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What's Going On In PIT - Part 12  
User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 10
Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16124 times:

With the next edition of the What's Going on in PIT series, I bring you the first flight to Paris post-US's Shaft - Delta 188:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL188

Just took off a couple minutes ago (listening to LiveATC feed)


Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16088 times:

I took some pics of the DL 757 on my cellphone. Where can I upload them to so you all can see them? These photos are NOT a.net quality. haha.... They are nothing great, but a cool looking 757 to begin with! I think the DL rampers were wondering what I was doing just parked there staring at them. hahaha...


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User currently offlineTarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 383 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16056 times:

The return flight tomorrow shows a 772 on Flightaware:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...9/history/20090604/0850Z/LFPG/KPIT

I know it has to be a mistake.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16027 times:

More Washington weather diversions

Deja vu from the other night - Alaska Airlines, AA and UA 757s, in addition to NW A-319 and perhaps a few others.

Edit- An additional UA 757 and A-320 just popped up as well.

[Edited 2009-06-03 18:51:15]


FLYi
User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 16006 times:

Anyone have pics of the first departure?

Too bad the weather wasn't better for the inaugural flight.


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 16009 times:

Quoting Tarmacphotos (Reply 2):
The return flight tomorrow shows a 772 on Flightaware

If only...   

Quoting PITrules (Reply 3):
More Washington weather diversions

See? Planespotting at PIT isn't crummy - just pray for bad weather in DC! 

With all these diverts, where do they go? I'm listening to ground on liveatc.net, but I didn't hear everything. WN I see hogging their side of A, but what about AA, AC, UA, and NW? How 'bout AS, which of course doesn't come here?

[Edited 2009-06-03 19:31:23]


Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 15967 times:



Quoting NWADC9 (Thread starter):
With the next edition of the What's Going on in PIT series, I bring you the first flight to Paris post-US's Shaft - Delta 188:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL188

Just took off a couple minutes ago (listening to LiveATC feed)

Yup... It's right smack over the Atlantic as we speak!

Heh, just as this plane was about to depart I was listening to McCartney & Wings' "Jet" on Youtube.

"And Jet, I thought the major was a lady suffragette. JET"

"I'll matter, want Jet to always love me.
I'll matter, want Jet to always love me.
I'll matter, much later..." Big grin

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 5):
Quoting Tarmacphotos (Reply 2):
The return flight tomorrow shows a 772 on Flightaware

If only...

Yeah... Tell me about it.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 15956 times:

Quoting Tarmacphotos (Reply 2):
The return flight tomorrow shows a 772 on Flightaware:

It might be a legitimate equipment swap in CDG. The 757 doesn't mave much turn time in CDG; if it is arriving with some maintenance issues, they might be considering swapping with another aircraft that is scheduled to sit a few hours longer, thereby giving the 757 a few extra hours to be fixed in an effort to keep the departure on time. If swapped, the original 777 (JFK, ATL?) load scheduled for tomorrow would have to fit in a 757. All conjecture on my part, and it seems like it would be a lot of effort to keep one flight on time. However CDG-PIT tomorrow is still an inaugural flight - I'm sure Delta wants to run it on time. That is if my conjecture is in the ball park.

Or it could be a mistake with Flightaware  

Incidentally, Flightaware is also showing an empty (9XXX flight #) 757 tomorrow from ATL-PIT. Might have to do with the 777 listing, or it might simply be a baseball charter.

We'll have to keep an eye on this.

[Edited 2009-06-03 20:31:30]


FLYi
User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15930 times:



Quoting PITrules (Reply 7):
We'll have to keep an eye on this.

Indeed.

If it truly is a 777, you'll know where to find me  Wink

To add more confusion, DL's site shows the 752 on the schedule for the return to PIT, not the 772. Even more confusing is where it's supposedly parking, D80, and not one of the international gates at C. And if that's not enough, the flight to CDG is leaving next door at D78...

Quoting PITrules (Reply 7):
Incidentally, Flightaware is also showing an empty (9XXX flight #) 757 tomorrow from ATL-PIT. Might have to do with the 777 listing, or it might simply be a baseball charter.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9690

And DL shows it as a 738 instead of a 752, parking at D80.



Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 15907 times:

Tonight we had 2 diversions. 1 was an AA 757 and the other was an AA MD-80. I saw the Alaska 737 taxi in and sit forever. Apparently Alaska couldn't get a hold of anyone to let them park. haha... We would normally handle them but were out of gate space.

I have photos of the Delta inagural flight if anyone wants to see them. I am going to post links tomorrow morning!

Night all!



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User currently offlinePIT From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 15904 times:

Here is the recording of the ATC for DAL 188.

http://www.meyernetworks.net/dal188.mp3


User currently offlinePITA333 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 391 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 15897 times:



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 8):
Even more confusing is where it's supposedly parking, D80, and not one of the international gates at C. And if that's not enough, the flight to CDG is leaving next door at D78...

