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EK's A380s To Operate DXB-CDG From Jan 1  
User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1485 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6502 times:

Flights EK 073 and EK074 will be operated by the A380 starting in January next year.

I am sure the A380 will be much appreciated by French travellers, especially those who intend to use DXB as a gateway for destinations futher East:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...-emirates-to-serve-paris-with-a380

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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6445 times:

This is maybe an answer to AF's decision to use its A380 on CDG-DXB-CDG, at least for the first weeks of operations ...

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6422 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1):
This is maybe an answer to AF's decision to use its A380 on CDG-DXB-CDG, at least for the first weeks of operations ...

This is major news, thanks for sharing. At least KLM remains protected since EK has not indicated any movement towards starting DXB-AMS which remains 100% KLM territority with 11 weekly flights.

Rgs,


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6409 times:

After Singapore , Emirates and Air France , the fourth airline to use the A380 at CDG , will be Korean Air.The fifth will probably be Thai.

User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6340 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 2):
At least KLM remains protected since EK has not indicated any movement towards starting DXB-AMS which remains 100% KLM territory with 11 weekly flights.

I think it's just a matter of time before EK start service to AMS. Then KLM would be forced to cut back to 7x weekly service to DXB.

Quoting FCKC (Reply 3):
After Singapore , Emirates and Air France , the fourth airline to use the A380 at CDG , will be Korean Air.The fifth will probably be Thai.

I agree about KE, but do you really think TG will take delivery? It seems unlikely to me. I expect TG to convert their WhaleJet orders to A350 orders.


User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6130 times:



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 4):


Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 2):
At least KLM remains protected since EK has not indicated any movement towards starting DXB-AMS which remains 100% KLM territory with 11 weekly flights.

I think it's just a matter of time before EK start service to AMS. Then KLM would be forced to cut back to 7x weekly service to DXB.

As far as I know not one of the Middle Eastern carriers has expressed intrest of starting operations in AMS. Too little O&D traffic. Around 70% of KLM pax are transfer passangers.
Only Iran Air, Royal Jordanian, Egyptair and Syrian Arlines fly here The last 2 twice weekly. The other 2 are no big threat to KLM.

It will be awhile before the big ones come here.

Back to topic, will all the carriers with A380's go to the new terminal in CDG?



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7571 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6114 times:



Quoting FCKC (Reply 3):
fourth airline to use the A380 at CDG , will be Korean Air.

Very nice.  Smile Any idea about the time for delivery of the first A380s to KE and the possible time of launch of CDG A380 service?



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User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6054 times:



Quoting DALCA (Reply 5):
Back to topic, will all the carriers with A380's go to the new terminal in CDG?

I think they will have to as it is the only terminal allowing boarding with two levels.



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13012 posts, RR: 100
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5996 times:
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Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1):
This is maybe an answer to AF's decision to use its A380 on CDG-DXB-CDG, at least for the first weeks of operations ...

Must be. From what I've been reading on threads, CDG is not a high premium market. Others have speculated the profit was hauling the cargo.

I wonder if the 2nd DXB-CDG flight will really remain a 77E. This capacity shift might force a downsize to an A332. (Speculation on my part.) I also wonder about the economics of hauling around the crew rest. When is EK expected to recieve the first of the A388's with F class but no crew rest? Is it before or after the regional configurations?

I notice this flight leaves Dubai at 08:00! Wow... I would have thought an earlier departure as part of the 1st hub-wave. I guess connections would just wander around DXB for hours. I do notice the return time to DXB is excellent for connections though...

Which begs the OT question, how is the new Terminal/Concourse during the primary connective hub-wave? Does it feel empty outside of the 1st and 2nd hub-waves?

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
Any idea about the time for delivery of the first A380s to KE and the possible time of launch of CDG A380 service?

I second this question. When is KE scheduled to receive their first A388's now? CDG, LHR, JFK, NRT, and LAX seem like the obvious first routes for KE (not in any particular order).

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5945 times:



Quoting DALCA (Reply 5):
Back to topic, will all the carriers with A380's go to the new terminal in CDG?



Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 7):
I think they will have to as it is the only terminal allowing boarding with two levels.

 no 

SQ is operating its daily A380 from the "old" CDG1


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8534 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5846 times:
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Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1):
This is maybe an answer to AF's decision to use its A380 on CDG-DXB-CDG, at least for the first weeks of operations ...

- Do we know when the A380 will be loaded into the system? - looking to get on it..........



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11434 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5707 times:
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What's the current EK operation into CDG ? 773 + 772 ?


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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5537 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
What's the current EK operation into CDG ? 773 + 772 ?

Yes you are right. EK 73/74 is mostly on 773, while EK 75/76 is 773 or 772


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5416 times:



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 4):
I think it's just a matter of time before EK start service to AMS. Then KLM would be forced to cut back to 7x weekly service to DXB.



Quoting DALCA (Reply 5):
s far as I know not one of the Middle Eastern carriers has expressed intrest of starting operations in AMS. Too little O&D traffic. Around 70% of KLM pax are transfer passangers.

