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Midwest Airlines New Service Announcements  
User currently offlineMidEx717 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 132 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7044 times:

If you are a manager, please communicate this information to employees
without e-mail in a timely manner, and in a way that is effective for your
work group (i.e. shift briefings, mailbox distribution, one-on-one,
bulletin boards).


To: All Midwest and Skyway Employees
Date: June 11, 2009
From: T.E. Hoeksema
Subject: New Service Announcements

I am pleased to share the news of several service announcements we are
making today. We will resume nonstop service between Milwaukee and both Los
Angeles and Louisville, and add frequency between Milwaukee and
Indianapolis. We are also announcing the timing of our seasonal schedule
between Milwaukee and Ft. Myers.

Daily nonstop service between Milwaukee and Los Angeles will begin Aug. 1,
with service offered aboard a new Embraer 190 configured with 10 extra-wide
leather Signature seats and 84 leather Saver seats.

Twice-daily nonstop Louisville service will begin Aug. 2, and a fourth
daily nonstop flight to Indianapolis takes off July 7. Both will be offered
on 37-seat Embraer 135 aircraft.

In addition, we will resume our popular seasonal service to Ft. Myers
beginning Nov. 19 and continuing through April 19, 2010. That service will
be operated on 76-seat Embraer 170 aircraft.

We continue to stay close to our customers to provide what they want in
terms of enhanced service options to a variety of markets. As we make
progress on our restructuring plan, to be able to make this announcement in
conjunction with our anniversary acknowledges the great service you have
provided and the customers who have supported us for the past 25 years.

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User currently offlinePitintl From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 88 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7016 times:

Looks like the new SDF and extra IND segments are the reposition the aircraft for Maintenance. Hope these new routes work out for YX.


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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6992 times:

Regarding MKE-LAX.
Can you make money flying 94 passengers (if you're full) that far with $70 oil?


User currently offlinePilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6948 times:

YX press release from midwestairlines.com


Midwest Airlines Resumes Nonstop Service to Los Angeles and Louisville

Milwaukee, June 11, 2009 – Midwest Airlines today said it will resume nonstop service between Milwaukee and both Los Angeles and Louisville, Ky. It also announced additional service between Milwaukee and Indianapolis, as well as the resumption of its seasonal schedule between Milwaukee and Ft. Myers, Fla.

Daily nonstop service between Milwaukee and Los Angeles will begin Aug. 1, with service offered aboard an Embraer 190 configured with 10 extra-wide leather Signature seats and 84 leather Saver seats. The Midwest Class seating option combines the airline’s award-winning service and onboard amenities with two choices of seating in the same coach cabin. Buy-onboard Best Care Cuisine meals and baked-onboard chocolate chip cookies will also be available.

Twice-daily nonstop Louisville service will begin Aug. 2, and a fourth daily nonstop flight to Indianapolis takes off July 7. Both will be offered on 37-seat Embraer 135 aircraft.

Midwest recently entered into air service agreements with Republic Airways to operate the E190s and E135s for this service.

In addition, the airline announced it will resume its popular seasonal service to Ft. Myers beginning Nov. 19 and continuing through April 19, 2010. That service will be operated on 76-seat Embraer 170 aircraft.

For flight information and reservations, visit midwestairlines.com, call the Midwest Airlines Contact Center at 800-452-2022 (in Milwaukee, 414-570-7000), or contact a travel consultant.

“We continue to stay close to our customers to provide what they want in terms of enhanced service options to a variety of markets,” Midwest chairman Timothy E. Hoeksema wrote in a message to employees marking the airline’s 25th anniversary. “As we make progress on our restructuring plan, to be able to make this announcement in conjunction with our anniversary acknowledges the customers who have supported us for the past 25 years.”


Midwest Airlines features jet service throughout the United States, including Milwaukee’s most daily nonstop flights and best schedule to major destinations. Catering to business travelers and discerning leisure travelers, the airline earned its reputation as “The best care in the air” by providing passengers with impeccable service and onboard amenities at competitive fares.