I too was wondering about this. Shout out to all you DL people at PIT: Do we know how DL plans to handle the arrival?

Quoting PIT" class=quote target=_blank>PIT (Reply 10):
Here is the recording of the ATC for DAL 188.

Thanks a lot for that, PIT! It was great to hear.


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 15840 times:

FlightAware now shows a 757 over the Atlantic on its way to the Steel City, but there's still a 777 scheduled  boggled 


Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineTarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 383 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 15771 times:

They also have a 772 scheduled for that flight tomorrow. Whoever is filing the flight plan must be confused.

Thanks for the audio of the departure PIT!


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 15721 times:



Quoting PIT (Reply 10):
Here is the recording of the ATC for DAL 188.

http://www.meyernetworks.net/dal188.mp3

 hyper  faint 

Quoting Tarmacphotos (Reply 13):
They also have a 772 scheduled for that flight tomorrow. Whoever is filing the flight plan must be confused.

Yeah, what gives? Wishful thinking here or something?



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 15693 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 14):
Yeah, what gives? Wishful thinking here or something?

Probably to make the ACAA happy that they're getting widebodies until the plane actually takes off  stirthepot 



Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15671 times:



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 15):
Probably to make the ACAA happy that they're getting widebodies until the plane actually takes off

Heh heh heh heh...  spin 

I looked at the bookings on DL's website, and the Sat/Sun bookings some 2-3 months out look pretty strong, the flights are at least half full... Mon/Wed and Thurs not so strong, but I guess that's normal on those days...



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User currently offlineTooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 15528 times:

So I've been hunting for flight to/from Europe for a number of my friends and I've discovered something slightly disturbing. The PIT-CDG flight comes up as a competitively priced first flight for almost all the itineraries i've looked at (continuing to DUS, FRA, SNN, and DUB in various cases). However, on the way back, the flight NEVER shows up because it leaves CDG so early I guess its hard to get a connection in time. I think we can all agree that this flight can't survive on PIT-CGS o/d traffic only and it exists 100% to serve as a transfer point in Europe.

I can appreciate the benefit of arrive into PIT at 2:00 with no NYC or PHL connections, but if you can't utilize the flight outside of France, what real benefit is it?


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15515 times:



Quoting Tooluther (Reply 17):
So I've been hunting for flight to/from Europe for a number of my friends and I've discovered something slightly disturbing. The PIT-CDG flight comes up as a competitively priced first flight for almost all the itineraries i've looked at (continuing to DUS, FRA, SNN, and DUB in various cases). However, on the way back, the flight NEVER shows up because it leaves CDG so early I guess its hard to get a connection in time. I think we can all agree that this flight can't survive on PIT-CGS o/d traffic only and it exists 100% to serve as a transfer point in Europe.

I can appreciate the benefit of arrive into PIT at 2:00 with no NYC or PHL connections, but if you can't utilize the flight outside of France, what real benefit is it?

I found just the opposite looking for flights to FRA. Going to Europe, they send me through JFK. Coming home, they send me through CDG and on 189.



Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15484 times:



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 18):
Coming home, they send me through CDG and on 189.

What kind of equipment is used between CDG and FRA?



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15474 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 19):
What kind of equipment is used between CDG and FRA?

They're AF flights, Steeler, so it could be anything from a 735 to an A319/A320. Check airfrance.com.



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15461 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 19):
What kind of equipment is used between CDG and FRA?

A318s mostly, with an occasional A319 and one EMB-190



Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 15433 times:



Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 20):
They're AF flights, Steeler, so it could be anything from a 735 to an A319/A320.



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 21):
A318s mostly, with an occasional A319 and one EMB-190

Ah, thanks. I would have checked it myself, but I can't get enough of the Pens "Staaling" Detroit's Cup pursuit!

Yeah, I went there.  Wink

In any event, I guess AF uses their commuter flights for intra-France flying, as does LH for intra-Germany flights?

Oh wait, there's high-speed rail for that. D'oh! I'm such a dope on certain days!



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User currently offlinePITA333 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 391 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 15401 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 22):
Ah, thanks. I would have checked it myself, but I can't get enough of the Pens "Staaling" Detroit's Cup pursuit!

Congrats! You win the award for best Penguins Related pun I've heard thus far, haha.  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 15394 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 22):
In any event, I guess AF uses their commuter flights for intra-France flying, as does LH for intra-Germany flights?

Oh wait, there's high-speed rail for that. D'oh! I'm such a dope on certain days!

AF does have intra-France flying, and it is done with A318s, A319s, A320s, and 735s. They also codeshare on the high-speed rail lines, as do many other airlines, like DL and UA.