Garuda is looking to relaunch European services with A330 flight JKT-DXB-AMS.


User currently offlineToptravel From Italy, joined Oct 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5330 times:

I see EK is bringing the 380 into Rome daily starting January 1st also. That means I'll be able to fly 380 from FCO/SYD/FCO. Thank you EK, it's sure a nice ride

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19214 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5320 times:



Quoting AirIndia (Reply 12):
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
What's the current EK operation into CDG ? 773 + 772 ?

Yes you are right. EK 73/74 is mostly on 773, while EK 75/76 is 773 or 772

073/074 is by 77W and 075/076 varies between 773/772.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 10):
- Do we know when the A380 will be loaded into the system? - looking to get on it..........

Already in EK's timetable, so presumably in its booking system.



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User currently offlineAirlittoral From France, joined Sep 2006, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5182 times:

Is EK going to use this as a justification of the high premium they charge on Y and J fares compared to AF?  Yeah sure
"oh yes, we're more expensive than everyone else but it's because we have (insert applicable) more recent plane/better IFE/hotter FAs (not true!)/unique service/showers(sic)...."

Seriously...


User currently offlineEkskycargo370 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4931 times:

FCO will be another destination added to EK's A380 network

User currently offlineGoodbye From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 913 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4931 times:

Damn you Emirates! I'm flying the EK074 route in October - with the 777-300ER  Sad

User currently offlinePlanetime From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4880 times:



Quoting Ekskycargo370 (Reply 17):
FCO will be another destination added to EK's A380 network

Quite possible. Not sure on how EK does their deciding. I wonder if they will put it back on the JFK route. Does anyone have any clues to that?


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

Soon EK will bring 380s to Nice. They will make an awesome sight at take-off and landing.
Then there will be the "Flying Palace". Mr Bin Talal likes the Riviera. He visits here often.
Nice is such a scenic airport, even watching them from a distance will be interesting!

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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

KE at CDG with A380 , not before the beginning of 2010.

They will open LAX first , then CDG.


Zvezda

I am pretty sure TG will NOT cancel their A380 order , but will defer the delivery.
They already expressed their intention to buy A350XWBs.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19214 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4726 times:



Quoting Planetime (Reply 19):
Quoting Ekskycargo370 (Reply 17):
FCO will be another destination added to EK's A380 network

Quite possible.

380 on FCO is confirmed and starts at 3x weekly from 2nd Dec and rises to 7x weekly on the 1st Jan

ICN is 7x weekly from 1st Dec.

Quoting Planetime (Reply 19):
I wonder if they will put it back on the JFK route.

It wasn't performing satisfactorily on JFK, hence stopped. It could perhaps go back at some point, but I doubt it. YYZ became a 380 route instead, operating 3x weekly.



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2699 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4723 times:



Quoting FCKC (Reply 21):
KE at CDG with A380 , not before the beginning of 2010.

Hmm??? Was this a quote? I think "beginning of 2010" is not possible. Acc. to http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list they will receive their first A380 in Q3 of 2010. Just for comparison - LH will receive their first A380 at the beginning of 2010 and two of them are already in the FAL. Parts of KE's first plane are already built but not yet in TLS.
But I am sure you know all this.


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4542 times:



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 4):
Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 2):
At least KLM remains protected since EK has not indicated any movement towards starting DXB-AMS which remains 100% KLM territory with 11 weekly flights.

I think it's just a matter of time before EK start service to AMS. Then KLM would be forced to cut back to 7x weekly service to DXB.

I'm sure it will happen soon. KL is pricing itself out of the market. MAny of my clients already take EK from DUS or EY from BRU.

Quoting DALCA (Reply 5):
As far as I know not one of the Middle Eastern carriers has expressed intrest of starting operations in AMS. Too little O&D traffic. Around 70% of KLM pax are transfer passangers.

That's the point. KLM passengers stop at DXB, no connections. EK can get them from AMS to anywhere in the world.


25 Varig md-11 : And the lousy detail about SQ at CDG1 is that for now the 2 airbridges connect the plane to only the lower deck...the upper deck is not connected to
26 BA319-131 : - No, I'm talking about the AF 380, not EK.
27 DALCA : Why would KLM transfer them in DXB if they fly to 75% of the world ex AMS. What they don't fly directly ex AMS they do via codeshare, eg MH.
28 LondonCity : According to emirates.com EK will start flying the A380s 4 x weekly starting December 2. There will be A380 flights operating EK97 + EK98 every Wedne
29 Pe@rson : Ah, yes. I put 3x rather than 4x. Well spotted. I did put:
30 YOWza : Partially in response to this QR have announced that DOH-CDG will go double daily from Ocotber 25th. YOWza
31 Lightsaber : Wow! That is quite an armada of A380's. I'm pleasantly surprised CDG will ramp up that quickly. No doubt post-AZ. However, what is EK's current bilat
32 MogandoCI : Comparing that 2-3-2 so-called J on AF and the 3-4-3 on AF's 77W sardine express to EK's 2-4-2 J on A388 (but essentially a bi-directional 1-2-1) and
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