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User currently onlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3072 posts, RR: 23
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 22137 times:
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Continuing on from MAN News 290.

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 286):
May's provisional stats are out later today; brace yourself.

Not as bad as might have been expected.

Movements down 16.5% against last May, down 11.6% rolling year.

Passengers down 13.7% against last May, down 8.6% rolling year, which compares fairly favourably with others.



Rgds

[Edited 2009-06-15 07:21:23]


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User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 22125 times:

14% down on last May, wow thats quite a bit! Mind you some of it will be the consolidation of the Charter market etc.


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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 22084 times:

Pretty grim reading. Very very few bright spots indeed (DOH and DXB and not much else).

But then its the same story right across the UK airport sector right now......



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User currently onlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3072 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 22077 times:
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SSH looks good !  Smile

LPA is down a massive 43%. GayRugbyMan must be holidaying elsewhere !  Big grin

Also bucking the trend is Swissair, with Zurich up a highly credible 21%.  thumbsup 

One other encouraging indicator is AMS which is up 8% despite KL starting up down the road aswell.

The domestic figures for the whole of the UK are frightening though.

Still trying to get confirmation that QR are going double daily twice a week from November. Anyone in the know?



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 22071 times:
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Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 3):
SSH looks good !

LPA is down a massive 43%. GayRugbyMan must be holidaying elsewhere !

Also bucking the trend is Swissair, with Zurich up a highly credible 21%.

Someone's putting me out of a job!

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 3):
Still trying to get confirmation that QR are going double daily twice a week from November. Anyone in the know?

Not been able to find anything other than daily.


User currently onlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3072 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 22055 times:
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Sorry David, I'll sit on my hands for the rest of the day.  Wink


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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 22046 times:
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Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 5):
I'll sit on my hands for the rest of the day.

Might not escape work till 9pm so you'll have crushed hands  Wink Wonder what loads are like on WW's AMS service, as it seems to have stimulated market. Perhaps when the low fare introductory period begins, the normal downward trend will resume!


User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 22009 times:



Quoting David_itl (Reply 6):

I read something somewhere that on one flight in question there were 44 on board. A terrible load! I wonder if everyone is scared of WW and running to KL. I have to be honest KL's fares on the route have always been good and competitive, IMO.

Very good indeed that swiss are up and doing well.



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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 21960 times:



Quoting Danfearn77 (Reply 7):
I have to be honest KL's fares on the route have always been good and competitive, IMO.

I've always found the exact opposite. Unless you are filling the archaic 3 nights or a Saturday rule; they are massively expensive - unfortunately whenever I have been to AMS I have never fulfilled those criteria so a base fare with no flexibility has been over £400.

That said it has been a while, so perhaps things have changed.



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User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 21935 times:



Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 8):

Well i havnt been for around a year now but i personally have found their fares good. Mind you, when LS were on the route i remember paying £35 return for a good few years (with LS), until they built up a name and upped their fares. Even then LS used to come out at £55 and KL were around the £80 mark. When LS pulled the route, what 2-3 years ago now KL's fares shot up, literally. I remember i had to go to AMS at short notice and their return fares were astronomical. I paid something like £250. But since then i have found then fairly good, especially if you consider they had the monopoly on the route, they could have charge more in my opinion. I wonder how WW's intro on the route has bought down their fares?

Hmmm...Its interesting about QR. They are staying at 1 daily as far as i can tell, but operate two flight times:

QR042 DEP 08:20 ARR:18:20 ..3.5.7 Aircraft: Change of Equipment
QR046 DEP 14:00 ARR:23:59 12.4.6. Aircraft: A332

Now is this normal? I thought they had one original departure time? But look at the arrival time of the second flight. Strange. Also its interesting the 3 weekly flight indicates EQV. Could that be a swap between A332 and A333 or something better? 77W please!



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 21916 times:
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Quoting Danfearn77 (Reply 9):
Now is this normal? I thought they had one original departure time? But look at the arrival time of the second flight. Strange

been operating like that for a year or so. As for the arrival time, it may be to avoid the "psychological" +1 entry indicating arrival next day? EQV will be for either A332 or A333.


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 21898 times:

Can anybody give me a list of the airlines which Servisair handles at MAN? Got a job as a dispatcher and am interested in which airlines I'll be working with  Smile


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9113 posts, RR: 70
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 21898 times:

This is for Kaboom360/Tony.

TCX910K/L operates with B767-300 equipment until the 14th October so you'll have the same aircraft type there and back. The seating laylout is 2-4-2 and the seat pitch isn't actually as bad as on TCX's B757-200's for instance. I found I could actually bend my legs on these birds so maybe it's 29-30" in at least some seats?

