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The Fabulous Life Of An EK Flight Attendant  
User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 32026 times:

Interesting  Wink : http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122877609256789273.html

93 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 31932 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Thread starter):

I dunno, but I think I could do it.. HAHa



There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 31900 times:

Sounds rather isolating and creepy....to each his own though!


Someday the sun will shine down on me in some faraway place - Mahalia Jackson
User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 31775 times:



Quoting TUNisia (Reply 2):

i wouldnt mind spraying champagne on bikini clad girls though..its like spring break everyday! Big grin


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26941 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 31682 times:



Quoting TUNisia (Reply 2):
Sounds rather isolating and creepy....to each his own though!

It can be but can also be great. I have a friend of mine who worked for them for some years. She loved it but had enough and moved back to Ireland.

I guess its something you do for a while and to gain experience.


User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1696 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 31597 times:

I have two friends working for EK and they are not too happy, this article only talks about the good thing but they also have many bad things, believe me.

I also have 1 flying for Gulf Air, and more or less the same, or even worst, Bahrein is not Dubai, jejejejeje.

When you are talking to a friend in private you really know the real history and not only the history that everybody wants to hear.

Altough I must say that EK is a very good place to work, they (EK F/A) could be happier but religion and politics are very stronge there, but when they join EK they know the conditions (good and bad things).

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 3):
i wouldnt mind spraying champagne on bikini clad girls though..its like spring break everyday!

 rotfl   devil 


User currently offlineKimberlyrj From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 31576 times:

A friend who works for EK says at first she loved it but now she can’t wait to leave... She said there is very little support for crew outside work and if you become ill you are expected to take time off unpaid...

I would also take issue with EK employing attractive men, I have seen a few good looking male crew members but most are average at best and mostly come across as being oppressed, something I have noticed as a fare paying passenger.

EK = still not convinced.

Kimberly RJ


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19212 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 31510 times:

Based on that article, it seems good overall.


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User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 976 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 31161 times:

i have got many friends that currently work for EK, and i know that majority of the time its 'just ok' they all want to work for QR ... now that is one great company to work for by the sounds of them!


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User currently offlineCtrav11 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 30617 times:



Quoting Kimberlyrj (Reply 6):
I would also take issue with EK employing attractive men, I have seen a few good looking male crew members but most are average at best and mostly come across as being oppressed, something I have noticed as a fare paying passenger.

If they relaxed their standards on hiring openly gay men, that number might improve considerably.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8339 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 30525 times:
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EK offers what airlines in the west did in teh 1950 and 1960's. Its also a way for people from emerging countries to do something their own national airlines don't offer them. Then there is Dubai, one of the most exciting places in the world today.

User currently offlineWn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 30327 times:

It will be interesting to see where they are in ten years. With arrangements like theirs, their labor costs have to be truly disgusting. Quite an accomplishment without a union...

User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8339 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 30158 times:
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Quoting Wn700driver (Reply 11):
It will be interesting to see where they are in ten years. With arrangements like theirs, their labor costs have to be truly disgusting. Quite an accomplishment without a union...

There labor cost can't be too bad, EK FA earn less there then at European or USA airlines. Pilots have generaly 5 years contracts. The apartments where the FA's are housed is probably owned by an entitiy of the Dubai Government, which does it to support the development of the airline. Dubai's goverment has the money to acquire thing and will go to great lengths to do so.

I read a book last fall about how the government of Dubai wanted an exchange to trade oil contracts and how they courted the New York Merc. They pay the Merc a royalty on every trade through the Dubai echange. 27 of 30 members of teh Board went to Dubai for the junket, there was so much interest in the place. Everyone flew Emiates First Class from JFK to Dubai. When the people of Dubai want something they can grease the wheel and make it happen. Being in the middle of 3 bilon people helps too.


User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 29899 times:

Be very careful living in DXB - particularly if you're a westerner. Be particularly careful about alcohol, kissing in public, or even walking alone at night. The police are often unpredictable. You'll hear lots of stories about people who say this is nonsense and others that have experienced the other side of the coin. Friends of mine (not friends of friends, but friends) were in a group shopping and one of the group bought something and it turned out the US bill they used was a forgery (unknowingly, it was part of change they had received elsewhere). They were ALL arrested. My friend who works at EK in tech was able to use influence and local knowledge to rescue them.