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25 PITrules : I've had the same concerns as well. Departing at 10:40 am is early for a departure from Europe. However, I just searched Delta's web site for a bunch
26 Steeler83 : I saw that myself. I realize that Monday, Weds and Thurs flights are rather slow in the bookings, but as I said I guess it's normal for those days. A
27 USPIT10L : CityJet is one of AF's regional partners. The peak travel days when I worked at DGS were Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday during the second stin
28 PITrules : Absolutely! Lets hope that plan works. Yes, which further goes to show the website anomally Tooluther brought up. You can't make a single booking on
29 USPIT10L : SkyTeam partners don't allow bookings on codeshare partners. In other words, if you wanna book something that isn't served by "mainline" AF, you have
30 Post contains links and images PITrules : "Airport ramping up for a spike in traffic from G-20 summit" http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09157/975562-147.stm "Mr. Penrod said the end of the airpo
31 NWADC9 : This I have to see. Foreign dignitaries walking through an airport terminal. Security risk?
32 PITrules : Yeah, I think many of them will use remote locations for arriving and departing. But as mentioned in the previous thread, seems like during the downti
33 Tarmacphotos : Air Force One and the foreign heads of state will arrive at the 911th for security reasons as they always do.
34 Tarmacphotos : I just got back from a couple hours of spotting at PIT. I got a heads up that WN would have Shamu, California One, and Lone Star One arriving. I also
35 Tooluther : From everyone I've been speaking with, the ACCD's "suggestion" that all trans-atlantic flights be via the DL flight unless there is a major reason ag
36 USPIT10L : Good. Just another sign Pittsburgh is moving on and forgetting about US Airways. Hopefully we can keep this flight after the two-year subsidy runs ou
37 Kubus : The 10:40A CDG departure on 189 is early. I'm flying back from WAW to catch it, and I had to get the earliest AF flight... thank god they RON in WAW,
38 NWADC9 : They used to be on FlightAware, then they blocked themselves. It comes into PIT quite often, and every time I love it.
39 USPIT10L : Actually the late afternoon seems to be the best time for transatlantic flights to leave on the east coast, as they get in early enough in the mornin
40 Steeler83 : Amen! It's time to stick a fork in the belly of the US Airways aircraft at PIT; they are DONE! They were actually done some years back. Praise Delta
41 Silentbob : Getting subsidized to fly one flight per day does not equal someone "taking a chance". If it was a viable market, someone would have done it for free
42 Post contains links Tarmacphotos : Ultimate Jet Charters operates the Dorniers. They do casino charters at LBE and AGC to ACY. The one seen often at PIT is a daily corporate charter fo
43 PITops : The Red Wings DC 9 is sitting over at Atlantic Aviation. Looks disgusting!
44 Steeler83 : Ok, maybe those weren't the best words to use... altho: I do believe it is a viable market, as international O&D has increased. IMO, the other airlin
45 Kubus : Thanks Tarmac. 328 jet is such odd beast I was catching up on Boyd's Monday morning ramblings, or quarterbacking, whatever you want to call it. He doe
46 NWADC9 : Absolutely. We don't need 767s and A330s to Europe. We're not a hub anymore, so there's no connecting pax. Did NW send A330s on its BDL-AMS route? No
47 Post contains links PITrules : Recurring diversions for the same AA and AS flights; 3x in three weeks just like clockwork. Alaska should just start a weekly SEA-PIT-DCA route. Likew
48 NWADC9 : They're probably confusing the ACAA now, making them believe PIT pulled in a new flight to SEA, LAX, DCA, and IAD and a new airline I didn't see the
49 Cush : When I saw the UAL 777 I thought I was dreaming!! I tried racing over to get a photo, but got held up and ended up driving around the whole freakin ai
50 Post contains links Pit : I flew pit bos bos mco today. bad day to travel. i ended up being delayed 3 hrs. I like my routeing. Bos Mco was the best. the route that taken added
51 PITops : I'd definately like to see that! When I was pulling out of the employee lot I saw the 772 sitting there. I had to do a double take. I wanted to go ba
52 Tooluther : speaking of pics, where are the PIT-CGD inaugural run pics? For that matter, where are the local media's pictures of it. I thought there would be a to
53 USPIT10L : The ACAA was supposed to do a celebration that day, but the AF crash postponed it. Remember, the cameras and reporters are not allowed on airside, pe
54 Ktrick45 : A C-5B just flew overhead on downwind for 28L. I didn't know it was expected.
55 Post contains links N670UW : Good news - UA is moving up the start date of PIT-LAX/SFO to August 18 so there is no gap after US ends those flights. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/
