Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1745 times:
There is a rumour that the 747-400 that went to Air New Zealand for a D check was going to be re-painted, and would return tor Canada with a new colour scheme introduction....So maybe it is really going to happen, although I dunno why it would be ins Singapore.
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
CPAir 4 life From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 209 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1723 times:
One of the x-Canadian 747-400s is in Singapore right now. tail #885 ( I'm not sure of it's new AC tail #)
One of the 747-400 combis is in Auckland.
Both are there for maintenance.
Maybe they are planning some kind of new paint scheme.
I cannot see this making financial sense because they have already painted most of Canadians fleet.
Caribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1627 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1679 times:
Interesting - I heard rumor of them wanting to change their livery once the AC/CP take over was finished.. Didn't CP have their Goose design painted in China? It might be to hide the look from prying photographers in Canada..
Teej13 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 486 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1670 times:
I just can't see the sense in it. It really wasn't too long ago that they switched to their current colours. The cost of repainting each aircraft is extremely high, but that isn't all. Think about all of the correspondence, flight uniforms, ticket counters, etc that would need to be changed. Do you see them replacing that big Maple Leaf under the scoreboard at the Air Canada Centre?
Caribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1627 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1643 times:
It could be just an alteration to the current scheme. Air Canada has done that in the past... like when the added the second line to the red and white colour scheme... or eliminating the back nose from the 70s into the 80s etc... also, I think in this case it has more to do with trying to find a new identity so as not to alienate CP's employees who have been swallowed up by AC... not that AC has a history of being a compansionate adversary but it might be a way of eliminating, or trying to give the impression of eliminating, the Air Canada image and creating a new one with the aim of uniting all employees from both companies under a new corporate identity.. thereby ending the allegiance to one or the other image... However, given their current financial condition I can't see this happening too quickly.. just my two cents..
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3072 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1622 times:
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The current livery could use a little sprucing up. I'd go with Caribb's suggestion that they might merely alter the current scheme a bit.
Gmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2158 posts, RR: 22 Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1617 times:
With YYZ getting its face lift, I can see the colour change or the combining of the two airlines with new colours for this huge terminal. As we all know, YYZ is the Hub and it would happen there first,
Boeing747-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
Like CPAir 4 life said, that Boeing 747-400 is C-FGHZ (cn 27827/1028, built 1994 and in service with CDN in May 1995) that is in Singapore right now. That is my fav out of the Air Canada/CP fleet.
BO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2759 posts, RR: 20 Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1546 times:
I wished that Air Canada had left at least a few of Canadians aircraft jsut the way it is..
Keep the Goose and the Dash Sign on fin.
Mayeb just put the leaf logo on the fuselage infront of the Canadian sign..
But NOOOO!!
Expanding my global domination one spotter at a time..
Samurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2451 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1538 times:
A new Air Canada colour scheme.....that's very interesting! As Caribb said, there were rumors in the past that AC might change its color scheme after the completion of the merger. Baby blue? That sounds like a color associated with Korean Airlines, not AC. But anyways, if there's going to be a new c/s, it's likely that it'll respect the heritage of both Air Canada and Canadian. That would not only try to reduce the impression of a hostile takeover (which it was really, kind of), but it would also serve to improve customer recognition of the airline to show that what was once CP is now part of AC. So maybe we'll see the rebirth of the Proud Wings.
This is why airlines are often reluctant to radically alter their logos and their names. United and Qantas for example kept their basic logos. (QF's roo logo has the wings taken off, but the stance and the color remains the same.) JAL has kept its crane logo on the tails while going for the nearly all-white fuselage. And many airlines will often keep the name of the dominant airline after a takeover, also to retain customer recognition. Examples include American and of course, Air Canada. Canadian was the odd one out after the takeover by PWA. Not only did the logo change, the name got changed causing customer confusion. Image is everything, and it's no different in the airline industry.
BTW, Koolguy40 - it's been a hell of a long time since I've heard from you. Hope you're still enjoying that Whistler scenery.
TO@YYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
Interesting that the baby blue scheme has been mentioned. I have heard from reliable sources that two aircraft tow bars were painted in a baby blue scheme with yellow trim in the Toronto paint shop last week.
Caribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1627 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1481 times:
TO@YYZ - verrry interestink ... so now we have baby blue and yellow.... this is quite far from CP's red, white & Blue and Air Canada's white and "black"/green... If all true, and it is all speculation at this point, the tow bar suggests something more than just a special scheme for one aircraft... I wonder if they'll keep the maple leaf? ....or are we just going too far with all this?
Teej13 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 486 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1457 times:
There is no way that Canada's largest carrier will go baby blue. Everything is built with some red in it. My guess is that it's just one plane that is being painted for some reason or another - T.O. 2008 Bid, maybe?
Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1455 times:
TO-2008 has a darker colour scheme, but that would be a pretty good idea...
WHo knows...I guess we will have to wait till the planes both return to canada. Could be taht whoever saw the one in SIN just saw the old CP colours being stripped off. But that does not explain those tow bars.
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
Caribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1627 posts, RR: 9 Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1441 times:
It could even have been a Korean Air 747 and mistaken for Air Canada somehow... if the aircraft was baby blue what told him it was AC? Was the "Air Canada" script seen? What colour was it? Was it in the same font? Was the Maple Leaf logo seen? Was it red? Was it changed? Was it on the tail?... where did this Singapore rumor come from?
The only thing that suggests some truth is the painted tow bars... if it's the same baby blue colour... It suggests it is not a special design otherwise why paint these relatively insignificant parts the same colour? Singapore itself is a clue.. a means to avoid North American cameras and competitors interesting in a corporate strategy change... a city with no AC service but an AC partner (Star Alliance member SIA) who might be contracted to do the job.. maybe it is the start of a common livery thread among Star Alliance member airlines? Who knows.. time will tell.
Ziffle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1437 times:
I have a good idea:
Air Can>da
or
Air Canadi>n
If they use Air Canadi>n they only have to add 3 letter and remove one...so 2...
That wouldn't be too hard would it?
A bucket of black paint down at the hardware shop costs like 25 bucks (AUD) for 4 litres or something...
Nicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1428 times:
I don't think you will never see Air Can>da, as the > in Canadi>n was only there to be an alternative to the words Canadian and Canadien, where only one letter changed between the 2 official languages of Canada.
Caribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1627 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1434 times:
Re: Ziffle - yeah and slap one of those goose things ontop of the Maple Leaf and it will look like they are flying across an Air Canada moon.... heck just drop the Maple Leaf and Canada and use the goose and Canad>in and.... hey wait a minute...!
Duke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1135 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1424 times:
This is not for real??? Air Canada spent big money on the merger, and
on re-painting Canadi>n's fleet, after having painted all its own ac's?!?!
I'll bet this is just a rumor, but then again, the kind of money wasting that
goes on in this country is really monumental. But if you wanna satisfy everyone,
then I have a suggestion. Write "Air Canada" on all the jets, but re-paint
them all with thin metal bellies, white tops, red and blue cheatlines, and a
big, kewl, realistic-looking blue goose on the tail, with a red maple leaf on
its eye.
25 Cargyvr: "a city with no AC service but an AC partner (Star Alliance member SIA) who might be contracted to do the job.. maybe it is the start of a common live
26 Lindy field: Oh boy! A Star Alliance conspiracy! Do you think so? Somebody out there needs to do some spying to see what those AC folks are doing!
27 Slawko: Just some info and ideas to add: The two tow bars are RJ tow bars, and so for those who thought that they are just for the 747....well they are not. A
28 Allee: When are the aircraft scheduled to return?
29 Red Panda: I guess it will at least take four years for AC to re-paint all its a/cs. They have such a huge fleet that it is not possible to re-paint within a sho
30 Canada Mike: Milton has had enough troubles with suddenly lean finances and grumpy shareholders to go and pull something like a full livery/corporate image change.
31 Caribb: Given the troubles of merging AC & CP, employee rivalry, discount carrier aggresion, new upstarts (Roots), a dropping share value and a general backla
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... so now we have baby blue and yellow.... this is quite far from CP's red, white & Blue and Air Canada's white and "black"/green... If all true, and it is all speculation at this point, the tow bar suggests something more than just a special scheme for one aircraft... I wonder if they'll keep the maple leaf? ....or are we just going too far with all this?
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