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EK Cabin Crew Molested On BOM Flight  
User currently offlineSq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1642 posts, RR: 20
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12776 times:

Heard about this, and just read it on my Google ticker. Apparently a man had too much to drink and started fondling the crew serving him during the meal service. Don't know the full story apart from a little blurb I heard from a friend during galley gossip, but while inappropriate talking, looking and sometimes even touching happens pretty often, it usually does lead to an arrest on arrival unless it really is warranted. So this must have been a pretty bad case. When will these fools learn, don't drink more than you can handle, and don't mess with crew (or anyone else)!

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1261900


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User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12352 times:

Bet he wouldn't have done that on a RUH bound SV flight! Big grin

User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1707 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12334 times:



Quoting Boeing747_600 (Reply 1):

Now if it was an SV flight from RUH, maybe he would!


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3712 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12308 times:



Quoting Boeing747_600 (Reply 1):
Bet he wouldn't have done that on a RUH bound SV flight! Big grin



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 2):
Now if it was an SV flight from RUH, maybe he would!

And if he did, would he be able to say "Look Ma, no hands!"  duck 



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User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 11370 times:

Crews need to start implementing their self defense training... I'm sure a palm to the fact or a kick to the groin would have changed this man's mind quite quickly...


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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8587 times:

Seriously, I still haven't gotten over the guy jerking off on an Indigo flight.


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User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8458 times:

Guess it was a case of "Just Do It!"

Curious, what were the nationalities involved?


User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2381 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7911 times:
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Quoting Sq_ek_freak (Thread starter):
When will these fools learn, don't drink more than you can handle, and don't mess with crew (or anyone else)!

Amateurs don't know that up there due to different O2 environment your second glass can "kill" you, whil on earth you could have easily handled 6 of them!



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User currently offlinePylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7526 times:

"The accused, identified as Harun Salaam, hails from Jalna district of Maharashtra and works in Dubai."

It's from the article.
So he was local - no story in terms of forum's sensibility to ethnicity issues.


User currently offlineElcableguy77 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 523 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7459 times:



Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 4):
Crews need to start implementing their self defense training... I'm sure a palm to the fact or a kick to the groin would have changed this man's mind quite quickly...

I can't speak for other airlines, but I can say that most US-based carriers do have some sort of basic self-defense course as part of their initial and recurrent flight attendant training. That said, there is a more intensive course offered to crew members for free by the TSA that takes place over a day or two. I get memos about them on a regular basis.



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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7321 times:



Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 9):
I can't speak for other airlines, but I can say that most US-based carriers do have some sort of basic self-defense course as part of their initial and recurrent flight attendant training. That said, there is a more intensive course offered to crew members for free by the TSA that takes place over a day or two. I get memos about them on a regular basis.

The last course I had (but this was during recurrent with my airline, taught by someone in my airline) taught us to try to avoid getting hit but not to hit back, unless the situation is life or death, we're not to touch the pax. Here's a good one too, we were also told if we turned our bodies sideways, we would be a smaller target. Maybe things have changed, this has been a few years ago.



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User currently offline777Heaven From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6797 times:

I remember a couple of years back taking a flight out to Greece. It was an early morning departure which was unusually full of the typical lager louts who were sat around families.

During boarding one of them decided to touch me up i heard sniggering, my biggest mistake that day was not informing my Cabin Manager straight away. During secure for take off one of them indecently exposed himself to one of the other crew so after take off she reported it to the Manager, i was felt up again mid flight and my manager reported them to the captain and also went to where they were sat (a group of 20) and gave the culprits a chance to own up and sternly reminded them that they were onboard an aircraft and the police would meet the flight if the behaviour didnt stop. It didnt.

We landed at our destination and they were taken away by the authorities. All 20 were refused carriage back with any British airline.Three days later they were kicked out of the Tour operators hotel (why they were allowed there in the first place astounds me) and then after paying full price for a ticket on an unnamed Greek carrier, they had to make their own way home as no British airline would carry them.

More reporting and people knowing the consequences of their actions needs to be advertised heavily. The crew are not on board a flight to be trated in such an ugly manner and to be spoken to the way we are sometimes, They are there first and foremost for everybodys safety.


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1907 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5621 times:
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They should have a special air lock, with a trap door behind it, in the back of the plane for these kinds of people. Or add some stun-guns to the inflight restraining kit.


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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4448 times:



Quoting Pylon101 (Reply 8):
"The accused, identified as Harun Salaam, hails from Jalna district of Maharashtra and works in Dubai."

you mean "worked" in Dubai....  drunk 



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User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4352 times:



Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 13):
Quoting Pylon101 (Reply 8):
"The accused, identified as Harun Salaam, hails from Jalna district of Maharashtra and works in Dubai."

you mean "worked" in Dubai.... drunk

Poor guy. Maybe he thought it was part of EK's onboard service? Wish he'd written up a TR for us...


User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2381 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4328 times:
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Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 9):
I can't speak for other airlines, but I can say that most US-based carriers do have some sort of basic self-defense course as part of their initial and recurrent flight attendant training. That said, there is a more intensive course offered to crew members for free by the TSA that takes place over a day or two. I get memos about them on a regular basis.

Same with many mayor european airlines. Most of them grant their FAs the right to defend themselves .... according to EU jurisdiction it's OK for cabin crews to punch or slap a pax that is sexualy touching or molesting them if the crews have training in self-defence sports (jui jutsu, etc.) and can proove that such defence actions are based "on their reflexes" ...

[Edited 2009-06-06 12:25:57]


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User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4294 times:



Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 12):
Or add some stun-guns to the inflight restraining kit.

I actually think that's not a bad idea... Pepper Spray obviously wouldn't work but tasers would probably work quite well since lets face it, no amount of training is going to allow two petite female F/As to restrain a 300 pound man going on a rampage inside the cabin...



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