User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1149 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6922 times:



Quoting Pilotfox (Reply 3):
Milwaukee, June 11, 2009 – Midwest Airlines today said it will resume nonstop service between Milwaukee and both Los Angeles

What does this mean for NW/DL on this route? Will they quit it or do they feel they still need to be on this route?



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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6831 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 4):
What does this mean for NW/DL on this route? Will they quit it or do they feel they still need to be on this route?

I was wondering the same thing. Seems like they would be competing against themselves.


User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6522 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 2):
Regarding MKE-LAX.
Can you make money flying 94 passengers (if you're full) that far with $70 oil?

That's the first thing I thought when I read this. Perhaps its an indication that their other options are no great shakes either.

[Edited 2009-06-11 10:28:18]

User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1209 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6512 times:

Which YX employees get this memo? Are there any left that care? Shouldn't they just change the name to Republic and get it over with?

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6438 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 4):
What does this mean for NW/DL on this route? Will they quit it or do they feel they still need to be on this route?

Probably stick an MD90 on the route and tell folks "'Fly us 'cause we have a bigger bird
then they do".
Thats what will probably happen.
The Northwest RJ's out of MKE a few years ago to compete with Midwest flopped. Now try the "mines
bigger" game.
safe



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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3129 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6379 times:

Just wondering... how many routes in the US does a ERJ-135 fly profitably? From everything I have heard about this aircraft it is very difficult to make money with - and MKE-SDF sounds like someone is trying to scare off WN once they start up MKE... maybe not though? Anyone else find a ERJ-135 a weird choice if youre trying to make money?

'902



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1551 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6129 times:

A couple questions:

Are they using both E190s just on MKE-LAX? That could be 3 or 4 flights a day if they are.

And out of the 12 ERJs they are going to get, What is the split between 145 and 135?



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User currently offlineOswegobag From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5989 times:

You think there is any chance of Midwest expanding to other cities further east? How about BUF? I would love to see them here.

User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5831 times:



Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 7):
Which YX employees get this memo?

I thought of the exact same question when I saw the original post.

Seriously, does anyone know how many employees Midwest will have with all the 717s gone?


User currently offlinePhxmkeflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5684 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 8):
Probably stick an MD90 on the route and tell folks "'Fly us 'cause we have a bigger bird
then they do".
Thats what will probably happen.
The Northwest RJ's out of MKE a few years ago to compete with Midwest flopped. Now try the "mines
bigger" game.
safe

What? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, NW/DL operate the MKE-LAX route right now with an A320, why would they put an MD90 on the route?

And the mentality of "fly us 'cause we have a bigger bird" is absurd, all people care about right now is price, they could give a hoot how big the plane is. And also, since NW did not do all that great with their MKE focus city attempt a couple years ago with RJ's, why in the world would they stick larger planes on routes where RJ's failed, if they were to hypotheically try again to make MKE a focus city?


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23308 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5659 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 8):
The Northwest RJ's out of MKE a few years ago to compete with Midwest flopped. Now try the "mines bigger" game.

The timing of NW's announcement of MKE-LAX suggests to me that they only flew it because YX wasn't flying it nonstop. This time around, it really wasn't about competing with YX (FWIW, the n/s flight probably benefited both YX and NW).

Quoting FL787 (Reply 10):
And out of the 12 ERJs they are going to get, What is the split between 145 and 135?

I believe every 145 on property is operating for another carrier. There are 2 140s that were WFU from the AA operation, and those are presumably available, but my guess is the rest will be 135s (unless STL is reduced further).



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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5553 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 10):
And out of the 12 ERJs they are going to get, What is the split between 145 and 135?



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):
I believe every 145 on property is operating for another carrier. There are 2 140s that were WFU from the AA operation, and those are presumably available, but my guess is the rest will be 135s (unless STL is reduced further).

It was stated in the other thread that there will be only one 135, the rest 145.



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User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1209 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5401 times:



Quoting Oswegobag (Reply 11):
You think there is any chance of Midwest expanding to other cities further east? How about BUF? I would love to see them here.

Doesn't Republic already fly to BUF?


User currently offline146crew From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5244 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):
I believe every 145 on property is operating for another carrier. There are 2 140s that were WFU from the AA operation, and those are presumably available, but my guess is the rest will be 135s (unless STL is reduced further).