56 Post contains links PITrules : Here is some video from the first flight: http://kdka.com/video/?id=58584@kdka.dayport.com http://kdka.com/video/?id=58641@kdka.dayport.com They did
57 Steeler83 : " target=_blank>http://kdka.com/video/?id=58641@kdka...t.com I loved how the DL gate employees wore those, what are they, chapeaus rouges? Those red
58 USPIT10L : I know the gate agent in the clip, Erica Gerginske. She used to work with at DGS on the ramp.
59 Tarmacphotos : It was a C-5A from MRB. They have been doing pattern work at PIT fairly often now. A few weeks ago one was in the pattern at the same time a 911th C-
60 Post contains links Tarmacphotos : AA mad dogs start service to PIT tomorrow: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20090611/1740Z/KDFW/KPIT
61 Post contains images Steeler83 : " target=_blank>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A.../KPIT I'd be willing to bet that some folks would like to be at PIT for some AA spotting at aro
62 Post contains images NWADC9 : Something that irks me about all this coverage over our new CDG flight is that people seem to forget that we have flights to Mexico and Canada, so we
63 Steeler83 : According to their website as I was looking at the bookings, the second MD80 gets in around 10pm, which to me is kinda strange. I guess there's more
64 PITops : That's what I thought when I saw the news report from it. They emphasized international. I got to see 2 touch and goes from the C5. Tarmacphotos text
65 Steeler83 : I think those sometimes land down at Dover AFB in Delaware. I saw one land right next to DE 1 as my fiancee and I were coming back from a weekend in
66 Post contains links PITrules : Delta to add ATL frequency: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/business/s_629239.html
67 Post contains links Logos : Howard Hanna (large Pittsburgh-based Realtor) has booked 100 tickets on the Delta flight to Paris as incentives for its top-producing agents. At least
68 NWADC9 : One of my must-dos in life is to get a PIT stamp on my passport...
69 Kubus : Got a few of those thanks to BA (LGW) and US (FRA).. oh wait, the LGW was in my Polish passport. Fine FRA it is.
70 Steeler83 : I wonder if that will be an MD-88 flight...
71 PITrules : I wonder as well if it will be mainline or Connection. I'll have a look at their website reservations a little later when I have time. However, Delta
72 Pgh234 : ha...I just booked a PIT-CDG r/t flight in August and thought the exact same thing. I am pretty excited to not be sleeping in EWR or CVG this time.
73 Post contains links PITrules : Latest traffic statistics are out; down 11% ytd. "Traffic down at PIT, but American expanding to Dallas/Fort Worth" http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pi
74 RIX : What's going on @PIT? A HUGE CELEBRATION!!!
75 PITops : EXACTLY!!!
76 PITrules : Don't get too excited guys...expect a bland oval stamp which states "DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY - US CUSTOMS AND BORDER POTECTION", and a date s
77 Post contains links PITrules : "Massachusetts-based Cape Air is not interested in pursuing the flights at this time" http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09164/977076-28.stm#ixzz0IINX965D
78 NWADC9 : Geography? As in the fees are too high of a mountain to climb? But it's still from PIT
79 Steeler83 : I just looked at the available flights for July 15, and September 2, and this is what it looks like... 7/15: 4x MD 88 2x CR7 2x CR9 9/2: 3x MD88 1x 7
80 Tarmacphotos : " target=_blank>http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09164...65D&D "Ms. Haynes said one major factor that worked against Pittsburgh was a good highway syst
81 Steeler83 : You think Pittsburgh as a good roads/highway network? The Parkway West has 3 different highway designations between Downtown and PIT: I-279, US22-30,
82 PITIngres : It's being turned into a semi-clover, semi-diamond. (Not sure if the highway types have a name for such a thing.) The curving on-ramps which are the
83 PITops : It's called a partial diamond I believe. Should help tremendously. I hope they eventually add turning lights to the left lane when you get off the Ro
84 NWADC9 : I sure hope so. I absolutely dread that garbled mess (as well as any on-ramp ruined by PennDOT's stupid stop signs while I try to make what's left of
85 Tarmacphotos : No way. My point was the article says we have an excellent highway system. I am wondering if they have ever driven on our roads.[Edited 2009-06-17 13
86 Steeler83 : I would think that since US 22-30 continues all the way into West Virginia and into Ohio as a limited access freeway, why not have a fly-over ramp fr
87 Post contains links PITrules : I thought the same thing when I read that. I wonder what went on with Cape Air; obviously she made up some BS excuse about the regions roads being go
88 PITops : Half of the interchange is already there. Check out a google earth shot.
89 Pliersinsight : How about these storms. Lotsa holding going on out over WV, OH and MD.
90 PITops : Yeah. They were pretty intense!