They only actually have two of the type in the fleet and both are ex Airtours/MyTravel B767-31K-ER examples delivered in 1994. The other 763 that used to knock around with Airtours is the one Monarch have now and was delivered in 1997. You'll either be on G-DAJC which is only partially painted in TCX colours or you'll be on G-TCCA (ex G-SMTJ) which was the one I went on and was the one that crashed in 2005 whilst on lease to SkyService! Big grin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService12.jpg

Saying all that the aircraft are total heaps and the crew will tell you as much. The day I flew out on Charlie Alpha, she had just come out of the hangar after being tech for over a day! As such an Iberworld A330-300 had been operating to HER and DLM in place. You never know, you may get something totally random!



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User currently offlineKaboom360 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 21749 times:



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 12):
You'll either be on G-DAJC which is only partially painted in TCX colours or you'll be on G-TCCA (ex G-SMTJ) which was the one I went on and was the one that crashed in 2005 whilst on lease to SkyService!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...2.jpg

Jesus wept!

how can that m/f still be flight worthy, its got a crease right around the fuse!! I'm not a nervous flier, nor am I religious..... but I'll sure as hell be praying to Christ if we end up on charlie alpha!

Thanks for the info, Myt, i notice you have pics 5 and 12 here, do you have the rest in the series, or are the available in photo search?

I'll keep everything I've got crossed for a replacement aircraft, if only to fly a new type. With what you say about the frames being ex airtours/mytravel, its likely I've been on one or both of these before with either carrier.

Cheers

Tony


User currently offlineSandroZRH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21744 times:



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 3):
Also bucking the trend is Swissair, with Zurich up a highly credible 21%.

Hmm, last i heard Swissair hasn't served MAN ever since it went out of business 7 years ago  Wink


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9113 posts, RR: 70
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 21634 times:



Quoting Kaboom360 (Reply 13):
Jesus wept!

how can that m/f still be flight worthy, its got a crease right around the fuse!! I'm not a nervous flier, nor am I religious..... but I'll sure as hell be praying to Christ if we end up on charlie alpha!

Oh but he did! Basically Skyservice got Boeing to send a team down to PUJ to set up a temporary hangar around it whilst the guys from Seattle fixed her up. It was going to be a write off apparently but because it was on lease, they decided it was better to get it fixed than buy a new 763 for MYT! I flew it and survived so they did a good enough job.  Wink

Quoting Kaboom360 (Reply 13):
Thanks for the info, Myt, i notice you have pics 5 and 12 here, do you have the rest in the series, or are the available in photo search?

I've uploaded the other 10 for you. They all look similar but here you go anyway. I found them on a Canadian Law firm website a few months back. They were specialising in screwing Skyservice for cash apparently.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/myt332/SkyService12.jpg



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User currently offlineZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 21530 times:

had a great flight up on BD588 today from LHR, a wopper 39 PAX's on an A319, its was so funny that most of the pax's (97%) were at the front of the plane and the odd pax down the back. think BD need some big changes in the UK market asap...!!

did read a new 'sales page' from SQ offering some business fares to places like SYD/AKL For couples and reading the small print, think you had to book before the end of the month, but travel dates were up till March 2010 and theses were from BOTH LHR AND MAN!! so don't think SQ have made up their mind in getting rid of man just yet.



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User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1804 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 21372 times:



Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 16):
had a great flight up on BD588 today from LHR, a wopper 39 PAX's on an A319, its was so funny that most of the pax's (97%) were at the front of the plane and the odd pax down the back. think BD need some big changes in the UK market asap...!!

Whilst you may well be right you cannot base your assumption on one lightly loaded flight.



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User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 971 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 21363 times:

Okay just a thought, what about if AA started a MIA-MAN service?

Could it work?



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User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2129 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 21331 times:



Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 16):
did read a new 'sales page' from SQ offering some business fares to places like SYD/AKL For couples and reading the small print, think you had to book before the end of the month, but travel dates were up till March 2010 and theses were from BOTH LHR AND MAN!! so don't think SQ have made up their mind in getting rid of man just yet.

The fares do look good in small print, but LHR is where the cheapest flights are from. You can get down to LHR on BMI for £70, then get the SQ flights for about £300+. Or take MAN for £525 or so. Now you have to decide how much you want your luggage!! Have gone through this with my relations, and they WILL be going direct from MAN on the old 772ER's. 3 days per week operation pitiful SQ!!!


User currently onlineEGCC777LR From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 21322 times:
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User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 21305 times:



Quoting Seemyseems (Reply 18):
Okay just a thought, what about if AA started a MIA-MAN service?

AA did try a seasonal MIA-MAN service for two winters; alternating with summer BOS-MAN. I may be wrong but it got good loads, it was aimed at Caribbean cruise passengers, but suffered from not-good-enough yields etc.

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 16):
had a great flight up on BD588 today from LHR, a wopper 39 PAX's on an A319, its was so funny that most of the pax's (97%) were at the front of the plane and the odd pax down the back. think BD need some big changes in the UK market asap...!!

I'd put money on the fact that connecting/business passengers are too important to BD (and partners) to scrap MAN-LHR altogether. A frequency reduction might be wise though.


