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User currently offlineN53614 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 251 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

Hello all,

My only 747 flight was with United Airlines in Spring 1998. I DO remember that it was:

-A 747 "classic
-in the Blue/Gray scheme
-Operating as UAL 52 SFO-IAD

What I would like to know is if there's any way to know if it was a 747-100 or a 747-200. I didn't bother looking up at the windows or anything like that, as I wasn't into airliners at the time.

Thanks!


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31420 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4722 times:
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You sure it wasn't a 747-400? I'd be surprised if UA had 747-200s still around in 1998.

User currently offlineN53614 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 251 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4671 times:

I'm reasonably sure it was a 747 classic. I think I also took a safety card and it just said "747" on it (no -200, -400, etc).

Of course, it has been 11 years...



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User currently offlineKdeg00 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

I did a quick photo search to see if I could trip up what I remember, but I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that the -200s didn't get repainted into the blue/grey scheme. Please correct me if I'm wrong and I will double check with a retired UA 747 pilot friend whose memory and knowledge are far better than mine.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

It could have been a 747-100. There were still a few hanging around in 1998.

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4489 times:

I'd say it's very likely that it was a -200. I pulled up four random spring 1998 dates on the BTS website, and all of them showed flight 52 operated by a 742, ex-Qantas examples to be precise. If you knew the exact date, we could identify the exact plane you flew on. But I assume you do not know that information based on your initial criteria. Is that correct? Either way it looks you flew a -200.

User currently offlineCessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4479 times:

They did have some. I found a pic:


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That's from 1998.



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4436 times:



Quoting Kdeg00 (Reply 3):
I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that the -200s didn't get repainted into the blue/grey scheme.

Most (likely all) of the -238s ended up blue/gray.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

In addition to the 7 ex-QF -200s built in the mid-1970s, UA also took delivery of 2 new -200s in March and April 1987. They were among the last 7 all-passenger 747-200s delivered. Both were sold to NW in 2000 and converted to freighters. I think they're both still with NW, although probably not for much longer as DL recently announced that the all-cargo operation was being shut down.

Originally N151UA, now N645NW.


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Originally N152UA, now N646NW (couldn't find UA photo).


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User currently offlineN53614 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 251 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4366 times:

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the assistance with this.

MSPNWA, the flight happened in April of 1998.

Again, I really appreciate the info!



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4343 times:



Quoting Timz (Reply 7):
Most (likely all) of the -238s ended up blue/gray.

All of them did.

NS


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7542 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4219 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
You sure it wasn't a 747-400? I'd be surprised if UA had 747-200s still around in 199

The -200's were around til Dec 2000.



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

Quoting N53614 (Reply 9):
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the assistance with this.

MSPNWA, the flight happened in April of 1998.

Again, I really appreciate the info!

Your welcome!

Every little piece of info helps. I checked all 30 days in April 1998, and flight 52 was flown 23 times by a -200 (all ex-Qantas), 4 times by a -400, and 3 times by a -100. So it could have been a -100 too. All 3 with a -100 were flown in the middle of the month. I know a couple of 741s were painted into the gray UA colors, so it could be either classic with the info we have.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
I think they're both still with NW, although probably not for much longer as DL recently announced that the all-cargo operation was being shut down.

They sure are, but I think N645NW is stored. N646NW was active last time I checked. They're both part of the uncommon group of younger classic 747s that did not have the wingtip antennae. I saw one of those two and many more of the NW cargo 747s in Anchorage back in 2006. Sadly that was probably the last time I will see them up close.

[Edited 2009-06-12 20:38:36]

User currently offlineCross757 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

Hello,

I apologize if this is against a-net forum protocol, and I'm not to hijack N53614's thread, but I have also been wondering about the type/reg of a UA 747 flight I was on in 1993 on a summer trip to London from ABQ. After reading the responses here it seems that someone might be able to give me an answer, too. MSPNWA, perhaps you might be able to tell me?

The specific date was 10 June 1993 from IAD-LHR. I believe the flight number was 918 or 921 (or something close). I'm also positive it was a "classic" (I sat just over the leading edge of the wing and there were no winglets), and I saw the 747 at the gate from a few gates over as we pulled in on my inbound connecting flight from DEN (Stapleton) and I know it was in the "old" (non-stealth) colors. If it helps, the flight left IAD around 1900 local time and arrived at LHR about 0630 the next morning. My flight home was on 25 June from LHR to SFO on a UA 747SP (I realize now how fortunate I was to fly on one because I don't think UA kept them around much longer). It was in the old colors as well.

By the way N53614, how did you enjoy the flight?

Thanks, and again I apologize if I broke any rules here...

Cross757


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