FlyBeQ400 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1932 times:
Following the recent speculation regarding the lack of viability of the proposed Excelsis service from MME to LHR (taking over from the recently canceled BMI service) I was wondering what a more logical service might look like.
Here's the thoughts I came up with regarding a new turboprop based startup based out of MME.
Fleet: Initially 1x ATR 42 or similar (Saab 2000? Q400?)
Schedule ( I've just blocked everything for 90 mins including turnaround - for demonstration purposes only).
The idea would be to have connecting shuttles from Oxford Kidlington airport to Heathrow T1-4 & T5. While the shuttle would take probably 60-70 mins, it is really not much longer than needed for an inter-terminal transfer at LHR & avoids the expense of LHR slots.
> Day return to London possible via Oxford, depart at 6:30am return at 9:30pm
> Day return to Dublin possible via Oxford
> Daily flight to Paris Orly
> Daily flight to STN to connect to low fares services ??
> Possibility of code-share with Aer Lingus for flights ex DUB to the US??
> £19 all in lead up fare
> £49 per sector promo fares
> £129 day return business fares
Any other thoughts / ideas would be gratefully received!
Aidanoc5793 From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
But then why not fly to Gatwick, I think that would more traffic than OXF on the MME route. I dont think DUB would work from OXF due it being close to LHR with almost 17 flights a day how successful could it be? but MME-DUB could work with a daily perhaps connections to EI transatlantic and shorthaul to say MAD,LIS,BCN could be arranged make the most out of the route.
FlyBeQ400 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1836 times:
I believe the platform is still there, although access is very difficult to the terminal itself. Plus I think there is perhaps 1 train per day that still stops there
For trips to London its so hard to beat the train at 2:30hr from Darlington (some only with one stop at York). But with walk up single fares from £85 on up, there should be a chance to take some of the O&D market.
However, the main attraction would be to gain the connectivity to long haul from LHR. If a minibus (or even private hire transport) could literally pull up alongside the aircraft at OXF and drop you at T5 it could make for a convenient connection. Compare to train: Darlington-->Kings X --> tube to Paddington --> Heathrow express.
Airbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1685 times:
I was talking to one of our serviceair dispatchers at MME 2 weeks ago and he said that business was terrible and the airport is on the edge of bankruptcy.
Only the KLM and Eastern flights remain with the odd Ryanair and charter service,
I remember last year on the early flights there would be a BMI/Globespan/Ryanair/KLM/Eastern all lined up on the apron, now it's just empty.
Hope all goes well for your airport and that it'll have a future.
Definitely a better option that some of those proposed! MME to EDI and GLA? It's under 2h by train to Edinburgh and 3h to Glasgow. Who the hell in God's name would fly such sectors?! And OXF from MME? OXF doesn't even have service from EDI, which would be a much more enticing proposition. However, I could in theory potentially see some services to OXF, such as from JER on a seasonal basis.
If you are keen to start MME-LON, I would much recommend LGW to LTN or STN.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1612 times:
MME has a catchment area of 1.7m within a 45-minute drive and 2.8m within a 60-minute drive. It clearly shares this area with NCL, located around 30 minutes away by car.
It is interesting that BE, evidently very keen on serving regional UK airports where it is profitable, doesn't serve MME: according to the statistics contained in the link I hitherto provided, there is decent demand from MME to LON (e.g. LGW), BHD, and SOU, all key BE UK airports - and all unserved. Along with various other international destinations that it serves from other UK cities. Presumably BE management see it differently.
[Edited 2009-06-15 15:11:31]
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MMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1541 times:
Quoting DBCooper (Reply 2): Dang - I can remember 5 per business day DC9s on BD in the day. I think I have flown the following types MME-LHR on BD:
those were the days, I remember them well! Smoky Orion 732s as well running down to Spain, even some Spanish airline flights (Spanair?) and the Yugoslavia service, though these were all IT Charters.
As my username suggests, I have some ties to MME and while I would really like to see it succeed it has been totally overshadowed by NCL and to a slightly lesser degree LBA. I really can't fathom out why Teessiders are willing to drive up to NCL to catch a flight when there is a perfectly usuable airport on their doorstep. Sadly, no demand = no flights. I hope MME survives but it's fate was probably sealed in the late 60's when the government at the time opted to develop and promote NCL ahead of MME as the airport for the N.E Region.