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Braniff DC-8's..Where Did They Fly?  
User currently offlineLemonKitty From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 129 posts, RR: 10
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6345 times:
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Did Braniff use their DC-8's on any domestic routes? If so, where?
Where did they fly on international routes? Mexico? South America? Europe? Asia?
I know they flew their 747's and 747-SP's to Europe, Hawaii, and Asia....

LK


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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8741 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6322 times:

DC8s did fly mainly the South American network, which Braniff got by merging with Pan American Grace Airways in 1967/68 . The DC8-62 came with that merger Routes were LAX originating, not sure if the other gateway was MIUA or in Texas.

After Braniff went bankrupt, Eastern aquired these routes.



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User currently offlinePA515 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2007, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6259 times:



Quoting LemonKitty (Thread starter):
Where did they fly on international routes? Mexico? South America? Europe? Asia?

Have a photo of a DC8-62 at PTY in June 1971. Late Wednesday afternoon arrival from SCL or BUE then on to the US (daylight return of an overnight southbound). Also recall an overnight BUE-MIA in 1977.

PA515


User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

Braniff had DC-8 service between DFW and SFO at least once.

I was waiting for a flight to somewhere (probably TUL), and the SFO flight was departing from a nearby gate. I remember looking at the green plane and wishing I were going to SFO instead of wherever I was going.

I think that's the only Braniff DC-8 I ever saw there, but that was a long time ago and I could be mistaken.



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User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2067 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6193 times:
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ATL,TPA,MIA in the 1970's. Used to see -50's in ATL. -50's and -62's in TPA,MIA. Remember -62's in TPA late '70's in that wonderful Halston livery.


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User currently offlineLonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4762 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6181 times:

We occasionally saw BN DC-8s in YYZ when doing their DFW-YYZ-YUL flights. Usually it was operated by a B727-200, but some days of the week it was a DC-8-62!


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User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6156 times:



Quoting Long Hauler (Reply 5):
We occasionally saw BN DC-8s in YYZ when doing their DFW-YYZ-YUL flights. Usually it was operated by a B727-200, but some days of the week it was a DC-8-62!

I was going to mention that. Also did they not run charters out of YYZ with the DC-8's to Mexico in the winter or was that from DTW back in the seventies?



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8092 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6141 times:
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The DC-8's were used mainly to South America from Miami, LAX, JFK and SFO. Braniff's Latin Network was heavily geared toward the west coast of South America, especially Panama & Lima. DC-8's were common in Bogota, Cali, Panama, Lima, Santiago and EZE. Pan AM was the nonstop airline to Brazil, EZE and SCL.

User currently offlineJmbweeboy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

I remember flying the Alexander Calder "Flying Colors" version of the DC-8-62 between Quito and Bogota. One very colorful airplane!

JMBWEEBOY


User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6015 times:

When BN increased their DEN operations in 1977, OAK saw BN DC-8s (not certain if they were the 50 or 60 series). The flights were routed OAK-DEN-Florida.
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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6003 times:

When John Nance flew for Braniff, he flew the DC8. He has mentioned this many times.
safe



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6709 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5954 times:

Before 1978, I'm guessing BN's DC8-62s only flew to South America and domestic tag-ons like SFO-LAX. But their 1978 domestic expansion brought lots more domestic flights, with the -50s anyway-- OAK-DEN was a DC8-50.

User currently offlineG4LASRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5932 times:

Right after deregulation in 1978 BN occasionally had DC-8-61's on ATL-LAS-RNO, normally flown by B-727-200.


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User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5880 times:

LemonKitty,

If it is of any interest to you, I have a complete Braniff timetable from October 1979 posted on my www.departedflights.com site that shows the aircraft types used on each flight. You will see DC-8s scattered throughout. Unfortunately you will need to go page-by-page.

The direct link is:

http://www.departedflights.com/BN102879p3.html

Also of possible interest are some Official Airline Guide schedules for 1974, showing some Baniff DC-8 routes:

http://www.departedflights.com/74intro.html

Hope this is of some interest!

Greg

[Edited 2009-06-03 11:31:43]

User currently offlineSkymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5824 times:



Quoting Jmbweeboy (Reply 8):
remember flying the Alexander Calder "Flying Colors" version of the DC-8-62 between Quito and Bogota. One very colorful airplane!

I flew that beauty(!!?)) from GIG to LAX one night, via LIM!

Long night -- but the stop for 1 1/2 hours in LIM was a pleasant break .. as I remember, it was a very light load and I had a 3-across all to myself. Total flight time GIG to LAX was, if I remember, about 14 hours (I maybe wrong, though ..)



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User currently offline123 From Bolivia, joined Nov 2003, 743 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

Taken from my logbook:



14JUN80 LB CBB LPB B-727-100
16JUN80 BN 978 LPB GUA 00:55 03:40 DC-8-62
16JUN80 BN 978 GUA PTY 04:43 06:18 DC-8-62
16JUN80 BN 978 PTY MIA 07:55 10:22 DC-8-62
16JUN80 NA 949 MIA MSY 13:44 15:19 DC-10-30
16JUN80 NA 949 MSY SFO 16:16 20:14 DC-10-30
08AUG80 BN 921 SFO LAX 17:30 18:26 DC-8-62
08AUG80 BN 921 LAX LIM 20:10 05:19 DC-8-62
09AUG80 BN 979 LIM LPB 06:49 07:30 DC-8-62
09AUG80 LB LPB CBB 12:00 12:30 B-727

BN in the '80s had a dense DC8 route system in the USA/Central/South America!