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 21305 times:



Quoting Seemyseems (Reply 18):
Okay just a thought, what about if AA started a MIA-MAN service?

They used to operate this very flight in the winter months. Dropped it last year though I think.



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 21303 times:
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Quoting Seemyseems (Reply 18):
Okay just a thought, what about if AA started a MIA-MAN service?

They did try the service - initially as a daily winter-only (mid-December to April) service but it was handicapped due to lack of a tie-in with cruise companies and the reluctance of BA to codeshare the service. The latter years of operation saw operate Fridays to Sundays in winter. With BA and AA attempting to get anti-trust immunity, the prospect of resurrecting this service does improve.

Of interest tonight is a CL415 that's arrived on delivery. Don't know where it will end up though.

[Edited 2009-06-16 14:58:17]

User currently offlineGayrugbyman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 21276 times:



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 3):
Still trying to get confirmation that QR are going double daily twice a week from November. Anyone in the know?

There are some extra QR flights in November to fulfil a specific contract for passengers from Nepal, I understand. The same happened in autumn 2007 and 2008.


25 BlueShamu330s : Thanks GRM.
26 GayrugbyMAN : I wonder why none of the VT serbives from Piccadilly to Euston don't call at MAN? It would probably only add 5 mins or so to a journey to allow for th
27 David_itl : Today's the day of the "aviation summit" There are to be three panel debates examinig the strategy surrounding the Middle East, the US and India over
28 Myt332 : Not enough paths between Mauldeth Road and Heald Green and the Pendolino's wouldn't fit on the platforms? Why would they want to do that? Are there m
29 Humberside : In addition to the reasons Myt332 said, the VT services are designed to offer a quick Manchester-London service. Serving MAN would just add time on.
30 David_itl : For the States, it's SFO and/or LAX that MAN wants a link to. And for India, lobbying is being done to get restored links be it through AI or IT. The
31 Myt332 : Let's surmise Easyjet were to start ZRH next season, how would that go down with LX on the route? Also, let us surmise Liverpool was to see some CFM A
32 Seemyseems : I hope that we see AI making a come back, it would be ideal. SFO or LAX would be interesting to see, maybe UA could start MAN services (which I doubt
33 GT4EZY : In what respect? It's only a few more seats. From a pax and crew point of view theres next to sod all difference.
34 David_itl : Leaks suggest Germanwings going to CGN from October.
35 Myt332 : True but I don't know really because if the Scousers get all the big planes, what about poor MAN and LGW. I'd guess something like 4U flight 342 and
36 David_itl : Perhaps Wonder if they'll stick with just that route or look at other X3 routes.
37 LHRjc : With 7 EZY spec A320's now delivered in the form of EZTA-G how many more are going to be delivered? These are split between MAN/LGW at the moment so
38 GT4EZY : There are enough or will be enough A320's to go around and the plan has never been to operate them exclusively out of MAN and LGW in the future. Shou
39 Post contains links David_Itl : Here's the middle-east bit: Half of all travellers from the North flying to Dubai drove to Heathrow rather than fly from Manchester. Food for thought
40 Oly720man : Lots of A380 fans then? I think I'd want a bit more of a breakdown than just stating that the equivalent of 1.5 B777s a day would rather fly from LHR
41 Jamotcx : And I thought it was bad people traveling over to LPL for a flight to AGP to "save a tenner" Had a conversation with a neighbour the other day who we
42 Danfearn77 : Yeh i couldnt agree more. I have to admit, i went to LPL last year to go to BVA. Rtn flights MAN-CDG were something like £190 each, whereas these FR
43 MainMAN : I'm going to AMS on Sunday, booked only last week, it was £79 on U2, £112 on WW and £130 on KL, so EZY won. Shame, I haven't used MAN at all this
44 David_itl : Wonder how long Concorde will be with us following Geoff Muirhead's comments: "Concorde's the only thing BA have honoured us with" in today's Manchest
45 GT4EZY : I think many passengers are more savvy than you give them credit for. True, Aer Lingus could well have been cheaper but they are not as well known (b
46 Jamotcx : Well considering how much it would cost BA to move her I'm pretty confident that she aint moving, esp with what I hear from peeps I know in the city
47 MainMAN : Yes of course....It takes me 30 minutes to get to MAN, 45 minutes to get to LPL. I'm checking in at 5.30am so really I've have no choice other than t
48 GT4EZY : I agree.......... to a huge proportion of MAN's catchment MAN is not "local" in the sense that it is located in the passenger's conurbation......this
49 MainMAN : Indeed, that was me after a very hefty night out! I don't like the disjointed terminals 1 and 3, the emphasis on retail, the often clear neglect of m