Other people have had loans and lost their jobs and been arrested at the airport and jailed. Be informed!



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User currently offlineRefmannc From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 28683 times:
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I flew twicw RT on A380 First Class JFK-DXB. FAs are best in the sky. Especially the Australians.

User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 639 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 28637 times:

Guys, this article (although very interesting) is old and has already been discussed last year.

User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2437 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 28500 times:

As bad as some of the stories I've heard on EK's work environment, I've also heard QR is much worse. Employment standards in the ME for low/mid-skilled workers aren't that good overall really, but it's the opposite for high-skill workers (tech, finance, oil industry)...


oh boy!!!
User currently offlineJFKPurser From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 486 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 28112 times:

It sounds like selling one's self into a form of really fun slavery. At least you can quit -- or come out of the closet -- any time you get sick and tired of it. I was lucky to have been able to pretty much all of the fun stuff they describe in the 1980s at my airline but did not have to deal with any of the harassment or bigotry.

User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 27283 times:



Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 15):

when i posted the thread, this article or similar titles didnt come up in any previous posts  Smile. It sounds like fun, the job, but im sure like you guys have said, there is a dark side to everything. Yeah it says that EK wants 75% of the cabin crew to be females (sad they have to wear that cap/scarf thing and not let their hair down, so to speak).


User currently offlineB787 From Australia, joined May 2005, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 26674 times:

Female flight attendants dancing around in bikini's.... gee sounds horrible... Big grin

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 26013 times:

In my last visit to Dubai I've been to Zinc club and indeed the place is full of EK flight attends having fun and enjoying life. Btw, all of them really good looking...

Rgs,


User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 25197 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 20):

sounds fun  Smile


User currently offlineSkyguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 24339 times:

If the WSJ wrote an article on AA or any of the other major US airlines F/A's, the article would be totally the opposite of what was written about EK. The F/A's here look like crap, (nothing wrong with that I guess, it just is what it is), not one of them I have come across appear to be under 30, are poorly paid and suffer from very low morale. I doubt the AA F/A's would be able to put on a bikini and spray champagne. The majority of the senior F/A's are close to retirement age (60-65?) and they are desperate to hang on to their pensions so they keep working, mostly on the international routes.
As AA constantly remind you when you board their aircraft, the F/A's are there primarily for safety, not for service. As long as passengers know this then it makes no sense to compare them to other international airlines F/A's, they just not even comparable.



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User currently offlineFxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7263 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 23098 times:
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Quoting Skyguy (Reply 22):
The majority of the senior F/A's are close to retirement age (60-65?)

I wish they'd retire and hire younger people that actually want to be there.  no 


User currently offlineEMB170 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 647 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 21262 times:



Quoting Ctrav11 (Reply 9):
If they relaxed their standards on hiring openly gay men, that number might improve considerably.

and yet the article mentions "young men who wear closely tailored designer shirts and spike their hair with styling gel when they are off-duty."

Not to be flamebait here, but as an openly gay (and Jewish!) person I read this and think to myself that they're probably just not "open" about it. EK probably has a lot of young gay men flying for them, but the top brass just "looks the other way". If you don't believe me, then pull up some of their FA Ab Initio graduation ceremonies on YouTube and see for yourself. Stevie Wonder could see how gay some of these boys are!



