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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7730 times:

First, This may not be the right forum for this, so feel free to move it.

I was flying (actually sitting on the ramp at MSP- the trip report is coming) the other day and I was wondering why popcorn isn't served on planes. It seems to make a lot of sense. It is easily and compactly stored in its unpopped form, and is pretty easy to make. Unlike peanuts, few people are allergic to it and popcorn is actually quite healthy if you don't soak it in butter. For that matter, popcorn can be made several ways to suit different tastes with kettle corn, butter, cheese, etc. Popcorn is fairly kid friendly and doesn't make crumbs, so any potential mess is easy to clean up. Plus, it would be a nice touch with a shiny new IFE system.

Then when I was in MKE, the small museum there stated that the traditional YX cookies were the result of an executive's tinkering in the galley. It went on to say that popcorn was tried but was unsatisfactory but didn't elaborate.

So, why isn't popcorn served on planes? The only problem I can think of is that microwaves cannot be used on planes, but of course popcorn has existed for far longer than the microwave.


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User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7727 times:

I wouldn't say easy to clean up. Might as well start with pumpkin seeds too

User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7635 times:

Have you ever checked the ground of a movie theatre after a show? If airlines start with popcorn onboard they have to double their turnaround times to clean up all the mess after each flight.  rotfl 


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User currently offlineMeta From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7532 times:

Popcorn can still be greasy even if you add a little butter which can lead to stains. Also, popcorn is not that easy to clean up, especially if people step on it, then you have crumbs like everything else.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7518 times:



Quoting Meta (Reply 3):
especially if people step on it, then you have crumbs like everything else

Popcorn doesn't not make crumbs. It can break up a little, but otherwise flattens. It vacuums off carpets rather easily and sweeps pretty well too, but sticks to solid surfaces if there is anything sticky already on the floor.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7477 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
Popcorn doesn't not make crumbs. It can break up a little, but otherwise flattens. It vacuums off carpets rather easily and sweeps pretty well too, but sticks to solid surfaces if there is anything sticky already on the floor.

That is what I was thinking. It can get everywhere, but can be vacuumed pretty easily. At least, it is probably easier than spilled trail mix, or a stepped on cookie.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7466 times:

Why don't we put in a cotton candy machine while we're at it....  Wink

I would venture to guess that perhaps the altitude an a/c cabin is pressurized to may affect the popping process. Water boils at a lower temperature the higher the elevation, and since when one is popping corn, you're heating up the moisture inside of the kernel, the lower boiling point may not yield as good of a kernel of popcorn.

The best option would be to use prepackaged popcorn. If it's a complimentary item, have in a snack-sized bag (similar in size to the small bags of chips you'd get in your sack lunch). If it's a B.O.B. option, have a larger bag (Like the 3-4 oz bags of chips you see at gas stations.).


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7465 times:

on the other hand. would it really be that nice to have the entire aircraft cabin smelling like popcorn on an 8hr jump across the pond? Well I was kinda refering to the smell of a theatre, but maybe it's different on a plane  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7422 times:

The "popping and thumping" sounds may freak out some passengers... The next time you're making popcorn think about what it would sound like to suddenly hear the sounds associated with making popcorn at 35,000 feet. Also, one bag of popcorn serves a maximum of what, five people? For a load of 100 pax with 2 microwaves on board and an average cooking time of two minutes that would mean a prep time of at least 20 minutes, not to mention the F/As would then have to put it into separate bowls for each passenger, and the popcorn smell isn't one most people want to smell for three hours. Its just to much of a hassle for what its worth.


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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6039 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7359 times:



Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 8):
and the popcorn smell isn't one most people want to smell for three hours.

And what if *gasp* they BURN the popcorn? That's not a pleasant smell.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7354 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
That is what I was thinking. It can get everywhere, but can be vacuumed pretty easily. At least, it is probably easier than spilled trail mix, or a stepped on cookie.

Cookies and granola are absolutely harder to clean up. As are sun chips.

But as soon as you put anything on the popcorn, like salt, oil or sugar, all bets are off.



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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3629 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7332 times:



Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 8):
and the popcorn smell isn't one most people want to smell for three hours

Not to mention that it's toxic. And I imagine that it's one of those things that airlines wouldn't want to expose themselves to liability over. Not that it'd be very easy to prove a link between exposure to popcorn popping on planes and "popcorn lung", but you can just imagine that some people would try - in court.