50 Tapman : Flew into MAN the other night from STR with HF I was very impressed with the service on the aircraft. Had a map on the whole way tracking the route, w
51 Speedbird19 : Rumour has it that Germanwings are to take over TuiFly's routes into Manch with A319's.
52 Seemyseems : Is there any news from the potential Indian carrier and the LAX service?
53 Cornish : There is no potential Indian carrier or carrier lined up for LAX service yet. That is a desire from MAN - or more specifically the Manchester busines
54 David_itl : I imagine that for the next 3 years, there will be more tendency to secure further European links with any new long-haul developments in this time sc
55 RyanairGuru : Even though there are no airlines lined up, realistically speaking we can guess who would ultimatley operate the routes if they were to go ahead (I am
56 Post contains links and images Myt332 : It's funny, I was chatting to my seat mate on the BA shuttle the other week down from MAN and he was off to LAX. We got to the point where he told me
57 GT4EZY : And will you be in the country for the Easyjet (MAN) Summer ball at a certain FO's manor?
58 Phollingsworth : Speaking of DL, does anyone know why they went back to a 763 to ATL through the middle of July, when it currently reverts to the usual 764?
59 David_itl : MAN is usually roped in when Australian papers discuss past QF destinations and where JQ may go with their 787s; one wonders what a MAN-AUH-SYD route
60 RyanairGuru : Your right, QF and EY have signed a code-share agreement (for the time being only EY codes on QF domestic and QF codes on EYs flights from AUH-SYD/MEL
61 Gayrugbyman : It'll be a good do, I will be there and am looking forward to it. My first one, in fact. The perks of the job, eh!
62 Myt332 : You will be there? Really? What the hell! Are you sure you haven't got your wires crossed? In any case I will be there if I haven't been despatched t
63 GT4EZY : Sounds sarcastic. It's actually just a party....
64 Boeing74741R : Correct. It is now bookable on the Germanwings website. If I'm interpreting their timetable correctly it starts on Sunday 25th October.
65 Groobster : I used Germanwings for the first time earlier this month going from Munich to Berlin. Tidy airline, spotless aircraft (A319), pleasant staff, and on t
66 Gayrugbyman : ....and a FABULOUS gay scene to be explired, too! There're are always plenty of Queens on the MAN-CGN flights.
67 Seemyseems : Saw a MAN bill board advert on A5104, it was quite a clear ad too.
68 GT4EZY : Well aslong as they have the red carpet out for you our Majesty.
69 Gkirk : Aye, they're popping up all over billboards in Carlisle too...
70 Rutankrd : Since Germanwings are backed Lufthansa they must have adequate resources
71 Danfearn77 : Yeh, add Liverpool to that. They are all over the place. Finally, Big news. GRM will be showing his face. We will definately role out a red carpet fo
72 Gkirk : Surpised LH didnt put CRJs onto MAN-CGN rather than 4U A319s
73 GT4EZY : To be fair, they are only covering what is part of their market in one form or another. CGN is very much an LCC destination these days and I think it
74 Gkirk : Dunno, Carlisle is a NCL market... Perhaps
75 Daleaholic : You gonna be at the MAN meet?
76 GT4EZY : I said in one form or another. i.e long haul flights. I regularly have passengers on my flights from a far a field as Carisle, Newcastle, Birmingham
77 Col : That is rather strange as they seem to be filling the 764 very nicely. The 763 is a little substandard now that they have the on board offerings on t
78 Speedbird19 : The DL064/065 is back on a B763 for June only whilst they do maintainance on the B764. It'll be back next month
79 Danfearn77 : Yes please! Would be an awesome sight to see.
80 Daleaholic : Would the introduction of a 777 mean one of DL's routes would be axed out of MAN? I imagine the 777 could accommodate the majority of ATL and JFK pas
81 Seemyseems : Good! I thought DL was keeping ATL as a B763, good to see that the B764 will be back soon!
82 Danfearn77 : Is it heavy maintenance? Its in for a long time. Is it possible they will be putting in new IFE systems or something?
83 Danfearn77 : Certainly hope so! If i can get time off work! Although, with the threat of bloody redundancy hanging in the air i could be at MAN all summer! What a
84 Speedbird19 : I'm not too sure, IFE on the B764's is pretty good already, PTVs in Economy and Business. The B764 is operating all summer, I agree, I prefer it to a
85 Col : The 764's have IFE already. From memory it is not same standard as their 77L, which I flew on for first time the other day (15 hrs!!). With the loss
86 Daleaholic : 4/5th July, check out the thread in Non-Av
87 Luftymatt : Lufthansa to add an extra HAM flight from the winter schedule; LH 4875 Departs 13:55. They've said there's a gap in the market since AB pulled the ser
88 Ammunition : Some potentially interesting changes for the winter season I look forward to some announcements lol
89 Gayrugbyman : U2 have yet to commit to MAN for the winter on the same scale as their summer operations.
