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Does Djibouti Airlines Use An-8's?  
User currently offlineNed From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 968 times:

In the Spring of 1997 I bought a ticket from Asmara to Djibouti on Ethiopian Airlines. Somehow I was allowed to have only a half hour stop over in Addis, and as a result of a 45 minute delay in departure from Asmara, missed my onward connection. ET put me on a Djibouti Airlines flight two days later (their own next sceduled service was not for several more days) which I had to take because the visa ET had aranged for me was only valid for two days! It was a scarry experience, let me tell you! I've become a lot more interested in aviation since that flight and I am hoping that someone out there can help me solve one of the key bits of information I lack.

The plane we flew on had been whitewashed, although not very effectively, because Belavia titles were clearly legible underneath. The plane was definately a former Soviet model, and I now suspect it may have been an An-8. Here are some details that might anyone pinpoint the model type for me.

- It was a high-wing turbo jet, and I beleive had two engines.

- The floor of the cabin was made of plywood and there was no proper bagage compartment. Bagage was kept on two sets of shelves that were located between the cockpit and the passenger seats.

- The crew was caucasian and spoke either Russian, or some other slavic language.

I read recently that An-8's were originally cargo planes and that any passenger versions were later conversions. Also, that the CIS revoked the certificate for this model in 1997 and that since then they have been used mostly in Africa and the middle east. I suspect that a group of Belorussians or other CIS citizens bought the plane on the cheap at home, flew it to Djibouti, and hired out their services to Djibouti Airlines. I suspect they were needed because what I was told in Addis was that Air Djibouti had gone bankrupt and that Djibouti Airlines was a recent replacement (there is some confusion on this point on most lists of world airlines in my opinion). Can anyone correct me or fill in any details?

Thanks!

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User currently offlineNed From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 940 times:

There must be someone out there with a good knowledge of Soviet planes. Can't anyone help me?

User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 936 times:

Ummm.. this may be wrong, but int he A/C data and history section of this website, the An-8 is a Turbo-prop, so not really a jet... hmmm...


Next flight.... who knows.
User currently offlineNed From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 925 times:

Yes, that's right, it was a turbo prop. Does anyone else know anything about this?

User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 926 times:

Belavia has never operated the An-8, so it would be impossible that the aircraft which you flew on with Djibouti Airlines was an ex-Belavia aircraft.

Also, the An-8 is not currently, nor has been, in the fleet of Djibouti Airlines.

Cheers

Scotty
Aviatsiya/Авиация



User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 927 times:

The certificate of airworthiness for the An-8 was revoked by the Antonov Design Bureau.

The aircraft that you flew in was most likely an An-24/26 (24 is pax, 26 is cargo, but some are converted like with Cubana). There are quite a few in use in Eritrea and Ethiopia.

Like the An-8, it is also a high-wing twin turboprop (which is what I assume you actually meant). An-8's are/were fairly rare, even then.

As for the plywood floor etc, please don't think all Antonovs are like that. It is more the fault (or low standards) of the airline.

To explain the foreign crew, it is possible that the aircraft was a wet-lease. That means crew are included in the price. Many companies from the former USSR lease their aircraft to countries in Africa.

Another possibility is that it was simply sold to that airline, and the crew hired separately since there is a surplus of pilots etc because of reduced demand in the home countries.

For somebody who doesn't speak Russian etc, you can say those languages all sound the same, but it many offend people from Belarus, Ukraine, Bulgaria or any other Slavic country if you say they all speak 'Russian'.


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 916 times:

An-8 is a very old type, quite comparable to An-12:

http://www.bird.ch/Russians/An8/AN8P01.html

Once Andrej Tupolev saw it, he called it "a good woodshed!" ("horoshij saraj!")


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