TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3224 posts, RR: 4 Posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1954 times:
Wow.... Just poking around the JetAmerica Website, and it appears that the demand for cheap seats has been grossly overstated.
In the first month of TOL-EWR service, there are only 5 days that DO NOT have $9 fares still available. 7/17, 7/24, 7/31, 8/7, and 8/9 are all at $29. Every other flight still has $9 seats available. With the promise of only 9 to 19 seats sold at $9..... yikes.....
MLB is doing better, most flights are now at $49. But there are some $9 seats available in August.
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6107 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
What kind of marketing are they doing? Being an aviation nerd, I have obviously heard of them, but even so I do not know much, let alone their routes. That being said, I do not live in their service area. What kind of advertising are they doing in Toledo, New York, Melbourne, etc. to get the word out?
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15814 posts, RR: 50 Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1858 times:
Considering you can count the TOL-NYC market size on one hand, maybe two, I'm not surprised, but where are they selling tickets besides there website?
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1922 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1664 times:
I find it interesting this is not the way the fares were yesterday. Most of July and most of August had sold out of the $9 fares in the markets until something changed today. I thought maybe they were kicking off their ad campaign, but I have yet to see anything.
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2): Considering you can count the TOL-NYC market size on one hand, maybe two,
Do you have any credible statistics to back that up? Or is that just a side hand comment?
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1629 times:
This is great; all the tricks we learned and entertainment many of us had doing the same analysis of the life-and-death of SkyBus, can now be employed once again!
(They just don't make airlines like they used to!)
Oh yeah: good luck JetAmerica (or whomever you really are.)
TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3224 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1608 times:
Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 3): I find it interesting this is not the way the fares were yesterday.
Well then they are not being honest about their fares. When this thing launched, we were told that there would be "9-19 seats at $9. Book early, because when they are gone, they are gone." Obviously once the $9 fares dried up, so did demand. So here we go, dumping cheap seats into the market once again. You can still get a $9 seat on the FIRST FREAKING FLIGHT. You're telling me that the consultants, Port board members, and local dignitaries and their friends couldn't buy 19 seats at $9? Or that once those 19 were gone, bookings stopped?
Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 3): Do you have any credible statistics to back that up?
Honestly, I think Maverick may be closer to the truth than what you and I have been shown as the demand for TOL-NYC. It obviously isn't what consultants have told us it was.
Klwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1810 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
I agree with Maverick. Reminds me a little bit of CO's COLite experiment. They dumped all kinds of cheap seats between downright wacky city pairs, with unacceptable results.
I recall one day when CO was going full tilt with COLite experiment, on one day midweek their systemwide load factor was around 38 percent. No joke. I was working for them at the time.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1382 times:
Do you suppose maybe the American public is finally starting to pay attention and think things out a bit before jumping blindly at the cheapest item, product or service they can find? Maybe a whole lot of this segment of the flying public actually got stung by SkyBus... Or at least remember what happened to others?
In this tough economy, money is even more precious and perhaps people are actually being more careful with it now.
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