90 Post contains links David_itl : FR has come out and said that MAN is one of 4 UK airports they are expecting to grow (one of the others is LPL!) . Article here. All it needs is taxat
91 Gayrugbyman : Has this been mentioned: 'BMI regional are reducing services from Manchester to Glasgow down from 4 to just 1 flight each weekday from 29th June. All
92 Danfearn77 : Wow, if true then that will be great to see. Not surprisable. If anything they will hang on to see how the market goes.
93 GT4EZY : It's hardly accounted for a huge percentage of pax in the first place to be fair. Easyjet are usually quite slow to release new destinations. I suspe
94 Gayrugbyman : I understand EK are extremely close to announcing the third morning arrival/departure from MAN, to start this winter I am told. Also, EK are being ver
95 Danfearn77 : So am i right in thinking this could be a big announcement? And its not like other big announcements where it turns out to be Paris 'chav' hilton sel
96 MainMAN : There are regular twice daily connections from LON to BLL on BA via MAN, with a convenient choice of two departure airports, LHR or LGW. Sorry, could
97 GT4EZY : Yeah we don't want the MAN assassination police to hunt you down do we.
98 Post contains links Flyhi : Funny you should mention EZY... http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1137079.php?mpnlog=1 Didn't realise Copenhagen was so popular.
99 GT4EZY : Interesting.................no word of it at work either internally or externally.
100 Myt332 : So you've also heard the possibility of Cimber air on 73W's and DY on 73H's there alongside a DY to OSL route? I've heard it could be a B777-300 (non
101 LuftyMatt : Yep its true. It's been chartered by Man U. SQ sent us the handling request for it a week ago.
102 Jamotcx : And I was looking forward to SSH! Just looking at how these routes could fit into whats currently on sale for the winter and will they keep ATH going
103 GT4EZY : It wouldn't surprise me if SSH is still on the cards. The new Summer routes were announced over two dates.
104 Gayrugbyman : Time to put your handbag away, poppet! SAS needs some competition, so good news there. Didn't BA Regional do the route a few years back, too and DM h
105 Jamotcx : Could well happen. From whats been on sale for the winter for the last month or so theres 10 possible slots for flights to fit in per week and they a
106 David_itl : It's meant to be 6 weekly 757s this winter so not really down when comparing it to the same period last year.
107 Danfearn77 : Alex, i think the fact GRB didnt bring you up on this means you could be close to the truth! Hopefully. If it is then its bye bye SQ. I seem to remem
108 David_itl : I wouldn't mind betting that if BA had 100% J class paying fully flexible fares, they'd have found a way of making the route unprofitable (perhaps by
109 SKORD : Interesting! Seems to be a break-away from their their predominantly sun/leisure destinations ex MAN. On a personal note I hope it doesnt happen (not
110 Post contains links Danfearn77 : http://www.uk-airport-news.info/manchester-airport-news-270609.html
111 Daleaholic : I can see the Munich route doing well from MAN! Marrakech is an odd one though, not the type of route I expect from Easyjet... Not too sure about tha
112 Danfearn77 : Time will tell, but its good to see them expand. I wonder if this will push FR into any expansion.
113 David_itl : If LH intends disposing of WW, wonder if U2 may jump in and buy it. Would mean running 737s alongside the A320s for the time being, but then they'd ha
114 GT4EZY : Marrakech is served considerably by Easyjet and is by no means a surprise. Plus it's an old GB route from MAN. Whilst no one can ever say never, I do
115 Daleaholic : Fair enough, I've never really taken a great interest in LCC routes, quite interesting really
116 Myt332 : I wasn't comparing to this period last year. Really? I never realised. I flew BA/GB MAN-LHR-CMN-RAK-CMN-LHR-MAN for my 21st a few years back amongst
117 MainMAN : Yes they did, and when they quit, it was one of the routes which TOM took on. It's good to see EZY launch these three cities from MAN and not LPL (pu
118 Myt332 : No that's good, I just don't recall. It couldn't have been when I went to RAK though, early 2007? Well I hope not! In other news I fly FR tomorrow ba
119 MainMAN : It didn't last long at all. I've completely lost the timeframe, but 2005/6 sounds about right to me! Where are you travelling back from on FR?
120 GT4EZY : LHR-CMN-RAK was the nightstop that MAN crew were occasionally sent to operate.....except me that is. MAN-RAK operated October 2005-March 2006 Many, i
121 Gayrugbyman : I don't see any 'expansion' as such with these three 'new' routes. They are merely replacing CFU/BIA/HER/DLM for the winter. They can only carry a fi
122 GT4EZY : To be fair.... RAK is a good example of given the Easyjet treatment, it tends to work. True, but a 4th aircraft for the Winter hasn't been ruled out
123 Seemyseems : Hopefully TAP will start MAN services, what about IB or AZ?
