Enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6156 posts, RR: 12 Posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6629 times:
OAG changes may not appear in GDS till Monday. Comparison is what was loaded for sale this week versus last week. I'm aware, for example, that seasonal services are not "NEW" routes, but if they were not for sale last week and were loaded this week they are "NEW" for sale.
Who is ED? It says it is a Pakistani carrier on the web, but must really be a new DR airline.
AM ABQ-CUU CXLD 3/week to 0, eff. 7/09
AM SFO-HMO NEW 0 to 5/week, eff. 7/09
AM SJC-GDL CXLD 6/wk to 0, eff. 7/09 (prev cut on 9/09)
AS RDD-SEA NEW 0 to 1, eff. 8/09
AS SUN-BOI NEW 0 to 1, eff. 7/09
B6 JFK-BGI NEW 0 to 1, eff. 10/09
B6 JFK-KIN NEW 0 to 1, eff. 10/09
B6 JFK-UVF NEW 0 to 3/week, eff. 10/09
CO EWR-MTJ NEW 0 to 2/week, eff. 12/09 Routine seasonal
DL added a ton of new ATL and SLC frequency. Could be a mistake or dupes. Here are some that gained more than 1 rt.
DL ATL-BHM 11 to 15, eff. 9/09 (probably smaller eqp)
DL ATL-CHA 9 to 11, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-GSO 10 to 12, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-JAN 8 to 10, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-MEM 9 to 11, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-MOB 7 to 9, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-STL 8 to 10, eff. 9/09
DL LGA-BHM 2 to 3, eff. 9/09
DL SLC-CLE RETAINED 0 to 1, prev CXLD for 9/09, now continues
DL SLC-FLL RETAINED 0 to 5/week, prev CXLD for 9/09, now continues
DL SLC-OMA 1 to 3, eff. 9/09
ED JFK-SDQ NEW 0 to 1, eff. 8/09
ED MIA-SDQ NEW 0 to 1, eff. 8/09
F9 DEN-TUL NEW 0 to 2, eff. 8/09 Lynx operated
NW JAX-LGA TRANSFER 0 to 3, eff. 8/09 (assuming this comes from DL, but isn't synced up)
NW LAX-HNL 1 to 2, eff. 9/09
The following seasonal NW flights were loaded for sale…
NW MKE-CUN NEW 0 to 1/week, eff. 12/09
NW MSP-SJD NEW 0 to 1/week, eff. 12/09
NW MSP-ZLO 0 to 1/week, eff. 12/09
NW IND-CUN NEW 0 to 1/week, eff. 12/09
SY MSP-SEA NEW 0 to 4/week, eff. 10/09 (prev CXLD for 10/09 now continues)
Enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6156 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6540 times:
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 1): Is ED the new Miami-based Eastern Airlines project?
Doubtful. I think we'd know a lot more about it if so. This is somebody with a new Part 121 or equivalent foreign flight certificate. It's most likely a D.R. based airline.
Good work. It appears they are a start-up. Anybody know about them? Are they govt backed? Refresh my memory, who was the prior D.R. based airline and what happened to them?
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6315 times:
Quoting Enilria (Thread starter): DL added a ton of new ATL and SLC frequency. Could be a mistake or dupes. Here are some that gained more than 1 rt.
DL ATL-BHM 11 to 15, eff. 9/09 (probably smaller eqp)
DL ATL-CHA 9 to 11, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-GSO 10 to 12, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-JAN 8 to 10, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-MEM 9 to 11, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-MOB 7 to 9, eff. 9/09
DL ATL-STL 8 to 10, eff. 9/09
DL LGA-BHM 2 to 3, eff. 9/09
DL SLC-CLE RETAINED 0 to 1, prev CXLD for 9/09, now continues
DL SLC-FLL RETAINED 0 to 5/week, prev CXLD for 9/09, now continues
DL SLC-OMA 1 to 3, eff. 9/09
Much of those look like an extension of the summer schedules
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
Sflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1182 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6250 times:
Thanks for those update Enilria. Always love seeing your updates pop up!
Quoting Enilria (Reply 4): Refresh my memory, who was the prior D.R. based airline and what happened to them?
Well it was LAN Dominicana which was a division of LAN Chile which never materialiazed. It was just a code shared LA flight. Prior to that I believe it was Dominicana de Aviacion. Mark will correct me if there was someone in between. The DR has always has trouble keeping a national carrier. Tough US competition is always the problem. Most DR traffic is incoming US scheduled and European charters. At one point, the DR government gave up and allowed foreign carriers to operated in/out of DR. Even AA had plans to base aircrafts in SDQ but after the economic crash, I believe everything went down.
Rdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 900 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6117 times:
Air dominica ?? The website is so bad that it will put passengers off booking. I found it very difficult to understand and whoever translated the Spanish to English did a poor job. If you are going to try to entice US and other non spanish speaking passnegers then you need to make the website friendly. |In addition there appears to be no information about the services provided the baggage situation etc. After making the booking it means that you have to go to the offices at the airport prior to going to checkin and provide the card it was booked with to get a ticket. This precludes any travel agent bookings.