91 N670UW : Flightaware showing quite a few diversions to CMH among other places. I'm about 45 minutes southwest of PIT in eastern Ohio and the hail was crazy!
92 PITops : I live 5 minutes north of PIT and it was pretty nasty up here. WN had 2 diversions to CMH as far as I know. Both have landed safely back here at PIT.
93 Steeler83 : KDKA confirmed a funnel cloud. Did it make like James Harrison and Santonio Holmes on Feb 1st of this year and "touch down?" So they think that addin
94 NWADC9 : PRICELESS!!! That storm was intense! I've never seen water come in through our basement like that
95 Tooluther : I'm flying a B6 red eye back from the west coast in July (PDX-JFK-PIT) and WOW does the first flight from NYC to PIT look awful from the perspective o
96 Pit : Were doing pretty well actually. Just added another flight. ost loads leave 90% to 95% full. They sell more twoards the day of the flight. Usually mo
97 Tooluther : Well that makes sense (day off travel) and is a good thing. Flight in question is 1051 on 7/28. Next question: In light of apparently some of the G20
98 Pit : 1051 has 59 out of 100 seats sold. 0 standbys. I guarentee that flight will be sold out by the 28th. Our JFK flights do really well. The BOS flights
99 Tarmacphotos : 3980' x 50' for PA88. Nothing of significance will land there. I hope LBE will not steal any traffic though.
100 Willbdsp : So now that US has pulled SFO and LAX where does US fly nonstop from PIT?
101 Tarmacphotos : I think just: BOS, LGA, PHL, DCA, BDL, RDU, CLT, STL, PHX, and LAS
102 Steeler83 : Yup, all of about 40 flights left now. Hard to believe that DL is about to be a close 2nd with 32 daily flights to ATL, JFK, CVG, DTW, MSP, MEM, and
103 Pliersinsight : First, AGC might be, and I say might because the dates are all rumor mill right now, closed in September. Stimulus project involving lighting and run
104 USPIT10L : The flights are already being handled by DL people, so it might as well be Delta only. Frankly, I'd still rather fly Delta than anyone else these day
105 PITops : I thought they already said they were going to postpone the closing till after the summit?
106 Tarmacphotos : Sort of...the closure will be before the summit in August, and for less time than they originally planned. While all of the heads of state will arriv
107 Tooluther : First, to the AGC closure point. No one under estimate the power that this even is wielding over construction projects. If they decide they want it op
108 Pliersinsight : Is the USX tower helipad open again? Where would you plan to land downtown....in the Donzi's parking lot? We lack a Wall Street Heliport. Would the d
109 PITrules : I'm beginning to wish AGC would be closed as originally planned for this. This event is the best opportunity Pittsburgh has ever had to showcase itsel
110 Tarmacphotos : I just learned yesterday that someone was at AGC last week when I was out of town looking at securing an LZ near the convention center for this sort
111 Post contains links NWADC9 : Did PIT just get so lame that there's nothing to talk about for five days? I got stuff to bring to the table - well, Cleveland does - a swarm of the p
112 PIT : Didn't hear anything about the power outtage, but it started raining just as we scored that last play to win the game! Both trams are operating. The
113 NWADC9 : Will there be any festivities a NW passenger might be able to join in on? Would they be open around 10a or so? I went there with my mom and little br
114 PITops : I was there... had some lightning in the distance for most of the 9th inning. Didn't really start raining till after play had ended and I was walking
115 PITrules : Another excellent day for diversions, including a FedEx DC-10 and Kalitta 747
116 Flaps : If I were one of the delegates assigned to Nemacolin I would be sorely tempted to "disappear" for two days. That place is fabulous. The runway is shor
117 PITops : Of course I was off!!!
118 NWADC9 : And I was at the Pirates game!!! At least I got to see the Virgin America A320, albeit its belly...
119 Tarmacphotos : Your slacking. Your supposed to notify me of these things.
120 PITops : I do get a few days off every once in awhile haha.
121 Post contains links Tarmacphotos : There is a TFR listed for PIT tomorrow at 1450 hrs for a VIP arrival: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_9_6190.html
122 Post contains links Tooluther : Assume its Biden coming in... http://postgazette.com/pg/09181/980850-100.stm
123 Tarmacphotos : Yea I found out that is what it is. Looks like we will get to see AF2.
124 PITops : Looks like PIT is getting some diversions. Saw a few UA planes wrapped around C concourse and an extra DL plane sitting in the old NW gates.
125 PITops : Taken from the NYC Mess thread... JFK AA024 B763 SFO Div to Detroit B6 350 A320 BUR Div to Pittsburgh UA006 B752 SFO Div to Chicago LGA FL502 B717 MKE
126 Post contains links PITops : Big Weather Mess/diversions In The Making At NYC (by JustPlanes Jun 30 2009 in Civil Aviation)
127 Post contains links PITrules : I was hoping to get something exciting like the other day, but today wasn't really anything we don't normally see, except for the B6 A-320 from BUR. T
