Sobelair From Croatia, joined Sep 2000, 353 posts, RR: 1 Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 966 times:
Hi everybody. This is what was written today at airwise news internet site (www.airwise.com) about new airlines at Kuala Lumpur!
"...With three major airlines set to desert Kuala Lumpur's new Sepang airport this month the Malaysian showpiece has received a boost from the Middle East and China.
Qatar Airways is planning to inaugurate three flights a week to KLIA and Air China is studying the market with a view to starting services.
The country's Tourism Minister, Abdul Kadir Shiek Fadzir, told a press conference that he has met with Qatar Airways representives and they had indicated their interest.
Air China will look into the possibility of flying to Kuala Lumpur if the market is profitable, according to the carrier's supervisor for marketing development, Zhang Yue. The State-owned airline pulled out of Kuala Lumpur several years ago citing 'strategic reasons'.
The carrier will need government permission before any new flights go ahead. At the moment China Southern is the only other airline from the People's Republic flying to KLIA.
British Airways, Aeroflot and Japan's ANA are dropping services at Sepang this month. The airport has also seen the departure of major players such Qantas, Lufthansa and Ansett Australia...."
Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2916 posts, RR: 6 Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 900 times:
Correction again - ANA has NOT pulled out of KUL - it had merely realigned services from KIX to NRT-KUL...perhaps as MAS and NWA are now to cooperate in providing an airbridge between KIX and KUL for Trans-Pacific travellers. ANA is also boosting services by switching from the B767 to the B777.
Air China has never operated flights into KUL...perhaps for political reasons...but NWA and KLM are working hard with MAS to make KUL a major hub...and Air China is now a partner of NWA - so that is perhaps a reason for their interest.
OdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 892 times:
Well, Air China should have flown into KUL long time ago! Demand for Chinese travelers to Malaysia are on the rise. I know China Eastern operated charter services into Kuching, East Malaysia, but I have no idea whether this service is continues till today. They are planning to link their hub at SHA with KUL, but I think China Eastern was not allowed traffic rights into KUL due to political reason. MAS' services to SHA are doing very well, so much so that they need to upgrade their aircraft to B747, their initally planned 3 weekly B747 services, but due to great demand and shortage of aircraft, they used the A330 to make another weekly flights (odd arrival time into KUL, 12:45 am), making the total of 4 weekly flights. This represent an increase of about 23% in capacity. So, in my personal opinion, the KUL-SHA is a very successful route for MAS.
About Qatar Airways, well, they sure surprised the world when they ordered the A380. Now, a even more surprising news that they want to fly to KUL. Well, Doha is going to host the 2006 Asian Games, beating favorites Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur, so maybe this can justify this!
Mas777: Don't forget that KLM wants to be partner with China Southern as well. So which Chinese partner? Air China or China Southern? I don't think ANA boost its capacity into KUL by decreasing their frequency to thrice weekly. But I do agree that using NRT and a B777 is better for ANA.
I think NWA should provide airbridge between NRT-KUL instead of NRT-KUL. After all, NRT is NWA's hub in East Asia. What plans are in NWA to make KUL their hub when it is too far to have a nonstop service?
Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2916 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 872 times:
OdiE : "...Don't forget that KLM wants to be partner with China Southern as well. So which Chinese partner? Air China or China Southern?..." - you just answered your own question...'Wings' comes to my mind with KUL being integral in Asia.
NWA is already code-sharing with KLM on the AMS-KUL route and hopes to use MAS to feed Asian passengers into its network...but I'm not sure if the NWA/MAS partnership is working as well as the KLM/MAS one.
OdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 864 times:
Yeah, but NWA is partner with Air China and KLM wants parnter with China Southern! Not much of a integration there. Anyway, where did you find the NWA's flight code on KLM' AMS-KUL route? I tried to find it, but i failed.
Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2916 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 846 times:
NWA's flights numbers are listed on KLIA's own website and its online live schedule from KLIA.
KLM and NWA are trying hard to establish hubs in KUL and since NWA and Air China are partners - Air China is now keen to start flying into KUL which makes good cooperative sense. China Southern is already a major operator at KUL so KLM perhaps ought to look into working with China Southern also...