LY772 From Israel, joined Aug 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 2 Posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4432 times:
On any given weekday, there are X flights from Tel Aviv to New York and back. Here's a weekday schedule of those flights:
Tel Aviv to New York (by departure time in Tel Aviv)
12:05 AM, El Al to Newark (4x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
12:40 AM, Delta Airlines to JFK (6x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
1:00 AM, El Al to JFK (6x Weekly) - Boeing 747-400
10:40 AM, El Al to JFK (5x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
11:40 AM, Continental Airlines to Newark (7x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
11:50 PM, Continental Airlines to Newark (7x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
New York to Tel Aviv (by departure time in New York)
8:05 AM, El Al from Newark (4x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
9:35 AM, Continental from Newark (7x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
1:20 PM, El Al from JFK (6x Weekly) - Boeing 747-400
2:20 PM, Delta from JFK (6x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
4:15 PM, Continental from Newark (7x Weekly) - Boeing 777-200
5:15 PM, El Al from JFK (5x Weekly) - Boeing 747-400
That's 35 weekly flights between Tel Aviv and Delta in each direction.
Is there really room for 10,000 per week that fly between New York and Tel Aviv?
I'm not even counting other flights to North America such as U.S. Airways to Philadelphia, Air Canada and El Al to Toronto, and El Al to Los Angeles.
Obviously there is room for this because if there wasn't they wouldn't have so many flights...
This isn't really a question, I just want to open a discussion about it and hear what people think about this route, and if 35 weekly flights is justified.
Daviation From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4139 times:
I travel on this route at least once each year. In the past few years, I have used LY on their 777 service from EWR. However, when I made the reservation for my next travel on 6/29, LY was simply too expensive (perhaps the fares have since come down), so I chose the LH 747 service from EWR to TLV via FRA, which was one-half the cost. It will be my first trip on LH. By the way, every LY nonstop that I have been on was completely full, so there must be a big demand for these flights.
WorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3681 times:
NYC is the largest market for Israel. Not only is there a large and largely middle class Jewish population but Israel is a top tourist destination for Christians of which there is a substantial population in the US that travels. And of course there is also a Muslim travel base as well.
There are a few other gateway cities for Israel outside of NYC but the market is perhaps more heavily concentrated in NYC than any comparably sized market.
I know I was trying to show how big the demographic really is, besides the obvious Jewish concentrations in NYC there are huge bastions of Jewish Americans in Northern New Jersey, Rockland County, Westchester, Nassau, Suffolk Counties NY and Fairfield County Connecticut. Even Bucks County PA which is only an hours drive from EWR can include their large Jewish population into the catchment area.