by the poster at the end of thread #2 which shows the approximate position of the aircraft when lost, coupled with the rough sea state in the area due to the CB's depicted on the NASA image, I would hazard the guess that no wreckage will be found on the surface. It is likely the French Navy with help possibly from the US Navy will be the one to eventually locate the wreckage. I wonder if by then the FDR's will still have anything retrievable.
RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7676 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 69911 times:
Regarding the problem finding the location.
The authorities know approximately where the aircraft was at it's last ATC transmission and it's last ACARS transmission.
That is where they will concentrate their search.
BUT, if the aircraft did not go down immediately, it could have flown a long way as the pilots worked the problem and tried to resolve the problems.
Searches off the coast of Africa, and farther from Brazil than 800nm are probably useless. But until some actual wreckage is found, those searches have to be made on the million and one chance the aircraft was able to fly another hour or more.
PC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2517 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 69618 times:
I was just watching FOX and those idiots were discussing about how lightning could bring down an aircraft such as this made out of composites. He was stating that most airliners are made of mostly aluminum whereas the A330 may have a problem dispersing lightning because of all the composites. This guy was from the FAA to boot.
My thoughts are with AF447.
Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin'!
KingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1304 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 69277 times:
I mentioned this in the second part to the thread, but this is starting to turn into the situation with the crash of Adam Air 574. If you remember, the black boxes were found more than 7 months after the plane went down. IIRC, no bodies were ever found.
I'm praying we don't see history repeat itself...
Tho' I've belted you an' flayed you, By the livin' Gawd that made you, You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
Borism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 69271 times:
may I repost my questions from previous part:
There are lots of people outside of aviation who are wondering right now why it takes so long to figure out even approximately where this Airbus is.
And I have to admit, even I, who knows quite a bit of details about stuff like GPS or ACARS, find it amazing that authorities don't quite seem to have figured out whether the flight is near Africa, near Brazil, or somewhere in between.
Obviously pinpointing exact location is very tough due to weather and vastness of the search area, but at least any clue at all?
How long time do they have before darkness? Something like 6 hours in case of African coast perhaps?
Hardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 68982 times:
Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 11): Sad indeed that the flight was almost sold out - IIRC, the A330-200s have a C40Y179 configuration, which makes a 98,6% load factor
According to Brazil media, 2 pax decided not to travel in the last minute, 2h before the flight (1 Brazilian and his US friend, because one noted his passport was expired and decided to stay instead), this would make the flight depart almost 100% load.
JFernandez From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 72293 times:
What's astonishingly weird to me is that this is the first time I can remember a passenger aircraft disappearing and 12 hours later still having no idea what happened to the aircraft or even where it is.
: Are there military satellites available in this region which might help in the search? Or any ships?
: My post, posted in Pt 2 just 2 seconds after the discussion was moved to Part 3, seems to have disappeared, so I'll post it again: The Slovak Ministry
: Here is the source: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u574807.shtml Pax onboard: Brazilian: 80 French: 76 German: 18 Italian: 9 US: 6
: Post 13 above, but to summarize - they know approximately where contact was last made with the aircraft - and that is most likely near the place wher
: According to French President, Brasilian, Spanish and French search teams (boats and planes) are in action. The USA have also been asked by France to
: I see a lot of people are taking the information being spewed by the press as factual. I'd be very skeptical of anything being reported. Remember, wha