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Allegiant Air As Of 2009  
User currently offline7324ever From Serbia, joined May 2009, 563 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

So as of 2009 I understand Allegiant is expanding like crazy and profiting amazingly for it!

So how are they doing fleet wise are they able to juggle there routes with 42 mad dogs or are they getting more?

How are they doing at LAX?

Is there anything Allegiant can do to improve? (besides connections and new fleet of 737s...)

I have my first flight on them for Friday the 19th SBA-LAS! How is it service wise? *Cabin Crew and cabin*

Well in general how are they over all from 2009 and what are the exciting plans for the future?


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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

Heck...they are on the signs at MIA now...seems they are doing Cuba flying for one of the Tour Operators involved using one of the long MD's...not the baby ones they used for the casino charters.

User currently offlineG4LASRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

They're up to 43 tails at the moment, with three more coming in the next month or so. My understanding is they want to be at 50 tails by the end of '09 or early 2010. They've also bought more tails to part out (I think five at this point).

Cuba should be a real money-maker for them - two or three charters a day out of MIA to Cuba. As mentioned above, the tails are all long bodies (SFB-based), needed because of anticipated baggage loads.



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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1503 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

They are rumored to be taking the entire MD 80 fleet from SAS, some for growth and
some to use as spares. Also have heard they are actively looking for 3 B757ETOPS
aircraft to begin the long discussed Hawaii flights, but it looks like that wont happen
this year because of the training, ETOPS certificiation and rewriting the manuals etc.

Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 1):
Heck...they are on the signs at MIA now...seems they are doing Cuba flying for one of the Tour Operators involved using one of the long MD's...not the baby ones they used for the casino charters.

They have 2 aircraft based at MIA for the Cuba flights. They plan on being there for a
long while.



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User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2823 times:



Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 3):
They are rumored to be taking the entire MD 80 fleet from SAS, some for growth and
some to use as spares.

Do they currently have any aircraft as spares? Or, since some of their routes do not operate daily, have they arranged their schedules so that at least one aircraft will be available as a "spare" or "on call" even if in a different location than the aircraft that (hypothetically) went out of service?



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2807 times:



Quoting G4LASRamper (Reply 2):
Cuba should be a real money-maker for them - two or three charters a day out of MIA to Cuba. As mentioned above, the tails are all long bodies (SFB-based), needed because of anticipated baggage loads.

Nope. It is not a "should be", as it is a for sure money maker. What a score for G4!

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 3):
They have 2 aircraft based at MIA for the Cuba flights. They plan on being there for a
long while.

Yup, because it is a market that is $$$$$.



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User currently offline7324ever From Serbia, joined May 2009, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2800 times:



Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 3):
Also have heard they are actively looking for 3 B757ETOPS
aircraft to begin the long discussed Hawaii flights, but it looks like that wont happen
this year because of the training, ETOPS certificiation and rewriting the manuals etc.

Were would these birds come from? CO or ex ATA?



Anything the US and EU build the Russians do it better! i.e. TU-144 vs Concorde and TU-154 vs The 727...
User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1070 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

I wonder if they have considered MIA-Sanford service to rotate planes through to MIA to elsewhere in the system.

User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1503 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2565 times:



Quoting 7324ever (Reply 6):
Were would these birds come from? CO or ex ATA?

They are looking everywhere for the aircraft, price seems to be the consideration, they
submit an offer but have been outbid so far.

Quoting Soxfan (Reply 4):
Do they currently have any aircraft as spares? Or, since some of their routes do not operate daily, have they arranged their schedules so that at least one aircraft will be available as a "spare" or "on call" even if in a different location than the aircraft that (hypothetically) went out of service?

Sorry should have clarified, the rest of the SAS aircraft would be used as spare parts not
spare aircraft. Supposesdly they will fly 29 of the SAS birds and part out the rest.



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2546 times:



Quoting Spinkid (Reply 7):
I wonder if they have considered MIA-Sanford service to rotate planes through to MIA to elsewhere in the system.

Last week the rotation I saw on FIDS was out of PIE....sure that changes though.


User currently offlineCross757 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Hello,

I'll be flying G4 for the first time on 02 Aug on a trip IWA-EUG and back on 06 Aug...stay tuned for a trip report.

On a side note, anybody know what routes they use their MD-87's on?

Thanks!


User currently offlineG4LASRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

FLL is now an -87 base. The longer tails are needed elsewhere. UTA, IFP, and RNO are the other permanent (for now) -87 bases.

As for spares, they try to have one "ready spare" each at LAS and SFB every day. That way the east and west regions are covered. There are quite a few days when that doesn't happen though. On those days everything flies, and dispatch will use every tool they have (like tail/crew swaps, inside turns, reverse trips) to minimize the resulting delays.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

Just a little more info for those interested.

Allegiant presented at the Merrill Lynch Conference last week. The link is the powerpoint slides they used. There is also a webcast of the presentation available on the website.

Some interesting comparisons to other airlines in this presentation.

For example, Allegiant says their ancillary revenues was US$34.14 per passenger in Q1 2009. But they calculate Ryanair's number at US$14.81 per passenger in 2008.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloa...vestor%20Presentation%20vFINAL.pdf



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User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2240 times:



Quoting G4LASRamper (Reply 11):
On those days everything flies, and dispatch will use every tool they have (like tail/crew swaps, inside turns, reverse trips) to minimize the resulting delays.

Thanks for the info! I don't want to get this thread off-track, but would you (or someone) mind clarifying what you mean by "inside turns" and "reverse trips?" Thanks  Smile



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