Summer schedule went from 1x to 2x. Now it goes from 2x to 3x.
This just puts it back where it was 2 years ago at 3x and where is sat mostly over the past 10 years. It was actually at 4x and briefly at 5x per day about 3-5 years ago.
Sflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1182 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6064 times:
Quoting Rdwootty (Reply 9): If you are going to try to entice US and other non spanish speaking passnegers then you need to make the website friendly.
But they aren't going after Americans. They are going after the Dominican population. The American populaton has many options way before they choose Air Dominicana.
Quoting Rdwootty (Reply 9): The website is so bad that it will put passengers off booking.
Welcome to the Latin world. In the Anglo world, that website wont work', but trust me as someone who lives in Miami and teaches Hispanics, that population will have NOT problem navigating the website. Most wont book online anyway. Most in Santo Domingo and the rest of the DR will head to a local travel agency to book or walk right up at the airport counter. Trust me!
Mikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 636 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5809 times:
Quoting Enilria (Thread starter): AM SJC-GDL CXLD 6/wk to 0, eff. 7/09 (prev cut on 9/09)
Was this service ever launched or announced, I don't recall ever seeing anything about this? I know the airport would be smearing PR all over this if AM was to fly here.
The red zone is for the immediate loading and unloading of passengers only, there is no stopping in the white zone...(Ai
Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3143 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5680 times:
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21286 posts, RR: 19 Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5571 times:
Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 7): For now, it just looks like DL upgraded JAX-LGA from the CRJ to the CR9...Maybe we can get a DC-9 on that leg?
JAX-NYC has always seemed a bit underserved to me. Look at, say, RDU, which is a little bit bigger and a little bit closer but not really that different from JAX... They see quite a bit more NYC service.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31155 posts, RR: 76 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5523 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 16): Look at, say, RDU, which is a little bit bigger and a little bit closer but not really that different from JAX... They see quite a bit more NYC service.
Not really sure how JAX and RDU compare. Raleigh has a strong business traffic market to RDU. Jacksonville is in Florida only by borders - culturally and economically it is more similar to southern Georgia. It does not have strong business or cultural ties to New York City like most of Florida south of Gainesville.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31155 posts, RR: 76 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5484 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19): Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
It does not have strong business or cultural ties to New York City like most of Florida south of Gainesville.
But you can make comparisons to other cities in the region, too. SAV is about 1/4 the size of JAX and has well more than 1/4 the service to NYC....
SAV has a strong tourism component that is absent from Jacksonville. Savannah is a popular vacation spot for people from the Northeast. As is Charleston, South Carolina, as well as Asheville, North Carolina.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21286 posts, RR: 19 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5459 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20): Savannah is a popular vacation spot for people from the Northeast. As is Charleston, South Carolina, as well as Asheville, North Carolina.
As is Amelia Island (served through JAX), right? I know it's reasonably popular with folks in flyover country, but I'm less sure about the east coast.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31155 posts, RR: 76 Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5431 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21): As is Amelia Island (served through JAX), right?
Amelia Island, which is accessed via JAX as you say, is very much a niche destination. Its a very small island, less than a dozen hotels. It doesn't really compare to Savannah and Charleston.
I'm not really sure of the popularity of the island with Northeasterners. I've always thought of it as popular with wealthy Southerners.
I wonder if they would ever through something larger than a CRJ on this route on a regular basis. Maybe a CR7? Heck, a CR9 would be nice, would give DL the only F seats in CHA.
Is it bad that I get excited to see even a CRJ overfly? Man, what this place does to you
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21286 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5371 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22): Amelia Island, which is accessed via JAX as you say, is very much a niche destination. Its a very small island, less than a dozen hotels. It doesn't really compare to Savannah and Charleston.
Aren't all of those destinations pretty seasonal, though? SAV is pretty unpleasant in August.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
25 Enilria: May be, if they are flying the Summer schedule in the Fall rather than what they had previously been selling that is still good news. THANKS I assume
26 MasseyBrown: In Jan and Feb, too. JAX definitely has a winter, although it's short - six weeks or so. The "shoulder seasons" are temperate: very pleasant in Mar-M
27 Enilria: I was a little surprised that DL transitioned LGA-JAX to NW when the service is mostly flown by an affiliate anyway. I think this is the first time t
28 CV880: The current sked is 1x763 1x753 and 1x752. Unknown about a change for Sept.
29 Burnsie28: One is taken over from Delta. Yes, to be operated with Airbus's.
30 Caleeiii: Interestingly, this goes to hourly service at the top of the hour starting at 5AM through 7PM. Although the most frequency I ever remember, it is les
31 CIDFlyer: Please tell me CID-ATL and CID-CVG are not being cut. I cannot find any non stop flights on Delta.com after September. I really hope Delta does not be
33 Pzurita1: And AM continues with its experiments. ABQ-CUU was a route supported by New Mexico State Government and I was expecting to work... But this the evide
34 CIDFlyer: Frustrating!! I like CVG airport but that cut would be understandable since connections can me made via DTW. ATL is a head scratcher, we've had this
35 Enilria: The fact they were supporting it was already not a good sign. If they had continued supporting it they would probably still have service. NM probably
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