Interesting too is the NA flight - National, at that time already under control of Pan Am.


User currently offlineTUSAA From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5650 times:

Braniff started IAH-TUS-LAS flights with DC-8's in Dec'78.

User currently offlineSocalfive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5619 times:

I saw one at the gate in Denver in the summer of '79.

User currently offlinePA515 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2007, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5510 times:



Quoting 123 (Reply 15):
16JUN80 BN 978 LPB GUA 00:55 03:40 DC-8-62
16JUN80 BN 978 GUA PTY 04:43 06:18 DC-8-62

Should your GUA's be GYE's?

PA515


User currently offlineAvion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5478 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
The DC-8's were used mainly to South America from Miami, LAX, JFK and SFO. Braniff's Latin Network was heavily geared toward the west coast of South America, especially Panama & Lima. DC-8's were common in Bogota, Cali, Panama, Lima, Santiago and EZE. Pan AM was the nonstop airline to Brazil, EZE and SCL.

Yes. saw some of these beauties in 1981 and 1982 in both EZE and SCL: a bright blue one and another chocolate brown (rootbeer?). Somewhere I have a poor scan of N1809E at SCL along with CP DC10.

I'm sure that on the same visit to SCL there was also a PA L1011 there too.


User currently offline123 From Bolivia, joined Nov 2003, 743 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5391 times:



Quoting PA515 (Reply 18):
Should your GUA's be GYE's?

Totally correct; GUA = what I wrote when I was really young and had no idea of IATA codes. I did not correct it when pasting...


User currently offlineColinatl From Colombia, joined Jul 2005, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5348 times:

I used to fly Braniff DC-8s from MIA to PTY, BOG and CLO as well as from CLO to UIO and LIM.

Those were the days!


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5092 times:



Quoting N702ML (Reply 13):
If it is of any interest to you, I have a complete Braniff timetable from October 1979 posted on my www.departedflights.com site that shows the aircraft types used on each flight. You will see DC-8s scattered throughout. Unfortunately you will need to go page-by-page.

The direct link is:

http://www.departedflights.com/BN102....html

This Braniff schedule is very misleading when it shows the equipment being used. DC-8s were shown as operating to many of the cities listed in the Braniff schedule, when in fact it was not the case. When the DC-8 is listed once and there are two or three flight numbers, not all flights were a DC-8. This occurs numerous times in the schedules for South American cities.

For instance, page 10 lists Bogota to Amarillo as DC-8 service, with flight #121 DFW to AMA. However page 18 lists flight #121 as 727. Page 10 lists Bogota to Lubbock as DC-8 service, with DC-8 from DFW to LBB for flights #37 and #143. However page 20 lists these DFW to LBB flights as 727 service.
Page 10 lists Bogota to Wichita service as DC-8, with flight #152 from MIA to ICT. However Wichita never had DC-8 service. Page 47 shows the MIA to ICT flight #152 as 727.

This same equipment issue is with the 747 in the Braniff schedule. All flights from Guam show 747 service, even to Wichita, Lubbock and Corpus Christi. None of these cities had 747 service.

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User currently offlineIgneousRocks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5056 times:



Quoting CitationJet (Reply 22):
DC-8s were shown as operating to many of the cities listed in the Braniff schedule, when in fact it was not the case.

I see what you are talking about. Probably Braniff's intention was to show that at least one segment of a traveler's connecting itinerary was flown via DC-8 (it being the more 'elite' aircraft operating the published schedule)

Quoting TUSAA (Reply 16):
Braniff started IAH-TUS-LAS flights with DC-8's in Dec'78.

This is an interesting. The BN December 15, 1978 timetable is certainly one of the most interesting airline timetables ever published it terms of new service introduced.


User currently offlineSWABrian From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

BN flew former Delta DC-8-51s from OAK to DEN and MIA if I remember correctly in 1979.

25 Post contains links and images Shankly : Although I never had the pleasure of seeing a Braniff 8 at LGW (just the BIG Orange), looks like they did visit: View Large View MediumPhoto © St
26 Aviateur : BOS Near the end of BN's life, it deployed DC-8s from its short lived hub at BOS for flights to select cities in Europe. Brussels and Amsterdam, if I
27 2travel2know : Braniff DC8 used to fly non-stop from LPB to ASU, EZE and GYE, not sure if LPB-SCL too. It might be worth noticing that today it seems no airline flie
28 MSPNWA : "Splash of Colors" talks about flight 976 when Braniff shut down. That flight operated among JFK/MIA/LIM. So there's one domestic DC-8.
29 OB1504 : Were Braniff's South American runs the sole domain of the DC-8, or did some of the multi-stop routes (such as MIA-PTY-LIM-LPB-ASU-EZE) see 727s, too?
30 Viscount724 : In the October 28,1979 timetable, 727s operated a few flights to PTY/BOG/CLO/GYE, although all those points also had DC-8 service. One interesting 72
31 OB1504 : Did the -50s and the -60s fly the same routes? What happened to the -30s Braniff inherited from Panagra?
32 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : The 4 ex-Panagra DC-8-31s were all disposed of iin late 1967, a few months after the merger. One went to UA. I believe they based it in DEN and used
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