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User currently offlineAidanoc5793 From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 105 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

What is the shortest runway a crj200 can operate from?

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User currently offlineMjzair From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4210 times:

Not an easy question to answer. A lot of factors go into the equation.


How Heavy
How Hot
How Windy And What direction.
Runway Slope
Climb requirements.

That being said, CRJ 200's regularly land 26 and Depart 8 in PHL with about 5000FT available. For takeoffs, I think 46000lbs would be the around the max weight, and I am pretty sure with the right winds, you can land at 47000lbs which is MLW.


User currently offlineRampguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4165 times:

I can tell you that during the 2004 Indianapolis Airshow, Independence Air brought in one of their CRJ-200's for display. This airshow is held at Mt Comfort airport which the longest runway is about 5500 ft long and 150 ft wide.

User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4147 times:

EV used the CR2 in EYW for a little while. Heavily restricted weight wise but that runway is 4800ft long. (MCO-EYW-MCO).


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User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 3):
EV used the CR2 in EYW for a little while. Heavily restricted weight wise but that runway is 4800ft long. (MCO-EYW-MCO).

EV operated ATL - APF. I though it was restricted to 30 pax.

As for operating performance, the CRJ and ERJ both have "slick" wings usually requiring higher landing and rotation speeds. Talk to engineers and pilots, they will tell of the significant performance enhancement of Leading Edge Devices/slats.

[Edited 2009-06-15 09:13:46]

[Edited 2009-06-15 09:14:18]

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

We know this for a fact..........with 50 pax on board, it needs more than 3500 feet.
safe



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User currently offlineAirNovaBAe146 From Canada, joined Jun 2008, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

Kenyan operator Jetlink + various UN contract operators fly the 50 seat CRJ into Goma, DRC, multiple times weekly. In fact, Jetlink's CRJs are CRJ-100 series, which are getting kind of tired and old.....

Goma is ~5000ft length, at a 5088ft elevation, and usually at a hot temperature.

If the CRJ can go in there, it can make it almost anywhere.....


User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3851 times:



Quoting AirNovaBAe146 (Reply 6):
Kenyan operator Jetlink + various UN contract operators fly the 50 seat CRJ into Goma, DRC, multiple times weekly. In fact, Jetlink's CRJs are CRJ-100 series, which are getting kind of tired and old.....

Ah I thought Voyageur was the only one doing the CRJ flights into Goma... you just proved me wrong! Thanks!


User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

There are plenty of places the CRJ-200 isn't capable of operating out of because of such factors like field elevation, density altitude, or terrain/obstacles. You can have a 5000 foot runway at sea level and be just fine for the most part. But at a higher elevation, things change.

So really, it varies based on what airport you want to fly out of. And it isn't just a matter of being able to get off the ground before the runway runs out, but also being able to adequately climb and clear terrain and obstacles once airborne, even if you lose an engine.

JAC is a good example. CRJ-200s would be just fine operating out of there if it were at sea level and there weren't mountains surrounding it. The CRJ-700 can and does operate out of there but still with some restriction. It is able to do it partly because of the enhanced wing with leading edge slats. The 757 can operate out of JAC just fine because it has good performance characteristics out of short runways and hot/high environments.

[Edited 2009-06-15 12:16:10]

User currently offlineAidanoc5793 From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

ok, GWY is an airport in the west of ireland at an elevation of 25 meters above sea level and has a runway of about 1,300 meters, would a crj200 be able to perate safely from GWY?

User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3733 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 5):
We know this for a fact..........with 50 pax on board, it needs more than 3500 feet.
safe

Poor taste. You should self delete.

Quoting Aidanoc5793 (Thread starter):
What is the shortest runway a crj200 can operate from?

Of course numbers will vary greatly, but in order to carry enough to make a reasonable amount of money and go a reasonable distance 5500 feet below 3000 ft elevation and no obstacles, 6500 feet for low vis or questionable braking below 3000 feet elevation, and 7000 feet at high temps, elevations, or with obstacles. These are very round numbers, but that is what I used when running "what if" scenarios for diversions. With charts or runway analysis numbers, you can, of course, refine these numbers quite a bit.



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User currently offlineAirNovaBAe146 From Canada, joined Jun 2008, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3403 times:



Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 7):

Ah I thought Voyageur was the only one doing the CRJ flights into Goma... you just proved me wrong! Thanks!

There is another UN CRJ that I occasionally see here, it is not Canadian registered. Has some funky reg #; something like 4D-??? or 3D-??? Is that a Voyageur plane (all of which I believe are Canadian registered) or another contractor?

AN


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15730 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3388 times:



Quoting Jkudall (Reply 8):
The CRJ-700 can and does operate out of there but still with some restriction.

Are these normal CR7s, or the special ones that OO used to replace the BAe-146 flights to ASE and I think a few other destinations?

I forget what exactly it was that was different about these CR7s, but I think that they had the uprated engines off of the -900.



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User currently onlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 717 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 3196 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 12):
I forget what exactly it was that was different about these CR7s, but I think that they had the uprated engines off of the -900.

Are these the ones that had ski bins installed in place of pax seats?


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15730 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3117 times:



Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 13):
Are these the ones that had ski bins installed in place of pax seats?

Probably. I think the blurb I read did mention something about additional cargo space for skis.



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