Njdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 713 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4253 times:
With stations like FLL, MCO and JAX losing DL widebody service to ATL, something that all the airports saw a lot of....What happens to all the ground loading equiment. Each destination had sometimes 3 or 4 or maybe even more widebodies at a time on the ground. So does Delta leave the pallets and other items at each airport or do they move them to other destinations?
KristiaanD From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4226 times:
Normally, airlines distribute the equipment through-out their remaining HUBs. Sometimes as expansion (Because the WB's will be repositioned to another HUB or destination), or as replacement. Or they sell them to other airlines/ground handling company's.
It would be useless and expensive to let them stay behind..
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BigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4073 posts, RR: 56 Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4184 times:
Whatever didn't fit on the last planes out probably gets trucked back to ATL for storage or to whichever other airport might need them.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21208 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4172 times:
Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 2): Whatever didn't fit on the last planes out probably gets trucked back to ATL for storage or to whichever other airport might need them.
Does it? ORD definitely still has some cans sitting around, and they haven't had widebodies since before the 762s were retired.
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Njdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 713 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4160 times:
I know here in FLL Continental keeps a few pallets and containers just sitting around.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21208 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3655 times:
Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 5): B) Since MCO has so many 757s, often times 767s are subbed in. So they need them for backup.
I think this is a compelling reason to keep widebody equipment around any station that sees several daily 75s (JAX and FLL included). When a 75 flight cancels, putting something larger on the next one is frequently the best way to deal with the throng of passengers. Given that DL's cost to do this is next to nothing, it seems like the potential savings outweighs the cost even if it only happens a few times a year.
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WA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2037 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3479 times:
Some airlines keep spare equipment at non-widebody airports in case a widebody is diverted there, or for charters.
I've seen UA and AA widebody equipment at the airlines' MSP cargo areas, even though neither airline has scheduled widebodies into MSP in many years, if ever. Both airlines will bring widebodies into MSP occasionally as weather diversions from ORD, or for sports charters.
Malaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3183 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3466 times:
When flying CO out of SFO, I notice they do have a few loaders parked between two gates, but CO doesnt fly widebodies into SFO currently, they should truck them back to IAH or LAX
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N160lh From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 279 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2862 times:
I remember when Delta started downsizing DFW we sent all widebodies out with no voids... God knows for Delta's sake all equipment not being used should find its way to ATL... Back in the day at DFW it was very easy to find equipment... just head to the bone yard and pickup what you needed... However, in ATL... MUCH MUCH MUCH different story... I remember times in ATL I considered selling my soul (no not really) for a string of 4 transporters...
Makes me wonder if DL at DFW even has a container loaders anymore...? Well at least on July 1st it will go back to the way it should always have been... with a Delta controlled ramp!
By the way I have been on airliners.net forums in about a year... Hows it been going...? All the US flagged people still hate Airbus' and everyone else still hate Boeing's..? US carriers still suck compared to European carriers...?
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N160lh From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 279 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2777 times:
Well to prove its been a while the above post should have the word "not" in it in the last paragraph... Couldn't you use to edit your posts on here...?
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777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 20 Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2341 times:
Within the USA, CO used to have k-loaders at EWR/CLE/IAH/HNL/DEN/LAX/SFO/MSY/MCO/FLL/ORD. Not sure who has what now, but I would wager that, outside of the hubs, HNL, and LAX, there is still WB servicing equipment at SFO/MSY/FLL/MCO. Those stations see the heavies on a slightly more frequent basis (all equipment subs, generally), and I can tell you from experience that a bulk-loaded 767 does not make for a happy ground crew...
777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 20 Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2253 times:
I should also note that most airports large enough to handle more than the occasional widebody aircraft have at least one k-loader somewhere on the property, belonging either to a handling agent or an airline. On diversions and irrops, the equipment can be rented or (in the old days) 'borrowed' by the ground crew receiving the aircraft. I've also seen containers offloaded with scissor jacks and forklifts, but that was long ago and far away.
TLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 584 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1976 times:
The ATL to TPA, FLL, MCO, JAX 763 service will likely return for the Winter tourist season so I would imagine the equipment will stay. A 764 or two returning during that time wouldn't be completely out of the question.
Iadbudd From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 1909 times:
It's expensive to load and transport loaders and equipment, unless they are in good shape the hubs don't want them, it's better just to keep them in the boneyards
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