I believe some will come from the CO operation as that contract starts to wind down.



Cross check complete.
User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3003 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5179 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 2):
Can you make money flying 94 passengers (if you're full) that far with $70 oil?

It seems JetBlue does with this same aircraft at 100 seats.


User currently offlineAlmbluzman From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5153 times:

Looks like Midwest will finally be getting the ERJ-145's that they thought about buying for Skyway after all! Too bad it won't be MEH employee's doing the flying...

almbluzman


User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2465 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5069 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 4):
What does this mean for NW/DL on this route? Will they quit it or do they feel they still need to be on this route?

It might be worth keeping it around since its a redeye while YX's will probably be a daytime flight. There's actually quite a few people that fly into MKE at five in the morning on NW and then connect onto DTW/MEM/MSP.



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User currently offlineDeltaHolland From Netherlands, joined Dec 2008, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5055 times:

Any chance of them coming back to FLL?

User currently offlineJolau1701 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

ERJ153's?
Something smells of Chautauqua here.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2908 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4889 times:

This will mean 3 airlines on the MKE-LAX run (NW/DL, FL, and YX) vs. just UA and AA on the ORD-LAX route. From Lake Forest, IL MKE is much easier to reach than MDW, and fares are already far cheaper out of MKE compared to ORD (not to mention the much quicker, easier, nicer, and friendlier facility). I hope to someday soon use this luxurious YX service when flying home!


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User currently offlineLoggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4205 times:



Quoting Jolau1701 (Reply 22):
ERJ153's?
Something smells of Chautauqua here.

That's a given. Chautauqua, Republic and Shuttle America are all one company. We have at least 2 135's sitting around as spares with the universal scheme (white body, blue tail). Those will start the flying. 7 UAL 145s are scheduled to come out of service in December this year, but some could be pulled early if there is an agreement between UAL and RAH. Where the other 3 aircraft come from is anyone's guess. It is thought that the CAL operation would be the leading contender.

With existing crew bases in IND and SDF, I wouldn't expect any new service announcements for the small jets. The whole operation can be staffed out of those cities. The only change I would expect to see would be the dropping of E170 service in the CMH-MKE market, to be replaced by 135/145 flying. The E170 is not needed on this route and there is an existing crew and RP maintenance facility in CMH.



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25 USFLyer MSP : Only because it cheaper! The lower fare buckets are usually available on MSP-MKE-LAX while they sell out much more quickly on MSP-LAX nonstop.
26 146crew : Do you know what tail numbers those are? I've seen N836RP flying around, what's the other one?
27 N917ME : The loads on the 170 for the afternoon flight are usually good.. the AM flight is basically a positioning flight.
28 Post contains links JetBlasted : You betcha. http://www.indystar.com/article/2009...Airline+expands+deal+with+Republic
29 Loggat : I'm not exactly sure. I thought it might be N840RP, but that's just a guess based on pilot banter (I guess they've been subbing for AA flights in STL
30 Loggat : July's bid packages are out and the 135 will be doing the following flights... First flight 7/7/09 1200 IND-MKE 0650-0650 1201 MKE-IND 0735-0935 1202
31 Post contains links Isitsafenow : Quoting Phxmkeflyer (Reply 13): Can you say INDEPENDENCE AIR? They had the right price. However................. I fly quite alot. RJ or 'real plane"
32 Mke717spotter : The ERJs will have the brown leather seats and ovens for cookies? Edit: Oh and didn't they originally say that the E190s would have 20 signature seats
33 FL787 : Slightly OT but does this mean UA is ending flying with Chautauqua in December?
34 JBo : Are those the YX flight numbers?
35 IndyWA : With Chautauqua, yes - Shuttle America still flies for UA.
36 Co757 : I think the FINAL memo will come out this fall.
37 Loggat : Our flight numbers have always followed those given by the codeshare, so I assume they are.
38 F9Animal : Of course, I am sure they hedged when it got back below 50. At least I hope they did. I sure hope not. I hate to see so much negative about YX lately
39 Cubsrule : 845 has been doing AAC flights a fair amount lately in the blue-tail scheme. There are also some blue-tail 145s, including 281 and 282.
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