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User currently offlinePlatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7261 times:
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Quoting LH4116 (Reply 7):
on the other hand. would it really be that nice to have the entire aircraft cabin smelling like popcorn on an 8hr jump across the pond? Well I was kinda refering to the smell of a theatre, but maybe it's different on a plane

Thats what I was thinking. Popcorn smell travels like no other and hangs around. But it does sound like a good idea when watching a movie on a plane, maybe pre-packed.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7253 times:



Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 11):
Not to mention that it's toxic.

No it isn't.

Microwave popcorn additive is toxic.

Popcorn itself is not toxic. Nor is the odor from air popping. There is hardly any odor at all to air popping corn. Most of the smell of "fresh" popcorn popping is the oil cooking and reacting with the corn as it heats.



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User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7158 times:



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 9):
And what if *gasp* they BURN the popcorn? That's not a pleasant smell.

The burned popcorn smell will stay in my house for days even with the windows open! I can just imagine what it would be like on a plane.

I think pre-packaged, cold popcorn, as an addition to airlines' snack baskets would be a good idea. The pigs I mean passengers find a ways to make messes with any food given to them so I don't see how popcorn would be any worse. Not to mention, most airplanes don't even have microwaves.



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1572 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 7066 times:

mmmm.... Smart Food White Cheddar popcorn would be WONDERFUL on my next flight...

as for popping it on board... that would be too much trouble.



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User currently offlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 718 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6970 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Thread starter):
The only problem I can think of is that microwaves cannot be used on planes

Although I have never witnessed a microwave on an aircraft, our 7 ex-BA 763s at Qantas have a circuit breaker for the no. 2 oven in the forward galley that says "102 Oven (or Microwave). And on some of these aircraft the no. 2 oven is a slightly different (cosmetically) model to the remaining ovens. Some of the aircraft spent time in the BA Long Haul fleet, I believe.

Anyone at BA know about the microwaves? It may have been left over from the days of First Class on the 763s. I was only staring at the microwave placard this morning - hence the interest.


User currently offlineIrelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6945 times:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Maybe it is just me on this one.

The sound of people mercilessly devouring a bag of popcorn is...shall we say...not appealing for me over a period of 20 or 30 minutes. I go to movies sometimes and the cacophony of 300 people munching on popcorn during quiet scenes is kind of distracting.

Of course with engine noise and such to drown it out, it wouldn't be as big of a deal.

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User currently offlineBlackBox From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6944 times:

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User currently offlineReality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6920 times:

Popcorn may not be harder to clean up, but it is EASIER TO SPILL, and therefore there will be more of it on the seats and in the aisles than cookie crumbs or peanuts, etc. It is light weight and virtually jumps out of the bag or box. Airborne in minutes, haha. It'll be all over the place. This must be the reason it is not served.

[Edited 2009-06-17 20:21:49]

User currently offlineGaystudpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 453 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6881 times:



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 6):
Why don't we put in a cotton candy machine while we're at it....

How about Corn Dogs...

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
Microwave popcorn additive is toxic.

What is the additive ingredient that is toxic?


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 6689 times:



Quoting Irelayer (Reply 17):
I go to movies sometimes and the cacophony of 300 people munching on popcorn during quiet scenes is kind of distracting.

On the other hand, isn't one of the reasons to why popcorn is better suited as a "movie snack", the fact that it doesn't make that much noise when munching on them. Have you ever compared it with chips? So imagine being in the same theater with 300 people munching on pringles, now that would set me off  Wink

Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 16):
Anyone at BA know about the microwaves? It may have been left over from the days of First Class on the 763s. I was only staring at the microwave placard this morning - hence the interest.

IIRC BA installed those microwaves in the Club Kitchen self service bar, when introducing the NGCW seats...

But what if... Instead of serving the pre-packed popcorn cold, maybe they could reheat the bags, and then serve them to the passengers. Wouldn't that give sort of a feel of freshly popped popcorn? I remember being on an OK flight where they did pretty much the same thing, but with pre-packed sandwiches...



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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4992 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 6666 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Thread starter):
The only problem I can think of is that microwaves cannot be used on planes,

I have never seen any restrictions about use of microwave ovens on aircraft.

