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American MD-80 - Cone Vs. Screwdriver  
User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4857 posts, RR: 10
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

What's the breakdown of American's MD-80s with a cone tail verses the flat 'screwdriver' tail? Are they still retrofitting cone tails to the screwdriver tail?


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User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Were they not all converted at this point?


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User currently offlineG4LASRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

I thought AA had all of their tails converted or delivered with the screwdriver version.

But there are still ships out there that have the cone - a couple of the latest ones G4 bought have the cone version.


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User currently offlinePlanefreakaa From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

all aa super 80's have been converted to the low drag tail, as of about 2 years ago

User currently offlineRemcor From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2625 times:



Quoting G4LASRamper (Reply 2):
I thought AA had all of their tails converted or delivered with the screwdriver version.



Quoting NWADC9 (Thread starter):
Are they still retrofitting cone tails to the screwdriver tail?

So what's the better kind, the cone tail or screwdriver tail?

User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2595 times:



Quoting Remcor (Reply 4):
So what's the better kind, the cone tail or screwdriver tail?

The screwdriver is better; it's actually supposed to save quite a bit of fuel (and thus $$$).

Matt

User currently offlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2203 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2575 times:		 Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting FURUREFA (Reply 5):

The screwdriver is better; it's actually supposed to save quite a bit of fuel (and thus $$$).

Matt

It's supposed to save fuel and be lighter since it is composite(all of the other airlines have the option of using composite for the tailcone). American I think has all of their MD-80's with the new tailcone design.


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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2536 times:



Quoting Planefreakaa (Reply 3):
all aa super 80's have been converted to the low drag tail, as of about 2 years ago

Really??? I'm just curious because we have 2 AA MD-80's that have just recently arrived in VCV that both have the old style "cone".

FX1816

User currently offlineG4LASRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Those cones probably sat as servicable parts in storage for years. When those tails finally got sent to VCV they put the old cones back on, and kept the screwdrivers as servicable spares for the remaining fleet.


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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2308 times:



Quoting G4LASRamper (Reply 8):
Those cones probably sat as servicable parts in storage for years. When those tails finally got sent to VCV they put the old cones back on, and kept the screwdrivers as servicable spares for the remaining fleet.

They'd really do that??? I mean I could see why and all but that is still interesting.

FX1816
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