128 PITops : Yeah I was driving from our gates to landside and went behind the B6 A320. Was nice seeing it here.
129 Post contains images PITA333 : Oh boy... Looks like some big time changes to the PIT schedule for US Airways... can anyone confirm what on the wiki PIT site? * US Airways (Charlotte
130 PITops : I wouldn't be suprised if mainline CLT flights are being cut. US doesn't want mainline flights at all here.
131 BigBill : I checked the schedules, and the only thing that's ending is mainline LGA service, which is 1 mainline flight a day. Who cares. Somebody must have got
132 Tarmacphotos : FYI the Marines and Navy are having a flyover for the Regatta this weekend. I don't know any times or equipment yet. I am pretty sure it is for both S
133 PITops : Overnight: A slight chance of showers before 2am, then a slight chance of showers after 3am. Cloudy, with a low around 56. West wind around 6 mph. Ch
134 Pliersinsight : I regularly book flights for an associate to LAx from PIT on the US non-stop there and non-stop redeye back. 90% of the time, when I book the plane i
135 Pit : We were going to get one from LGB but we sent it to BUF. We couldn't handle anymore.
136 PITrules : Wow, that only leaves JetBlue E-190s as the only mainline service to all of NYC. There was a time when USAir had at least 25 mainline flights to all
137 PITA333 : I agree. Replacing one of the Q400s with a mainline could work out for CO if they do it around mid-afternoon for all the international connections (li
138 Tooluther : I've never been on a CO flight with any seats available. Come to think of it, I'm rarely on a hub flight for any of the majors (or FL) that isn't almo
139 Post contains links Steeler83 : Even on USAir? You aren't going to find me on a US flight (unless they offer the best fare/equipment out of PHL to my destination). Thank goodness fo
140 USPIT10L : That is being quoted from Wikipedia. This is NOT a reliable source for airline information. Someone is just having fun with us adjusting the posts at
141 PITops : Air Force 2 is in. Landed at about 14: 55. Me and Tarmacphotos were at the 28L approach to watch him come in. I have a video and he has the still phot
142 Tarmacphotos : Please ....the marked 752, that is! C-17 from McGuire was the support aircraft. This was a small teaser of what is to come in September.
143 NWADC9 : The perfect time to be 900 miles away in MCI...
144 Steeler83 : I should have known that... Neat! I can't wait to see!!
145 Kubus : PIT-LGA needs a mainline, or at least the 6PM LGA-PIT. Over the years I've seen it downgraded from 321, 734/3, 319 and now down to E170. I took this f
146 Tarmacphotos : Hopefully PITops can post the video. It was pretty overcast, so my pictures are not really worth publishing. I may get 1 up on my site though since i
147 Steeler83 : It would not surprise me if PIT-LGA mainline service goes away on US. When that time comes, I hope someone is there to pick up the slack. So someone
148 USPIT10L : Definitely true on CLT, US is minting money on that route, it's the only way to get anywhere in the South from here. LGA is debatable, but still, I'd
149 Tarmacphotos : I checked their booking website (I know not the most scientific method) for random dates next February and LGA is a mainline E190. I also checked LAS
150 Pliersinsight : A site I just checked out and is quite nice, imho. Love the reference to Damien's grave. I remember that lore from highschool, back in the day, growi
151 Tarmacphotos : Thank you! I also remember in highschool bringing girls to the cemetery at night and showing them Damian's grave. Fun times!
152 Pit : I believe that wiki is right. My unnamed sources are telling me that everythings goin regional. Even know the flights leave here full usair claims due
153 USPIT10L : What are your sources? I don't believe anything Wiki says with regard to routes until I see the schedules in print, either from a GDS system or a pre
154 Post contains links PITrules : The EAA's B-17 "Aluminum Overcast" will be at LBE Aug 7-9 http://www.eaa.org/calendar/eventdetail.aspx?id=4284
155 PITops : The fees will be going down I believe taking effect this month. Still going to be above tr national average but at least we are heading in the right
156 Post contains links PITops : Here you go... not the best video but you get the point haha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hadkX_EbB5g
157 USPIT10L : If it is true, then I hope OAG or a GDS has it loaded soon, so there's some proof. Maybe they need to a put an almost no-edit policy on airport infor
158 PITops : Or at least make it editable by only a few Wiki members and not everyone.
159 Tarmacphotos : So are you saying my US flight to LAS in November will be canceled on me? I'm also going to CLT direct mainline on September 2nd. I guess I'll be goi
160 FLYjoe : Don't buy into the all regional flights rumors until something is in writing. I wouldn't be shocked to see only mainline flights to CLT, PHX, and a co
