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First A380 For Lufthansa  
User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 539 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 27772 times:
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A photo has come up of MSN038 the first for Lufthansa in the FAL.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aviationphotos/3652941583/

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User currently offlineDTManiac From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 689 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27637 times:

Good sight. I visited the Hamburg Airbus plant a couple of months ago where they already had a couple of cockpit sections of LH 380s. Must have been two or three at least. You could see the customer from the big sign that was hanging on the scaffolds next to the aircraft sections.

I still dont really understand why some cockpit sections were in Hamburg. Can someone shed light on this? I thought they would never leave France until after final assembly.

When is this bird going to be delivered btw?



Gig 'em Aggies!!!
User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2352 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27503 times:
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Quoting DTManiac (Reply 1):
When is this bird going to be delivered btw?

Delivery is scheduld for around late November IIRC, EIS is January. Might recheck these dates might have shifted since I last asked my guys earlier this year.



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User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27418 times:

So is this still classified as a whale or is it now a giant Kranich?  Smile

Thanks for the link, beautiful sight. Does anyone know yet what she'll be named? I'm still hoping she'll be the "Hamburg".


User currently offlineTietkej From Germany, joined Jun 2009, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27197 times:



Quoting Flood (Reply 3):
I'm still hoping she'll be the "Hamburg".

Good call - and so do I.

Beautiful city and my hometown  Silly


User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 27181 times:
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Should be rolled out of the FAL in late July.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27153 times:



Quoting Flood (Reply 3):
I'm still hoping she'll be the "Hamburg".

I can't wait to see the finished product and I would like to be First to Fly on her first commercial flight too!

If I was given the choice I would name her Ludwig van Beethoven.  airplane   champagne   cheerful   airplane 



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7058 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27095 times:

Great, can not wait to see her fully painted. Looking forward flying it someday.
Another awesome sight will be the first LH 747-8I.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27033 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 7):
Another awesome sight will be the first LH 747-8I.

Oh I really want to be First to Fly this one commercially as the LH 747-8 will be the true First to Fly passenger flight for this aircraft type.  airplane   cheerful 



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineLHPII From Croatia, joined May 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27000 times:



Quoting Flood (Reply 3):
Thanks for the link, beautiful sight. Does anyone know yet what she'll be named? I'm still hoping she'll be the "Hamburg".

.....it has been mentioned a few times by LH that the first A380 or one of the first ones will be named Munich for the city's 850th anniversary which happend to be last year........but since the aircraft is being heavily delyed I don't know if that is still the case.


User currently offlineFCA767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1741 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26964 times:



Quoting DTManiac (Reply 1):
I still dont really understand why some cockpit sections were in Hamburg. Can someone shed light on this? I thought they would never leave France until after final assembly

Maybe they build the cockpit sections there  Smile


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26873 times:
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"Munich" or "Hamburg", aren't these names on current 744s at the moment?


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And still so long until it will be in Service for LH...

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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26803 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):
If I was given the choice I would name her Ludwig van Beethoven.

I approve!


User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26712 times:
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Quoting DTManiac (Reply 1):

I still dont really understand why some cockpit sections were in Hamburg. Can someone shed light on this? I thought they would never leave France until after final assembly.

All major fuselage parts are made in Hamburg they are then shipped to Toulouse for final assembly and then go back to Hamburg for outfitting.


User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26546 times:



Quoting Tietkej (Reply 4):
Beautiful city and my hometown

Maybe they'll name her "Reeperbahn"  biggrin  ... I imagine the press would have a field day with that.


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 948 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26537 times:

i dont know if this has been asked in another thread, but where is it first flight does anyone know?


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User currently offlineLHPII From Croatia, joined May 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26497 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 11):
"Munich" or "Hamburg", aren't these names on current 744s at the moment?

Yes they are.....but LH shifts names within the fleet quite easily.
There have been already many cases of renaming aircraft, for example A346 D-AIHI was named Erfurt which used to be the name of A320 D-AIPZ which still flies in LH fleet


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26500 times:
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Quoting LHPII (Reply 16):
es they are.....but LH shifts names within the fleet quite easily.
There have been already many cases of renaming aircraft, for example A346 D-AIHI was named Erfurt which used to be the name of A320 D-AIPZ which still flies in LH fleet

Ok, but will there be 2 airplanes with the same name in the fleet at the same time?

Means the LH 744s will be re-named then?