124 MainMAN : A historical coincidence maybe, in terms of LPL initially having multiple daily departures to places the legacy carriers serve from MAN (BFS, CDG and
125 David_itl : Many being GT and TOM only? They're just as bad as AZ in terms of starting and stopping MAN routes; the last time was the tried and untrusted tag-on
126 Gayrugbyman : TP will need a 2x daily LIS if they are to take advantage of business travel to the Portuguese capital and to make it appealing for transit passengers
127 Tapman : My sources tell me there could be an announcement in the next few days from TP. Would be great to see them back at MAN
128 Rutankrd : Gayrugbyman and Tapman They do have a few thing smaller than A32x but they have differing colours outside and I think they may be familiar to Manchest
129 GT4EZY : Once daily would suffice, atleast to start with. Whilst frequency can often be important, not that many people would day visit somewhere as distant a
130 Rutankrd : Also if those South American connections are to be made then you need to be in Lisbon by 8AM as just all connections depart between 9.30 -11.00 am For
131 Gayrugbyman : Were NI daily when they operated MAN-OPO-LIS? Not even the LHRs arrive in LIS until 0900hrs.
132 Rutankrd : TAP351 scheduled 8:40 and generally often arrives a good 10 minutes early . I use this flight about three or four times a year. Sacavem is a cozy term
133 MainMAN : I can remember 727s in the 80s, I think on a Wednesday and Saturday! They were probably just MAN-LIS without OPO, but I'm guessing.....
134 Gayrugbyman : Anyone know what the number is for Manchester ATIS? The current number doesn't seem to carry a forecast.
135 Rutankrd : Manchester Departure ATIS is available via phone 0161 499 2324
136 Gayrugbyman : Why is the forecast always unavailable?
137 Myt332 : I was away in CCF with a load of my family for my grandmother's 70th. As such she bought the whole family the flights but alas, it was FR. On the oth
138 Gayrugbyman : From another site: 'EK to ad a third daily service from Manchester this October on a 777-300 effective 25th October. 0820z Departure. Germanwings new
139 Kaboom360 : Hi guys, Looking forward to seeing what 'they've' done to my beloved MAN T1 from beyond the 'Beureau de change' ramp onwards when i go MAN - IBZ Weds
140 Danfearn77 : Any source? If true and coupled with the 3 EZY routes this winter then thats great news for MAN. And a third daily is what we've been waiting for! Bu
141 SKORD : Where did THAT come from?? With EZY also starting and SK already on the route, what gives??
142 Myt332 :
143 Gkirk : FFS, there go GSM screwing things up again
144 Gkirk : Here's some more wild guesses for you seeing as that's what everyones favourite pastime is on this thread New routes: Ryanair: Malmo Stockholm Madrid
145 MainMAN : How about this one.....Glasgow to secure itself a European legacy carrier, oh no sorry it's already got ONE, KLM....hehe
146 Gkirk : It's also got BA mind, they're a European carrier
147 RyanairGuru : How about: QF daily to SYD, potentially competing with NZ daily 772 to AKL via LAX, increasing to 744 after 4 months, competing in turn with UA and VS
148 Rutankrd : Gkirk Glasgow also got Bmi and bmiR who operate to Copenhagen on behalf of SAS I believe. Aer Lingus (They remain a legacy carrier in many respects) A
149 Post contains links Gkirk : BREAKING NEWS: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....23373__tortoises_seized_at_airport And also: http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness....?AID=/200906
150 Gayrugbyman : 'Credit rating agency Standard & Poor's (S&P) has warned that Manchester Airports Group plc (MAG) could be downgraded because of falling passenger num
151 Humberside : If true, depends on terms of the deal with the tour operator. If they are getting paid enough then it could be another good source of income similar
152 Post contains links Gkirk : Ok, this point has made me look up something about the Latin American population in the UK, so lets have a look... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_
153 Daleaholic : Emirates A380 due to be serving MAN Jan 2010... Heard it here first folks!
154 Danfearn77 : Is this billy bull sh*t . So it is a third daily or an A380? Or both?
155 Daleaholic : Seriously isn't. I do work at the airport now you know...
156 Gkirk : Would have thought BHX would be the better bet for the 3rd daily. It is England's second city after all
157 Danfearn77 : I believe you! Would you say it was a reliable source!?
158 Danfearn77 : Haha i was waiting for you to chip in with your anti-MAN ways!
159 Daleaholic : Pretty much!
160 Gkirk : Anti-MAN ways? I'd call them jibes more than anything else, especially considering how often I'm down there (albeit at the airport pub )
161 BHXDTW : is SQ def dropping MAN next year ? ... any links ? And, not wishing to detract from the MAN thread but, I have heard from good authority (someone at E
162 Danfearn77 : If they do i suspect it will be turned into 1 daily. My guess would be if EK starts an early morning service then SQ will leave MAN. They are already