161 Steeler83 : " target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hadkX...EbB5g DAAAAAAaaaamn!!! Sweet vid Luke! Ya! I posted that same response on youtube! I think the
162 PITops : Haha thanks. I have some good videos on there.
163 Steeler83 : Hey, I saw in another thread that UA had a mainline groundstop at ORD due to come computer malfunction. I know that UA has a few mainline flights into
164 PITA333 : They just called it quits on PIT-LGA about a month ago.
165 Steeler83 : Then US is all by itself on PIT-LGA, and if that is all-RJs, then someone needs to come in. I think that PIT-LGA would be grossly underserved with no
166 BigBill : I think they fly at least 7 or 8 flights a day to LGA mostly on Republic's E170's, but I agree that FL would be in its right mind to pick up the slac
167 USPIT10L : It appears US thinks E-jets like E170s and E190s are the right fit for their northeast markets. Despite ALPA's presumed rejections, maybe US has fina
168 Steeler83 : US is full of it IMO. That's why I try to avoid flying them as much as I can, and I live near PHL, the airline's money maker... A fee for picking a w
169 USPIT10L : Doesn't matter. If it makes money for them, they'll fly it. Otherwise, they'll pull out. I'm not an enthusiastic US backer anymore, but it is a busin
170 Tarmacphotos : FYI the B-17 Liberty Belle will be at AGC from July 18-19 if anyone wanted to see it or get a ride in it.
171 Atlanta : 1x 717 would kill US on that route, I think most people avoid RJ's as it is. US should at least have 320's to LGA. E-Jets are not "the right aircraft
172 Boeing727 : Not from a business perspective...the B717 is actually the pathetic one. Boeing727
173 USPIT10L : If the only thing they fly is 170s and 190s on the route, there's a reason. It doesn't matter what we "want" on a particular route.
174 Atlanta : True from a business perspective, but as a passenger, I would much prefer a 717 to a E-Jet. Well yes, too bad airlines don't listen to us There would
175 Flaps : Im no US backer and I certainly avoid them if at all possible. That said however, those Ejets would be a reason for me to stick with them not avoid th
176 Pit : 28L & 32 will be closed during daylight hours on 7/6 & 7/7
177 Steeler83 : You know, I'd have to agree actually. The CRJs are certainly nothing special, especially those CR2, aka tuna cans with wings, that DL (Comair) flies
178 PITops : What for?
179 Post contains links Tarmacphotos : I watched this being filmed today at the Voyager Ramp at AGC: Pittsburgh Companies Work Together For G-20 VIPs' Security, Transportation http://www.th
180 Tarmacphotos : I saw the unmarked DOJ MD-83 (con-air) come in today on 28C since the left side and 32 were still closed.
181 Jsposaune : Stay tuned...there may (or may not) be an announcement coming from a certain low-fare airline in the fairly near future regarding PIT. Nothing too ear
182 BigBill : That's not fair!! This is A.net spill the beans!! haha
183 BigBill : I have a feeling it has something to do with AirTran... just gut instinct. I hope its not that JetAmerica crap.
184 Steeler83 : Ummm... Uhhh... What is WN to offer LBE service! No, B6 to offer PIT-LBE -- with an A320!!! Ok seriously, I'm guessing it has to do with either WN or
185 BigBill : I think that FLL and RSW are year-round already, RSW only operates Saturdays though.
186 Steeler83 : Oh, ok then RSW becomes a few times weekly...
187 PITops : Doubt it will be WN. I would of posted something if I had heard rumors.
188 PITA333 : Me thinks that PIT-MKE on FL is in order!!!! .... Hey, a man can dream, cant he?
189 PITrules : Anything going on this week in Pittsburgh? The FBO seemed very busy today compared to usual, including a visit from a Saudi Medevac Gulfstream.
190 Tooluther : Looks like dreaming is not required from the new "AirTran grows a pair" thread. I love the title and the airline. Nice to see an additional way to co
191 BigBill : Agreed. I saw a post in the announcement thread that YX service to MKE in August will be up to 4x daily. Will there be enough business and connecting
192 Steeler83 : Yup. I was about to post that myself, and I didn't think too much of it either. I thought FL would have gone with other larger fish out of MKE, but e
193 USPIT10L : I think YX will win this one handily. They beat NW in 2005 with a similar schedule, while NWA had one flight a day on a CRJ. Granted it flew as a mid
194 Steeler83 : OOooh... You're probably right about that. I suppose if this was a larger O&D route out of PIT, then maybe it would work as most of the pax would lik
195 Jsposaune : Unless I'm missing something, the new FL flight leaves PIT @ 0730, arrives in MKE @ 0830-ish...seems conducive for business for me. The return flight
196 Pit : If no one was aware... USA3000 is leaving and apple vacations gave the contract to airtran.
197 Tarmacphotos : When does that start?
198 USPIT10L : Even though the timings are good, I doubt FL will stick around in the MKE market. First of all, YX has the local MKE traffic. How has FL done lately
