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KLM Sells 15 F-100's, But To Who?  
User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6233 times:

According to a Dutch aviation website KLM today sold 15 Fokker 100's to an unidentified client. Who can it be?


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6164 times:

Perhaps a client from Libya or Iran?

Rgs,

User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6122 times:

Hmm, maybe.. what are the largest F100 operators at the moment? It sounds like all 15 go to the same company. Or a new lowcost carrier, like with Helvetic in the past?


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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4781 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6056 times:

I had the pleasure of flying an F100 operated by Air Bagan in Myanmar over xmas. Maybe them? They are looking to expand.

YOWza


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User currently offlineJlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6024 times:
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What is the average age of the F-100s still in service? Do any mainline carriers still have them in their fleets? Compared to other aircraft their size, how do they stack up efficiency wise? thanks John.


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User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 955 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6011 times:

According to Airfleets, KLC has 14 FK100's in service with 6 in storage, I though KL was keeping the FK100's?

So the future KLC fleets will be mostly Embraer and FK70 a/c?


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User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5898 times:

KL will keep 5 F100's. The rest will be F70 and E190/170


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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7171 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5754 times:

A few years ago, MX would have taken them very gladly for its subsidiary QA "Click". Now MX is also dumping its F100s in favor of 717s.


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User currently offlineWolbo From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 453 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5529 times:

Just a hunch that it might be Air Astana.

User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5140 times:

YX is taking these planes as a 717 replacement  Yeah sure

Sorry folks that was uncalled for.

Mark in MKE


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User currently offlineHSVflier From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5100 times:
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maybe air niugini replacing older birds?


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User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if at least some of them end up in Indonesia.

User currently offlineBen175 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

How about Skywest Australia? I guess you could call the F100 their "flagship" aircraft.

User currently offlineSXI899 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2008, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4663 times:



Quoting Ben175 (Reply 12):
How about Skywest Australia? I guess you could call the F100 their "flagship" aircraft.

Unlikely, as with the slowdown in the mining industry in WA they barely have enough work for their current fleet. Plus A320s are next on their list for when they start expanding again.

Quoting HSVflier (Reply 10):
maybe air niugini replacing older birds?



Quoting GFFgold (Reply 11):
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if at least some of them end up in Indonesia.

From what I've heard, they are destined for a single company in the Middle East or CIS, although not any of the countries companies already mentioned.

Yorden


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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4625 times:



Quoting Jlbmedia (Reply 4):
What is the average age of the F-100s still in service? Do any mainline carriers still have them in their fleets?

Not sure about other companies, but the F100 KL is selling now are some of the oldest F100s around, most of them built in 1989, with some younger ones.

The history of the birds is very diverse and some of them have seen a large variety of operators. Take this one for example, PH-OFK, stored at WOE since March 2009:


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The airframes have been originally delivered to Inter Canadian, Intair, Air Europe, KLM, Air Littoral, Midway airlines and TAM. The Midway and TAM frames are newer (1993-1995); possible that these are staying for a little longer.

User currently offlineJQflightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 878 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

how about Alliance here in Australia, in BNE they have a couple of old US Airways Fokkers... or what appears to be US Airways... i also saw one in PER parked on tuesday..


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User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4231 times:
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Quoting SXI899 (Reply 13):
From what I've heard, they are destined for a single company in the Middle East or CIS, although not any of the countries companies already mentioned

Do tell us who it is!


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User currently offlineAirbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4156 times:

I also heard it was something in the middle east, presumably Iran, and that there was a training deal involved too, that KLM cityhopper will train the crews for this airline.

KLC is keeping the 5 TAY 650 powered airframes, but rumor within the company has it that these will be sold too, doesn't make much sense to keep just 5 of them next to the E190's.

rgds

AB


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3728 times:



Quoting Wolbo (Reply 8):
Just a hunch that it might be Air Astana.



Quoting Airbuster (Reply 17):
presumably Iran

I agree with the above, Iran and Kazakhstan look like possible clients for KL F-100.

Rgs,

User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4598 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3728 times:



Quoting Airbuster (Reply 17):


KLC is keeping the 5 TAY 650 powered airframes, but rumor within the company has it that these will be sold too, doesn't make much sense to keep just 5 of them next to the E190's.

The F100 has a pretty impressive commonality with the 70's they are keeping, so would it really be that much more expensive?


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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9185 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3527 times:

In an effort to further irk its customers in Nigeria, Ghana and Kenya, DL will buy 15 Fokker F-100's from KL for use on some of its African routes. This move, in addition to eliminating any non-stop service on DL because of the numerous fuel stops necessary, will also raise the ire of these passengers as the only inflight entertainment will be an enhanced version of the safety briefing.  

Management has hinted that if these work out, the service may be upgraded to the DC-9s DL received in the merger with NW.  Wink  duck 

[Edited 2009-06-05 09:46:42]


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User currently offlineAirbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2562 times:

update from what i heard on the flight deck this week is that they are going to Jordan, apparently a new start up airline....


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