Quoting Flood (Reply 14):
Reeperbahn

Good one Big grin

wilco737



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26471 times:

Oh and I would choose Johann Sebastian Bach as a name for the first Lufthansa 747-8.

Then I would be even more proud to be First to Fly the two new LH Big Aircrafts!

Proud to be First to Fly on Ludwig and Johann Sebastian!

           

If any of you know Mr W. Mayerhuber's personal email address please PM me
I want these two names for the first LH 380 and 747-8! 

[Edited 2009-06-23 04:53:37]


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User currently offlineLHPII From Croatia, joined May 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26286 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 17):
Ok, but will there be 2 airplanes with the same name in the fleet at the same time?

Means the LH 744s will be re-named then?

Well, most probably that name will be transferd from B744 D-ABVL to let's say D-AIMA and D-ABVL will for example be renamed after the city of Bonn that is currently the name of the oldest B744 in LH fleet which would probably be sold or retired at the same time anyway.
LH will get 6-7 A380s in 2010 which is quite a number in tems of capacity, so I guess at current economic climate and even if economy does pick-up in the next year it will still retire some of the oldest B744's in 2010.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26260 times:
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Quoting LHPII (Reply 19):
Well, most probably that name will be transferd from B744 D-ABVL to let's say D-AIMA and D-ABVL will for example be renamed after the city of Bonn that is currently the name of the oldest B744 in LH fleet which would probably be sold or retired at the same time anyway.

I want that the name of Hamburg stays on the 744. Why not naming the A380 after Bonn or some other City in Germany which is not painted on an airplane yet?
Or calling it Germany, as it is the first A380 in Germany registered. Or maybe "World"  Smile

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User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26223 times:

There's a nice read on a pilot's first experience on the A380 on AINonline:

http://www.ainonline.com/news/single...ge/article/flying-the-airbus-a380/


User currently offlineDtmaniac From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 689 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26223 times:



Quoting FCA767 (Reply 10):
Maybe they build the cockpit sections there



Quoting AeroplaneFreak (Reply 13):
All major fuselage parts are made in Hamburg they are then shipped to Toulouse for final assembly and then go back to Hamburg for outfitting.

That I am not sure of. The Airbus guy who guided us through the hangars told us that it was important for the French that the cockpits are manufactured in France.



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User currently offlineLHPII From Croatia, joined May 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26050 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 20):
I want that the name of Hamburg stays on the 744. Why not naming the A380 after Bonn or some other City in Germany which is not painted on an airplane yet?
Or calling it Germany, as it is the first A380 in Germany registered. Or maybe "World"

Since I guess you are from Hamburg and everybody knows your affection for Boeing I have even better suggestion:

LH should transfer that name onto the first B748, by then you should make sure to switch from Cargo back to Passage straight to B748 as a captain, and we could all have a big party in Hamburg for the christening of the jet.........and yes, if Hamburg had some anniversary in 2011, when B748 is due for delivery, that could help the plan a lot!  Smile


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26031 times:
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Quoting LHPII (Reply 23):
Since I guess you are from Hamburg and everybody knows your affection for Boeing I have even better suggestion:

Good guess Big grin

Quoting LHPII (Reply 23):
LH should transfer that name onto the first B748, by then you should make sure to switch from Cargo back to Passage straight to B748 as a captain,

If that would be possible, it would be great - but it isn't.

Has it been decided yet what kind of name the 380s will get? Will it sill be cities or will it be famous people now?

