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DL Begins DTW-FCO Today  
User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 6040 times:

Today DL (by NW) is resuming Detroit-Rome route after 4 (or 5?) years hiatus, daily service with A-333 acft.
This is the 2nd new long-haul destination for Detroit inaugurated in a few days (Shanghai began just 4 days ago).
Does anyone know how are the loads looking? Is there a reason for being the only DL flight to Italy without codeshare with Alitalia?


(more)
Detroit Metro Airport Welcomes New Non-Stop Service to Rome
http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayRe...story/06-04-2009/0005038597&EDATE=

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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 5871 times:

They also start JFK-NRT today. Yesterday they started SLC-NRT and just recently started ATL-JNB. Exciting times at DL! Anyone have any info on loads?

Jeremy


User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 5871 times:

Wow, a lot of new flights and exciting times.
I am quite interested to know how they will do.


I neve thought that there would be a big enough market for SLC-NRT.

[Edited 2009-06-04 12:39:06]

[Edited 2009-06-04 12:39:38]


Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently offlineFavre From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 595 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months ago) and read 5761 times:

NW 50 4JUN DTW-FCO 24 C / 240 Y

NW 89 4JUN DTW-PVG 46 C / 331 Y



BAE 146 ARJ CV-580 YS-11 SH360 DASH8 SAAB340 EMB 120-135-145-175 DC9/10/30/40/50 MD80/90 DC10 717 727 737 747 757 767 77
User currently offlineDLSLC From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 88 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5617 times:

From what I have heard around the Valley here, the SLC-NRT has been doing great the past two days it has flown. Funny to say that now, but we will see how it goes. Everyone here is expecting and projecting it to do well. Just saw it take off a couple hours ago. Used an NW 330 today, hopefully we'll see a DL painted one soon.

User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5447 times:



Quoting DLSLC (Reply 4):
From what I have heard around the Valley here, the SLC-NRT has been doing great the past two days it has flown.

As far as I know, neither flight went full.

Quoting DLSLC (Reply 4):
Used an NW 330 today, hopefully we'll see a DL painted one soon.

Flight is operated with A330-200... none of them are in DL paint yet.


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5379 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 5):
As far as I know, neither flight went full.

And neither will go full. The plane is being cap restricted.



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5177 times:



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 6):
And neither will go full. The plane is being cap restricted.

Thanks for repeating the info I published on the boards  Wink

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/4399658


Regardless, the loads, thus-far, have both been below the weight restricted load.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9577 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4903 times:



Quoting Davescj (Reply 9):
What is operating NW/DL 820/821 (ATL -- FCO -- ATL)? I ask as I was on it 2 June. It was an A330 in DL paint. It was cool....being right on NW as the switch to BizElite happened (if the kit was the NW bad kit, was the great DL food).

DAL-N is doing:
ATL-AMS 333
ATL-FCO 333
ATL-LGW 333
ATL-HNL 744
ATL-NRT 744
SLC-NRT 332
JFK-FCO 333
DTW-FCO 333 *MOVED FOR CVG*

DAL-S is doing
DTW-LHR 764
EWR-AMS 763
PDX-AMS 763
PDX-NRT 763
AMS-BOM 763
NRT-GUM 763
MSP-CDG 763

Also Delta started this month
ATL-JNB 77L
SLC-NRT 332
JFK-NRT 77E
NRT-SGN 757*
DTW-FCO 333

*NRT-SGN broke a cargo record not once but 2 times in the same week. It is likely that this will be upgraded to 763 just for the cargo.  Wink



yep.
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9577 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4831 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 10):
Also Delta started this month
ATL-JNB 77L
SLC-NRT 332
JFK-NRT 77E
NRT-SGN 757*
DTW-FCO 333

forgot to add
PIT-CDG 75E



yep.
User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

N804NW (dressed in full DL livery) just after landing at FCO, completing flight NW 50 from Detroit.

Double click to enlarge the pic. 777 UA, 767 AA, 777 SQ are also visibile behind
http://www.adr.it/portal/content/FileAttach/adr/Photogallery/north2.jpg

www.adr.it/portal/portal/adr/Shadow/Comunicati/Header_Window?action=2


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4749 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 10):
*NRT-SGN broke a cargo record not once but 2 times in the same week.

What is the record it broke and how did it break it??


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9577 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4644 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 11):
What is the record it broke and how did it break it??

check PM

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 9):
forgot to add
PIT-CDG 75E

Also forgot to add DTW-PVG 744

try this again
DAL-N is doing:
ATL-AMS 333
ATL-FCO 333
ATL-LGW 333
ATL-HNL 744
ATL-NRT 744
SLC-NRT 332
JFK-FCO 333
DTW-FCO 333 *MOVED FOR CVG*

DAL-S is doing
DTW-LHR 764
EWR-AMS 763
PDX-AMS 763
PDX-NRT 763
AMS-BOM 763
NRT-GUM 763
MSP-CDG 763

Also Delta started this month
ATL-JNB 77L
SLC-NRT 332
JFK-NRT 77E
NRT-SGN 757*
DTW-FCO 333
DTW-PVG 744
JFK-DKR-ABV 75E (Starts 10)
JFK-PRG 763 (starts june 19)
JFK-ZRH 75E (starts June 8)
JFK-VLC 75E (starts June 5)
JFK-PAP 738 (starts June 20)
LAX-GRU 763 (starts June 30)

*broke cargo recored

Also July 1 LAX-SYD start 777-232LR.
I believe there will be a bunch of NRT changes (aircraft changes) are or have happened this month but not sure.



yep.
User currently offlineMastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

I took the inaugural SLC-NRT flight. I'd say the plane was about 80% full, and there were quite a few non-revs on the plane, a good portion of whom were upgraded to J. Salt Lake mayor Ralph Becker was on the flight along with a few people from the state government on a trade and tourism mission.

I have to admit I was disappointed with such a light load (even with non-revs) on the inaugural flight. Hopefully things become a bit fuller as the route develops.


User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3821 times:



Quoting MastaHanky (Reply 13):
I have to admit I was disappointed with such a light load (even with non-revs) on the inaugural flight. Hopefully things become a bit fuller as the route develops.

Any idea what the was on the return flight? Or do you still have to go back.
I take there was a nice welcome in NRT for the new route on arrival.



Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1187 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3669 times:



Quoting MastaHanky (Reply 13):
I took the inaugural SLC-NRT flight. I'd say the plane was about 80% full, and there were quite a few non-revs on the plane, a good portion of whom were upgraded to J.

As others have mentioned, the A332 on this route is payload restricted; it can only take 202 pax (or something like that) out of 243 which means the max possible load factor is not much above 80%.


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