163 GT4EZY : Whilst I have my own views of which City holds that accolade, isn't the title BRITAIN's second City and not Englands?
164 Post contains links Gkirk : Have they reduced the prices yet? Dunno, you could probably have a case for Edinburgh, Cardiff or Belfast for Britains second city. Anyhow, looks lik
165 Danfearn77 : No they have not! Had a coke and it cost me £2.40! Unfortunately i cannot grace you all with my presence this weekend as i am away working. Another
166 LuftyMatt : I agree with you, its rubbish! Know-where to go to wave off family and friends now. I miss that feature of T1. Who do you work for?
167 Daleaholic : A company at the airport
168 Gayrugbyman : I hope EY beat EK to the announcement and announce a second daily service before EK do.
169 Jamotcx : I dont think Etihad have a time machine... I'm guessing you mean you want to see Etihad add a second rotation before Emirates add a third. Are the Em
170 Danfearn77 : I believe so. Im sure their average loads are about 370 seats in a configuration of 420ish. I could be wrong. Its also another frequency allowing mor
171 Myt332 : I won't say, "yes, you are wrong", but EY's A332's hold 262 people. EK's 77W on the EK17/18 rotation holds 442, the EK19/20 77W holds 427 and the EK2
172 LuftyMatt : Ah so you don't really then. Best not to get too caught up in a fantasy world eh?
173 Myt332 : Don't be nasty. He does work at the airport. He works for OCS pushing old gits around.
174 Col : Leave me out of this argument!!
175 Gayrugbyman : Has Co-Operative opened yet in T1 arrivals?
176 Daleaholic : I actually do work at the airport and today found out some pretty good info regarding the A380.[Edited 2009-07-01 06:22:13]
177 LuftyMatt : Ha ha I suspected as much
178 Daleaholic : Well you suspected wrong... I work as a dispatcher...
179 LuftyMatt : Sorry man, I was just messing with you That's what you get for being too secretive though!
180 Daleaholic : Aha well, I can't keep this in any longer. Emirates A380 will be visiting MAN on the 7th September for testing prior to the commencing of service in J
181 EK-A380 : Will the EK A380 be a commercial passenger paying flight or will it come up from LHR for the testing?
182 Gayrugbyman : ..and a rather handsome one at that, too! It's exciting news about the A380 - they are working like mad to get stand 12 ready for the A380, and of co
183 Mhodgson : Hang on... stand 12? Isn't that on pier B? Surely that is one of the worst places to park an A380 - it gets packed out with an A320, and is hardly the
184 MAN23R : eh? where have you been for the last year?currently stands 8,10,12 are blocked off due to the work in progress, which is scheduled to be finished in O
185 Daleaholic : ...How do you know what I look like? But presumably the A380 from Emirates will be on one of the stands? Surely they're getting stand 12/14 sorted as
186 Gkirk : IF it goes to MAN
187 Myt332 : The QF A380, EK A380 and SQ A380 landed at my local airport today. I couldn't even be bothered to lift my copy of The Sun to have a look. So 2005....
188 Gkirk :
189 LuftyMatt : What lounge? I've seen them working on the stand, but naff all has been done to the lounge.
190 Gayrugbyman : My understanding of the plans for stand 12 is that the A380 stand will not have airbridges until the total renovation of B pier takes place, whenever
191 RyanairGuru : Wow, you know that MAN's hit the bottom when the only places EK flys to which are worse are in Ghana and Nigeria!!!
192 Danfearn77 : Not the best way of putting it! I cant believe they are going to have an A380 stand with no piers. Typical MAN. Pier B could take years to renovate a
193 Myt332 : 2076 I'll guess at. Why though couldn't they sort T2 out and keep EK over there exactly? B pier really is just shite. I mean FR go from there... Well
194 Daleaholic : It is quite a baffling decision. Also not sure why T1 has been chosen as the A380 terminal. What would've made sense is to merge 215 and 214 on the e
195 MainMAN : Too true, and that's what I seem to remember it was designed for. It was supposed to be the main long haul/wide-body terminal (with a few charters th
196 Danfearn77 : I believe it is because they have ploughed a lot of money in T1 and they know T2 is a bit run down. They must be planning to move someone across from
197 Danfearn77 : Oh another thing. Was it my eyes or did i see an Air Finland a/c, think it was a 757, lift off from 23L before?
198 SKORD : Yes you did.... thay have been operating for Monarch again.
199 Speedbird19 : Monarch were supposed to be coming over to T2 for the Summer...still waiting... T2 was badly designed stand wise, with not being able to get two wide
200 Ammunition : Good to see Turkuaz at MAN this morning, with charter flights to Turkey.
201 Myt332 : I believe I speak for the majority of people when I say, who?
202 Post contains links Ammunition : Their website is not very detailed, however i think they are operating 6 weekly frequency to Dalaman. Will confirm on Monday. http://turkuazairlines.c
203 Jamotcx : Well said myt332. From being in the industry I have learned not to trust random airlines. Its bad enough trusting the big ones as a few have had stic