wilco737



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25 CptRegionalJet : I´ve herad through the grapevine that the the A380 fleet will be named after continents lik LH Cargo used to do with their 747's,so there would be a
26 LHPII : It has just been mentioned that one of the first ones will be named after the city of Munich. Nothing more on the subject! Except for tailsigns that
27 Kiwiandrew : why not 'great red light districts of the world' ?, bet nobody else has done that
28 WILCO737 : Hmm, ok. Thanks. Why Munich and not Frankfurt where it will mostly fly from? Maybe because of the celebrations in Munich. 20. Hehe, sure, why not Bet
29 LHPII : Unfortunatelly two few continents for so many A380's on order (15+10options) maybe countries? who knows!
30 LHPII : exactly!
31 Olympic472 : How about naming her Walgagat?
32 AeroplaneFreak : The third for Lufthansa will enter body join in early April.
33 VirginFlyer : Can you imagine an aircraft named "Karangahape Road"... (sorry, Kiwis hijacking the conversation here, ignore us...) V/F
34 Post contains links Flood : haha, that's horrible... sounds like a bone disease. It seems we already have two named "Dresden" in service: D-ABTL : 747-430 http://www.airliners.n
35 Boeing747_600 : My vote is for Lederhosentaschenknopffertigungmachine
36 DTManiac : Thank you for making fun of my hometown where I will head back after finishing my work in Bochum tonight!
37 WILCO737 : Not making fun of the town, only the name. Imagine people from all over the world trying to read this name. It is tough, you cannot deny it. I am sur
38 Flood : oh c'mon, it's all in good fun apologies if it offended you.
39 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I also have Richard Wagner and Johannes Brahms for further LH A380s.   and how about Hildegard von Bingen? She would make an awesome name for a 747-8
40 Dtmaniac : Hehe, you didnt offend me. I hear stuff like that all the time. Maybe I should have added a smilie to my post though. Would have made that more obvio
41 WILCO737 : Good But imagine this name would be on the A380.... wilco737
42 AirbusA370 : Why not name it after famous aviation websites, e.g. "airliners.net"? This would be quite a "plane-nerd-magnet", wouldn't it?
43 LH526 : this years LH april fools joke was the first A380 wll be baptised Juppi Heesters
44 Flood : I can already see myself standing at the gate in FRA and up pulls their newest A380 "Bum-Bum Boris" So many aircraft, so many possibilities
45 Sralfalo : In 2011 HAM/EDDH (Hamburg Fuhlsbüttel) will celebrate it's 100th birthday, making it one of the oldest airports in the world.[Edited 2009-06-23 12:0
46 Rleiro : I'd name it "Heino" Saludos, Roberto.
47 Heavierthanair : G'day In my view Johann Sebastian Bach definitely deserves to be the first to be named if the A 380'ies are named after composers, leave the 747-8 for
48 SXDFC : Why not name it WILCO737 after our own moderator hehe I look forward to when she is finally painted, although I was kinda hoping LH would give the 38
49 MAH4546 : Any word on routes? Last I heard the three top canidates for the first A380 service were Frankfurt-Miami, Frankfurt-Bangkok and Frankfurt-Singapore, b
50 KiwiRob : Are there any knockshops left in K'rd? I thought they all moved to Fort Street
51 Boeing747_600 : Beethoven uber alles!
52 Profcalvin : A few questions. Sorry if they've already been announced or answered. 1. With BBI (Berlin Brandenburg International) opening in 2010(?) won't LH want
53 LH526 : The largest LH jet TXL sees as of Juli 1st will be the A321 to Frankfurt ... there is no transatlantic service to JFK for example, let alone enough m
54 Profcalvin : Thanks for the info. I lived in Berlin for a year a couple years ago and always noticed that the only trans atl. from Berlin in general was CO to EWR
55 Dampfnudel : That would make my mom happy. How about naming all A380s after German states? I vote for "Bayern" (Bavaria) which happens to be where all of my Germa
56 MAN2SIN2BKK : Or "Patpong" as it is bound to be used on the BKK-FRA route at some point
57 Allegro : Make that three votes for Beethoven ... though Bach or Brahms would be good too! So which route will this plane be flying? I think I read FRA-JFK? Tr
58 Flyabunch : One option that I haven't seen would be to use the names of the 16 German states. That would work unless they exercise the 10 options...It would also
59 WILCO737 : There is a saying that Mallorca is a German state as well as there are soooooo many Germans going there on vacation wilco737
60 Tietkej : Lol. I miss Mallorca....except for all the German tourists there. A little far from Sydney though. I suggest we call her 'Elbe' . Three reasons: 1. T
61 Columba : No, the A380 will all be based in Frankfurt. LH will open longhaul routes from BBI, I can imagine a few US East Coast cities like New York, Washingto
62 MadameConcorde : There is a village by the name of Buxtehude on the flight path right near the airport in Hamburg where they paint the 380s. In this village there is a
63 Burkhard : Sharing this view, we have enough composers for all A380 Airbus is able to deliver until 2030. We even have enough strating with B for the complete L
64 PanHAM : A320 D-AIPA is named Buxtehude. Naming planes after composers might not be such a good idea, Richard Wagner for instance is not so popular in some are