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25 Pe@rson : To be fair, on my recent US flights the average cabin crew age was noticably lower than before - just 110-years'-old.
26 SW733 : Yes but that's the law...homosexuality is illegal there...there isn't really much they can do about it.
27 Pellegrine : Oh of course they do! Let's not let anyone remain naive here. But we also know how many gay men and women cower in their closets in America and the o
28 JAL : Wow! I never knew things were so nice! Cool!
29 MaverickM11 : There's absolutely no comparison
30 Pellegrine : Let's give the Middle East time to catch up now. Can't expect everyone's level of human rights to be equal. This is only the truth which I speak, sor
31 Captaink : Excellent point. EK wish on the matter is some independent of the fact that homosexuality is illegal. SO they cannot hire any openly gay person accor
32 Gr8Circle : There's no need for the Middle East to "catch up" with anyone.....what is perceived as a "right" in the western world may not be acceptable in other
33 Airbazar : In this day and age, anyone who takes an FA job with EK (or many of the ME carriers as well as the likes of SQ), has no excuse not to know exactly wha
34 Sq_ek_freak : I don't quite get what you are talking about? If you are speaking of being openly gay, then yes as per the laws of the UAE you can't be - though my m
35 Pellegrine : Whatever one's beliefs on the homosexuality issue, it is not really of much consequence. It is imperative that the Gulf catches up to the west in ter
36 Sq_ek_freak : If by higher education you mean an undergraduate college degree, then many of us such as myself out here do, from pretty prestigious schools at that
37 Pe@rson : Yup. Same throughout the Middle East and the 'cultural Middle East,' i.e. North Africa. For example, I would never show affection to my wife in publi
38 Gr8Circle : That's a different issue and I agree with you when it comes to treatment of labourers, etc. But your original comment seemed to be specifically with
39 FuturePilot16 : I'm sorry but that is an ignorant thing to say. Just because they have their own morales and beliefs doesn't mean that they are behind in any type of
40 MaverickM11 : That's just plain wrong.
41 FuturePilot16 : How do you figure that?
42 Pellegrine : Sorry this got really OT. My comment was actually on both issues, although some may not like it I realize. And I apologize if I seem ignorant on that
43 Lightsaber : Question: Is there a reason behind this? Tradition? Customer preference? Ever read "The World is flat" or the previous book "The Lexus and the Olive
44 FuturePilot16 : This is getting a little off topic however. You don't have to apologize because I didn't mean ignorant. But just to know that the world can't change
45 Ojas : That is totally incorrect. Qatar crew are well treated and having seen their apartments their work schedule and life style I can assert that. I inter
46 CaliAtenza : ooops, what i meant to say was that i would rather see the hair then let it be hiding underneath the hat (like the girls on the asian carriers). Ive
47 Milesaddict : For those finding EK harsh.... I'd like to say working for SV is really worse maybe the worst. My ex wife works there.... But having my own business i
48 Jetjack74 : That's what many say from the outset, but then reality sets in. Walking on egg-shells is not the way I'd want to live. Totally, I see at an indenture
49 Wn700driver : Yes, they do need to conform to certain basic minimums. This is because those standards are the best available. Not perfect, I'm sure, but best. The
50 CV580Freak : It is Spring Break every day here, champagne, bikini clad girls, naked gay male F/A's what more would you want ......................
51 KiwiRob : More of this and none of that for me
52 Babybus : Everytime I see EK and other Middle east crews walking through the airport I always think how miserable they look compared to BA and EZY crews.
53 Czbbflier : Sorry- off topic for a sec.... "They", being the Chinese? HA! They OWN the western money. The infiltration will come the other way.... Like the U.S.
54 AirIndia : But then there are also those highly impressed flyers who loved the service on the ontime london flight connecting smoothly on to their 3am Chennai f
55 L1011Lover : I suggested deletion!!! How can you make such a bland and actually false generalisation? You make it sound as if ALL US flight attendats were like th
56 Post contains links JOEYCAPPS : It seems, from this thread, that I'm the only one that thinks this way, but I'm going to say it anyways. I am PERFECTLY content with the FA's here in
57 Airtropolis : Just came back from a trip about 2 weeks ago flying SIN-LHR and back with a stopover on the way back in Dubai. The flights I had were generally good
58 Skyguy : L1011: It's clear from your post that you are as intolerant, defensive, and biased as you may accuse me of being with my statements. Besides, why all
59 L1011Lover : EXCELLENT!!! Thank You so much... And welcome to my "Respected Members List" Best regards L1011Lover
60 L1011Lover : By the way, who are you to make such a statement? Any numbers any proof to back this up? Who are you to set the standards of what is to be desired by