204 Flyhi : ZB have put on sale FUE and LPA from MAN from mid October. FUE will be up to twice weekly and LPA once weekly.
205 Danfearn77 : Oh right, i didnt know they were operating for them anyway. Crap livery but strangely i quite like it. Well, ive been sat here in this darkened room
206 GT4EZY : Are you a kinky rent boy?
207 Danfearn77 : Maybe Depends on who's asking! Unfortunately its a course im on. Extremely boring. Any big heavies at MAN? I only thought the other day, i havent see
208 Gayrugbyman : More new routes to be announced this week apparently.
209 Danfearn77 : What are the rumours saying? SHort haul, long haul?
210 David_itl : Well just today there's been Great Wall, China Airlines and Cathay 74Fs. Also of interest was a LH 737 operating for LX.
211 Danfearn77 : I havent seen Great wall in months! Im off a few days next week, the first in about 3 months, so i might spend a nice day at MAN!
212 Daleaholic : Saw the air china and cathay freighters in this past week, as well as a FedEx ATR which was sat on the far remote for pretty much the whole week...
213 Danfearn77 : Yeh that little thing is always sat there. I mean a nice big MD-11 or DC-10! None of this prop stuff.
214 Daleaholic : Well, they do exist and were operating from T2 today. Very crappy livery.
215 Post contains images Danfearn77 :
216 Post contains images Danfearn77 :
217 Gayrugbyman : ZB announce FUE/LPA year-round.
218 Danfearn77 : I thought OA left MAN ages ago. I havent seen them here for such a long time. Infact, last time i did it was an A343 if i remember. What is their freq
219 MainMAN : Yes, Mon, Thu and Sat at 22.15
220 Speedbird19 : AWACS ZH101 did two approaches today in the glorious weather, in case anyone missed it
221 SKORD : Who??
222 MANmatt : She means the RAF plane AWACS, it did a couple of missed approaches this morning. ZH101 was the reg. Matt
223 Post contains links Oly720man : Icelandair starting morning flights KEF-MAN-GLA-KEF from Sept 25th to connect with US services from Iceland. Operating Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat. until May 3
224 David_itl : Confirmed on FI's website.
225 Jetset7E7 : Monarch don't want to move over to T2, they don't want to be stuck on remote all the time! Its not just VS who take up 2 stands, any of the following
226 Seemyseems : Got a question: What lounge do the PK pax use at MAN? Thanks!
227 Speedbird19 : The Escape Lounge in T2.
228 Gayrugbyman : So what is the Icelandair sked for the new flights? There seems to be some confusion.
229 Daleaholic : They've had a gate everyday this week!
230 Oly720man : On the FI site the schedule has - leaving MAN FI436 Mo, We, Fr, Sa : Dep 1225 BST, Arr 1540 GMT, goes via GLA FI441 Mo, Fr : Dep 2205 Arr 2335 GMT So
231 MainMAN : I'm not convinced that they'll be operating 6 weekly, but having said that I can't find the information on their website. Surely the new schedule rep
232 Gayrugbyman : FI have some great fares from MAN to JFK/MSP now on sale! Should do well!
233 Daleaholic : Is it listed as MAN-JFK/MSP? Because I couldn't find anything...
234 MainMAN : It's not 6 weekly, it's 4! But still a great addition to MAN's portfolio; I always thought it a shame that FI's initial schedule didn't connect the s
235 ScottieDog : The ILS on 05L/23R at Manchester is to be replaced, one end at a time, during the period August 2009-January 2010.
236 Daleaholic : Got a little update on the A380 situation today Seems Emirates want to bring it in first, but SQ has a contractual obligation to be the first airline
237 Ek-a380 : I was hoping the A380 would be in MAN for September and want to fly it from MAN and now I hear from another posting in here that BHX is getting it on
238 Daleaholic : I have no answer to any of your questions as all I got told was that Emirates have 2 charters planned MAN-SYD for the end of September. Highly doubt
239 Gkirk : Cannot fly nonstop. If they do operate, they will be via DXB
240 Daleaholic : I was told it wasn't going anywhere near Dubai... so where else? BKK?
241 Gayrugbyman : EK have announced an A380 to BHX in September, haven't they?
242 David_itl : DOn't think they've announced anything. Updating schedules in one thing, actually operating it is another; I imagine there would be substantial media
243 Daleaholic : The thing is... Singapore apparently have a contract (not sure who with) which states that they should be first airline operating the A380 outside of
244 Post contains links Gkirk : Some people are so thick.... http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....s/s/1125844_drug_smuggler_bunkered
245 Cornish : Frankly that sounds like utter BS to me. Did you hear that from somebody who would truly know what sort of contract SQ had with whoever it might be?
246 Daleaholic : Hence why I said 'apparently'.
247 Candid76 : This will mean Cat 1 operations only from the runway 23 end for a couple of weeks, so fog would cause chaos.
248 Gkirk : Well, seeing as the provisional statistics for June are now out, I'll start a new MAN thread.
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