65 Columba : I don´t think that the A380s will be named after historic persons. With the exception of the old 747-230Fs that were named after continents and the A
66 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Anton Bruckner is from Austria if I am right? http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/bruckner.html He is out for naming the aircrafts if born (and died) in A
67 Columba : As I said above all LH aircraft are named after cities and Federal States so yes it the A320 is named after the city next to Hamburg
68 LHFADUS : Hate to be a kill-joy, but forget all the Bach's, Beethoven's, Brahms' and so on. Not gonna happen in my oppinion. The only fact we got is, that LH is
69 LH526 : Little known LH baptism facts: The most given name in LH history is .... ESSEN! not Berlin, Bonn or Frankfurt: The following aircrafts beared the Name
70 OA260 : Nice pic, great to see LH closer to their delivery date.
71 Gigneil : Its a 767-300ER. Delta has not flown a 767-200 in revenue service for a long while. They still do, for the moment... You can be sure LTU/AirBerlin wi
72 MadameConcorde : I remember the German Pope flying on board a LH Airbus going by the name of Regensburg. The captain was one of his theology students in the past turne
73 Gigneil : I remain very, very hopeful we'll get an LH 380 service here in Chicago so I can give it a shot sooner rather than later. NS
74 MAH4546 : Bangkok and Miami, supposedly. Who knows, though, things can change rapidly the way everything is going.
75 LH526 : That's why I said: "The largest LH aircraft" Sure there are bigger ones flying itno TCL, just not from LH
76 Boeing747_600 : Make that Four votes. See my earlier Reply 51!
77 Castroprauxel : GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR And to the subject: the first LH A380 should most definitely and absolutely be named after Berlin, especially this year.
78 PanHAM : Take it easy, people always forget that one can see the moon over Wanne-Eickel from there...
79 Columba : I vote for "Berlin-Tenpelhof" " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lufth...62/L/ I think we are having a similar situation like when the 74
80 Pnwtraveler : While I don't think the route will support it, I would love it if LH sent the 380 into YYZ just to offset EK. Send it on the days that EK doesn't fly
81 Aleksandar : If I can suggest name, why wouldn't it be Angela Merkel?
82 LH526 : Well, in regards to beauty, neither the A380 nor Angela Merkel are ..... ah nevermind
83 Caspritz78 : While a great idea, LH names its planes after German cities. Only exception was a plane that was called Gander/Halifax to say thank you for the great
84 Aleksandar : Well, they look similar in certain ways
85 MD-90 : That one can be named Brunhilde.
86 Osteogenesis : Frankfurt will be a great place for spotting once the LH A380's and B747-8's are part of the fleet! Why not name the A380s after German aviators? Otto
87 LH526 : Well, this is as inappropriate as the German Government flying with A310 titled "Luftwaffe" to Moscow and Paris ... it's not totally bad, just gives
88 Columba : Hugo Junkers
89 Robffm2 : You miss Beate Uhse!
90 Osteogenesis : I do not agree that it is inappropriate to fly with the A3120 titled "Luftwaffe" in to countries at war with Germany in WWII. Actions are what matter
91 Babybus : I think it should be called City of Berlin but I guess that name must be already taken. I'm looking forward to seeing it flying over London.
92 LH526 : I don't have a problem with that especialy not with "being german", I have a healthy relation to the past, my family was hunted by the Nazis, aI'm su
93 Osteogenesis : I do not believe that the old A310 painting was ever perceived aggressively by anyone. That was just a home made problem. A A310 is not comparable to
94 Columba : It was the problem of Johannes Rau, before him nobody cared even at home. For around 50 years Douglas Dc 6s, Convair 440s, Lockheed Jetstars, VFW 614
95 Osteogenesis : Yes I also once read that he had a problem flying with that plane. What I do not understand is why it was changed on his request? Would be very inter
96 Post contains links and images Osteogenesis : Old: View Large View MediumPhoto © Marc Hasenbein New: View Large View MediumPhoto © Pawel Cieplak[Edited 2009-06-28 05:36:30]
97 LHPII : it is taken, but it is transferable as well!
98 Columba : There is no real story behind, President Rau complained about that he has to fly on state visits to Countries like Poland and Israel with an aircraft
99 Post contains links Robffm2 : There is a new article in aero.de about the preparations for the A380 fleet entry. Lufthansa says they are considering "20 possible destinations". Any
100 Aircellist : I guess nobody will be surprised if I second that... Except maybe for Wagner, against whom I've got reservations... But then, instead of Wagner, why
101 DL752 : I would name the first ever 747-8 William E. Boeing. Or LH could name their first 747-8 that. Just a thought. DL752
102 LHPII : I don't think so!
103 NA : Thats sad if true. LH should retain the names of the large cities for the 747, let it be 744 or later 748I. If its cities, I favour Hamburg (because
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