61 Post contains links and images L1011Lover : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHRVJABB6w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqfb7ZCjs7s&feature=related I think this is proof enough for almost EVERYTHI
62 Tonystan : You are kidding right??? QR are the worst and most oppressed employer in the Middle East! I flew for them for 2 years and would not wish them on my w
63 CaliAtenza : same here .
64 JOEYCAPPS : You reap what you sow. You want good service, you give good attitude. The problem with this entire argument you're posting, is YOU'RE the one being b
65 Sq_ek_freak : That's an odd statement to make, especially because you can't really tell a person's frame of mind at that one specific point you see a group of crew
66 Post contains links Adools : Here's the blogs of two individuals who really seem to enjoy working for EK. I've even considered applying for an FA job with EK after reading their t
67 Sq_ek_freak : Ahaha Sodwee (not his real name) is a great ambassador for our airline!
68 CaliAtenza : i havent flown domestic in the US much, but every flight ive had, the FA's were nothing but nice, smiling, and happy to attend to any requests i had
69 CaliAtenza : hey sq_ek_freak, what kind of service can i look forward to on the BLR-DXB sectors and DXB-LAX? I'll be trying out EK for the first time next month an
70 Sq_ek_freak : Since you are transiting on to LAX, I'm assuming you're on the EK 569 rotation out of BLR which I believe usually is an A332 (sometimes it can be a 7
71 CaliAtenza : Hey thanks so much . Helped out a ton . I'll prolly (more like hopefully) be with my gf on the flight and she pretty much conks off to sleep as soon
72 SQ_EK_freak : I really can't answer that one for you, it depends pretty radically from person to person. Some find it unnoticeable, while others find it a living h
73 Ojas : Yes that is right EK is generous in the meal portions, and I have liked their catering. I hear you. My FA friends in QR really have a harrowing time
74 SQ_EK_freak : Thanks Haha yes oh dear Mumbai. The flight is so short but we need to dish out a full meal service (with recent enhancements no less). Then there's t
75 Ojas : Well all of QR's India flights as of now are direct turnarounds. All of QR's flights to India arrive between 0300 hrs and 0400 hrs and have an averag
76 CaliAtenza : it must be killer to do the red eye and THEN do the morning turn around. I know passengers themselves are grumpy and just wanna get onto the flight a
77 Rolfen : Fun, fun fun, is it all about fun? They never seem to mention that some people do a career there. You get a house, a nice pay, and career prospects, n
78 Joecanuck : I spent almost 2 years in Doha and met many QR flight attendants. Not a single one of them was happy with their jobs. They don't even know who to tru
79 AirframeAS : Is this Zinc club only open to the EK FA's?
80 Post contains images CaliAtenza : well im 5-10 and like 170 lbs, but lean  . I fly out on EK this month  . Ill make sure to ask the FA's on the flight about the Zinc club  [Edited
81 SQ_EK_freak : No but it's a favorite amongst our contingent. You'll get a laugh and maybe an invite out of it
82 Ncfc99 : Thats your opinion, and not one shared by me, at 6ft tall and 200lbs+, i found it to be fine. I would certainly recomened EK, and have done. Each to
83 AirframeAS : I'd then would LOVE to go to the Zinc club! Dubai....here I come!!!! LOL!
84 JoeCanuck : True...many thousands fly EK every day. I'll pay more elsewhere if I have to not to fly their 777's. I find those seats inferior to SQ, EY, CX and QR
85 Malaysia : Well I have several friends who work for all these carriers as F/A Well one quit GulfAir to go to Etihad and felt it was better. The ones in EK are fe
86 L410Turbolet : Yes, it's awful. 6 hours from Europe to DXB and then another 6 to BKK was almost unbearable for me (180 cm, 90 kg). A true cattle class. I cannot ima
87 Ncfc99 : Again an opinion. I have flown DXB-SIN-BNE on the 777 and it was fine IMHO. I really struggle to see why everyone complains about it. What is the dif
88 L410Turbolet : Seat pitch won't tell you how (un)comfortable the seat actually is once you sit in it. I've flown BA 777 only once, almost a decade ago so I can't te
89 Ncfc99 : Are you saying that it is the quality of the seat that is an issue, rather than the 3-4-3 layout and width/pitch?
90 L410Turbolet : I don't know whether the problem is the seat as such or the layout or combination of both, I've done only 2 flights on EK's 777s so far (and do not p
91 PlaneHunter : I recommend to make a seat width comparison - numerous carriers with standard layouts on A330/340s, 747s, 767s and 777s (3-3-3/2-5-2) don't offer wid
92 CaliAtenza : ill make sure to write up a trip report when i fly to LAX on the 18th , including a careful examination, maybe even a tape measure check hehehe; of th
93 Antonovman : Are all the cabin crew now housed at the new complex at Al Quoz ? I worked for Emirates up until a year ago and we were the first lot to be sent out t
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