199 Jsposaune : Mid December...the 19th, I believe. 2x weekly CUN and PUJ, 1x weekly MBJ...bookable through Apple Vacations.
200 Jsposaune : Maybe so...I suppose time will tell. Maybe someone more in tune with MKE and the YX situation can fill me in...how does the city in general feel abou
201 PITrules : So these will revert to traditional charters then, operated by AirTran - without the ability to buy tickets direct from AirTran like one was able to
202 PITA333 : As a student in MKE, I have seen the YX situation closer than most Pittsburghers on this thread. Milwaukeeans generally love YX, but feel that they h
203 Tarmacphotos : Looks like JBU181 an A320 fro JFK to SAN was diverted to PIT a little while ago. I wonder why? Doesn't look like weather.
204 USPIT10L : I'd say it's Milwaukeeans. Really? I would've thought FL became enemy #1 when they tried to do a hostile of YX. Knowing FL's quick entry and exits of
205 PITA333 : I thought FL would get poor reception among Milwaukeeans as well, however, I have seen a rather welcoming reception. Many Milwaukeeans are not please
206 Post contains links PITrules : FedEx warehouse approved in Findlay http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09190/982810-100.stm On airport land, but well away from the airfield; this might b
207 Steeler83 : I think it's very likely for FedEx Ground. It would have been neat if it was for FedEx Express/Freight (whatever their air division is), but alas, it
208 Post contains links PITrules : 911th air base to get new investment http://www.politicspa.com/PressRelease.aspx?PRID=46450 http://www.centredaily.com/news/state/story/1389301.html T
209 BigBill : Looks as if UA to DEN is going all-mainline in September. And one of them is a 757! So we'll have 757's to both ORD and DEN. And with the start of LAX
210 Post contains links Tarmacphotos : A Falcon 7X is here: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...J/history/20090711/1416Z/KCLE/KPIT
211 Steeler83 : According to their website, it looks like the number of mainline equipment goes down to 3x to ORD with a 757 and 2 737s, with the other 4 being E70s
212 N670UW : That schedule's not finalized. Look at the number of 737-500 frequencies built into that schedule (systemwide, not just Pittsburgh). There are far to
213 Pit : Medical emergency
214 Steeler83 : So I would imagine that the 735 flights would be replaced with an A319. I'm just curious, where are you getting your information? I wonder how many m
215 Post contains links Tarmacphotos : Article about the fee reductions at PIT: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...trib/news/pittsburgh/s_633129.html Article about disaster drill at PIT
216 Post contains links PITops : Event Recognizing NonStop Air Service From PIT to Paris Charles De Gaulle International Airport Full story... http://www.flypittsburgh.com/Event_R...e
217 Steeler83 : The link did not work, but I was able to access it via the flypittsburgh website. If anyone should be working at the airport, please get photos and/o
218 Post contains links PITops : http://www.flypittsburgh.com/Event_R...es_De_Gaulle_International_Airport
219 Tarmacphotos : Figures the make up media day is when I am going to be out of town. You better go and get some shots for me! BTW the B-17 Liberty Belle arrived at AG
220 PITops : Is that all?
221 Tarmacphotos : Yea its not Southwest...what do expect $99 fares?
222 Post contains links PITrules : Penrod pitches Pittsburgh air cargo hub idea to China http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2009/07/13/daily16.html
223 Steeler83 : " target=_blank>http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg....html I wonder what else he'll pitch to those airlines regarding costs at PIT...
224 PITops : That's not cheap enough!
225 Kubus : Are any of you planning on seeing the Liberty Belle at AGC on Sunday by any chance? Maybe we could have a little informal meet and great? If not, anyo
226 Pit : ahh, that was last week? Anyone going to the EAA AirVenture?
227 Tarmacphotos : I will be in Dayton from Thursday-Sunday so unfortunately I can not meet anyone. It sucks because I would have liked to meet some of you and given yo
228 Pit : I work at 2:00pm.
229 PITops : I'll be in Dayton for the airshow Saturday and back to work on Sunday... 0600-1430. I doubt I'll make it out.
230 Post contains links Tarmacphotos : I just posted my pics from the ride on Liberty Belle here: http://www.airshowbuzz.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6530 They will also be posted on my s
231 PITops : Nice pics. You can see the new arena in a couple.
232 NWADC9 : And the same day (and times) I have to be at CCAC for placement testing and advising! Maybe a rescheduling is in order? Seems like pitairport.com is
233 Steeler83 : Awesome pics TarmacPhotos! Thanks for sharing. That Consol Energy Center really is taking shape! You really don't get to look at the dramatic landscap
234 Tarmacphotos : Anyone go to the DL party today?
235 PITops : New thread... part 13 has started.
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