It could however be a new restriction, as I do remember years ago ... late 1970's ... Continental serving popcorn on their B747 flights between ORD and LAX. It was served as "Popcorn and Grog" in the Pubs (coach lounges).



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User currently offlineFxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 6637 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Thread starter):
So, why isn't popcorn served on planes?

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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9398 posts, RR: 29
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 6522 times:

next on the list will be that awful artificial cheese and nachos and 1 liter coke drums. I don't go to the movies anymore since that started and if that ever takes place in airplanes I will stop traveling.

The next logic step would be doubling the size of the seats in economy and that should be the ultimate reason for airlines to ban that crap from their flights.



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25 MasseyBrown : It isn't especially healthy, however. Corn and corn products quickly convert to sugar in the digestive process. Diabetics, for example, are warned to
26 ER757 : You beat me to it! I was going to mention the CO coach pub on their DC-10's and 747's. They definitely had popcorn at that time - flew ORD/LAX and ba
27 UK_Dispatcher : EY serves lobster popcorn as an 'anytime snack' in Business
28 Max550 : I don't know that you would really save any weight over peanuts or some other snack. You would need something to pop the popcorn, and it would have to
29 ReuschAir : Regarding popcorn it HAS to be the smell. Even if it isn't burnt. We all know this from work when, in the afternoon, someone makes popcorn at 3:00pm.
30 Goldenshield : Long John Silvers (US fish fast food) has that, and while it's not REAL popcorn, I would prefer it to real popcorn, as it's not as messy---unless you
31 Lightsaber : This is great material for a commedy sketch... FA puts a large batch of unpopped popcorn into the mircowave in the aft galley. As he/she goes to answe
32 BMI727 : I have never seen it specifically banned, I just thought that it may interfere with instrumentation. (like PEDs) I know that for this reason microwav
33 BWI5OH : I don't know if any of you have been to a movie theater in awhile, but lately, almost all of the theaters I've been in serve pre-made popcorn! The gla
34 Rampart : Equip every airplane with a dog. A Labrador, specifically. 5 minutes, and not a trace of popcorn crumbs on the floor, between the seat cushions, and
35 Nomadic : LOL - this is a lot closer to the truth than you realize. In the 1970's when airlines were fighting for market share on the New York/Miami run, the l
36 Viscount724 : If airline passengers were willing to pay as much for popcorn on flights as they do when they go to the movies, airlines would be highly profitable.
37 Rampart : More correct than you think. Movie theaters don't make any money at all on tickets. Studios do. Theaters actually have to pay studios to show the mov
38 KSANcoFlyer : I like the smell of burnt popcorn as long as it's not too intense.
39 Spacecadet : And what is it that you expect airlines to use to pop their popcorn? Do you expect them to be carrying a bunch of Jiffy Pop to pop on the gas burners
40 WildcatYXU : 2,3 butanedione AKA diacetyl. They use it instead of butter (it has buttery smell and and taste).
41 Riyadhnurse : Popcorn could pose a "choking " hazard to small kids and over indulged adults.Ever try to suction a obstructed throat with alcohol & popcorn?
42 USAirALB : Its a fire hazard, Midwest tried it before the cookies. Hot oil and an airplane DONT Mix
43 Speedbird2155 : The 767s that QF have never had the NGCW or the Club Kitchen which is relatively recent. The Club Kitchen concept came IIRC when the NGCW was being i
44 Post contains links Rikkus67 : OK..OK.. I have the perfect solution: Popcorn Twists! For those of not from Canada or the midwest USA, these have been a snack staple for around 50 ye
45 DesertFlyer : A hospital I do some contract work for has banned employees making popcorn at work because it has been burned too many times, each time requiring evac
46 Ditzyboy : Though the Long Haul 763s did have a First cabin until the late 90s, no? I worked on an ex-BA 763 again this morning and it had the same notation und
47 Lightsaber : Wait, you could be onto the next BOB profit center! What do you feed to small kids!?! Maybe I just watched it too much as a kid... Lightsaber
48 Speedbird2155 : Yes, they did have a First cabin until a few years ago. These were removed, along with the CW cradle seats and replaced with NCW and WTP cabins and w
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