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User currently offlineFab747 From France, joined Jun 2008, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 9053 times:
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I just saw via the media that a Jetstar A330 from Japan to the Gold Coast Australia had a cockpit fire and was diverted to the island of Guam. Any news of what caused it? Those A330's are making a bit of headline lately.


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User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9003 times:



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smoke was seen in the cockpit and moments later the right-hand cockpit window caught fire.

A Jetstar A332 presume that it was the heated windscreen.

Source : Here



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User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8671 times:

I not that JQ is sending another A332 to pick up passengers anf fly them to BNE. I am curious why they are not flying them to their original destination of OOL. Not a good PR time for the Airbus A330

And from the ATSB


In-flight windscreen fire in an Airbus A330 aircraft en route from Osaka, Japan to Coolangatta, Australia
11 June 2009

At approximately 0400 Eastern Standard Time today the Australian Transport Safety Bureau was notified of a in-flight windscreen fire in an Airbus A330 aircraft that was en route from Osaka, Japan to Coolangatta, Australia.

The incident occurred at about 0220 and the flight crew diverted to Guam where the 13 crew and 185 passengers disembarked safely. There are no reported injuries.

The ATSB has commenced an investigation in accordance with International Civil Aviation Organization Annex 13 on the understanding that the event took place over international waters. The ATSB has notified the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and the French Bureau dEnquêtes et dAnalyses pour la sécurité de laviation civile (BEA).

A team of investigators including operations, electrical engineer and licensed aircraft maintenance engineer will travel to Guam this morning to commence the investigation.

Any further inquiries should be directed to the ATSB on 1800 020 616.



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User currently offlineAviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1351 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8650 times:

How exactly does a window catch fire?


Sounds like a window overheat scenario. Not terribly unusual.



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User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8378 times:

The plane is VH-EBF.

Window catching fire would be something going wrong with the transparency de-ice feature, wouldn't it?


User currently offlineQFMel From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8289 times:

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User currently offlineDavidByrne From New Zealand, joined Sep 2007, 1633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8271 times:



Quoting Aviateur (Reply 3):
How exactly does a window catch fire?

Sounds like a window overheat scenario. Not terribly unusual.

I note from your profile that you're a 767 first officer - can you provide any reassurance to those of us who just fly as pax and who absolutely don't comprehend that our plane catching fire mid-flight is "not terribly unusual"?



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User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7943 times:

Im not Aussie but is there not a train from BNE Airport to OOL ???

User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 747 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7873 times:



Quoting Cospn (Reply 7):
Im not Aussie but is there not a train from BNE Airport to OOL ???

Yes http://www.airtrain.com.au/


User currently offline777DAD From Germany, joined Aug 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7764 times:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nding-Pacific-Island.html?ITO=1490
Hope this helps a little.
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User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7633 times:



Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 9):
Quoting Cospn (Reply 7):
Im not Aussie but is there not a train from BNE Airport to OOL ???

Yes http://www.airtrain.com.au/

NO! The airtrain serves Brisbane Airport only. This is why I thought it odd that the flight ended up in BNE. You would think the least they would do is fly the passengers to the right destination



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User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 747 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7520 times:



Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 11):
NO! The airtrain serves Brisbane Airport only. This is why I thought it odd that the flight ended up in BNE. You would think the least they would do is fly the passengers to the right destination

It goes to 4 gold coast stations, probably closer to the hotels the pax are staying at than OOL and if I was looking after the pax I would include complemetary taxis to their hotels.


User currently offlineJetstar315 From Australia, joined Sep 2007, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7486 times:
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The aircraft is going to BNE as it's due there approx 0100 tomorrow morning and OOL has a curfew from around 2230. Coaches are booked and will take passengers on to OOL.

User currently offlineThePalauan From Guam, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7287 times:

She was parked at gate 10 today and it caught me off guard when I walked into work. I spotted QF cans at the baggage piers and was taken aback until I went outside to find her there. The Pacific Daily News sent out a text alert to all subscribers about an emergency plane landing due to cockpit fire and sure enough, the CO ground agents were somewhat abuzz since we rarely get those kinds of visitors here.


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User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7107 times:



Quoting DavidByrne (Reply 6):

I note from your profile that you're a 767 first officer - can you provide any reassurance to those of us who just fly as pax and who absolutely don't comprehend that our plane catching fire mid-flight is "not terribly unusual"?

I think the point was exactly as it was said - how does the window itself catch fire.  Wink


User currently offlinePlaneWasted From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6638 times:

Swedish media reports it as "New accident with the disaster plane".  Yeah sure
The connector for the power feeding for the window heating was the part that overheated.


User currently offlineOldtimer From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

I noticed htis made headline news as usual but very little interest in the AA64 fire in the lav ceiling, also causing a diversion, because this was a B767-300 and not newsworthy. From my experience, a fire in the lav is a lot more dangerous than windscreen arcing either through delam or loose power connection.


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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8849 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4081 times:



Quoting Oldtimer (Reply 16):
I noticed htis made headline news as usual but very little interest in the AA64 fire in the lav ceiling, also causing a diversion, because this was a B767-300 and not newsworthy. From my experience, a fire in the lav is a lot more dangerous than windscreen arcing either through delam or loose power connection.

Very true, when QF had a similar problem on the captains 744 windscreen a few months back, nothing really came of that either.



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User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3968 times:



Quoting Oldtimer (Reply 16):
I noticed htis made headline news as usual but very little interest in the AA64 fire in the lav ceiling, also causing a diversion, because this was a B767-300 and not newsworthy. From my experience, a fire in the lav is a lot more dangerous than windscreen arcing either through delam or loose power connection.

The incident got reported here in DEN on the 9news website, not sure if it was on the actual tv broadcast as I don't watch local news channels normally, as JQ doesn't fly anywhere near Denver, I can only assume they picked it up off the wire as OMG it was the same aircraft type as the Air France incident. i.e. any A330 incident for the next while will be big news, yet most other issues with non A330 aircraft will be ignored.

Sad to see it this way as I have learned on my time here so many things that are big drama for the news channels are almost boring daily occurances (the avherald website shows this well).

On a lighter side, regarding the 763 lav fire, now we know why we don't smoke in the lav and listen to the FAs  Smile.


User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3937 times:

The Plane is now in the Cape Air - ACI Hanger in Guam , so the Aussie Investigators are really looking into it so Im sure well have an anser soon...

User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2414 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3920 times:



Quoting Oldtimer (Reply 16):
I noticed htis made headline news as usual but very little interest in the AA64 fire in the lav ceiling, also causing a diversion, because this was a B767-300 and not newsworthy. From my experience, a fire in the lav is a lot more dangerous than windscreen arcing either through delam or loose power connection.

Nobody was hurt or got killed. Makes for boring news.  irked 



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User currently offlineJgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3662 times:

I'm really surprised how much attention this is getting, from being one of the "top stories" on the CNN website earlier to to the ATSB showing up today. I can't help but think a lot of it is merely because it's the same type as the air france plane.

User currently offline413x3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3388 times:



Quoting Jgarrido (Reply 21):
I can't help but think a lot of it is merely because it's the same type as the air france plane.

that's exactly it. the shock jock media can't wait to capture the attention of short attention span viewers who still remember the Air France crash


User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

"Nothing to see here, folks, let's move along!"

Scary for the people on the flight, yes. Problem with the A330, no.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6516 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3297 times:



Quoting Zeke (Reply 17):
Very true, when QF had a similar problem on the captains 744 windscreen a few months back, nothing really came of that either.

Because a 744 (or in the more recent case, 763) didn't just crash. You know as well as I do that any incident with the A330 will continue to make the news, rightfully or wrongly, for the time being.


25 QFMel : Think it's unsurprising- but more of a stretch than would usually be the case- that Steve Purvinas of ALAEA has tried to link the cockpit fire to purp
26 TheAirlineBlog : I think most of the media picks up any airline incidents that happen. So many people talk about airline accidents happening in "threes" but I think i
27 Cospn : 9:39 a.m. - JetStar plane that made emergency landing has left Guam Pacific Daily News The JetStar plane that made an emergency landing at the Guam in
28 Aviateur : The plane didn't "catch fire". It was a windscreen anti-ice malfunction with a temporary and localized fire that was quickly extinguished. Inflight f
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