AF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1041 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8009 times:
Quoting OD-BWH (Thread starter): AF shows the Y section onboard its 777's with 3x3x3 config., while in reality they're 3x4x3. Why is that? What are they trying to tell their passengers?
Ia Orana OD-BWH,
AF is not trying to fool its customers... what the problem is is that they never removed the 310 seat version of the 77W. AF had for a while the 2 versions, while the retrofit was going on. Now that all 77W are in 3x4x3 they should remove the 310 seat 77W version. That's all !
You must check the 325 seat version to get the correct 77W seat plan.
TGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 874 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7599 times:
Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 8): They have both: 77W with 9 abreast and 10 abreast. Both is shown on their cabin plans:
Sometimes I wonder if it is useful to write on this board, as obviously some people post without reading previous answers.
As explained by AF Cabin Crew:
Quoting AF Cabin Crew (Reply 5): the problem is is that they never removed the 310 seat version of the 77W. …. Now that all 77W are in 3x4x3 they should remove the 310 seat 77W version.
So ALL 77W are in 3x4x3 config, and 772 are following (they will install a Y+ cabin, announced with 8 abreast, and downgrade the Y cabin to Y- with 10 abreast).
The problem being that AF website is bad regarding cabin maps, as well in terms of update (the 743 stayed years after they were removed from service, the 744 CIA are still there while they have all been converted back to the B747-400 Lignes Internationales if I am not mistaken!) as in terms of drawing quality. Just check the following seatmap to see what is a good quality map:
Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 8): Usually the 3x4x3 configuration are planes that are been used to replace B747CIO (caribbean and indian ocean) configuration, mainly for touristic destinations such, HAV, SDQ.........
Initially only, as the 10 abreast config was indeed introduced on the specific CIO version with small business class.
But now there are in “normal” 77W which served the high yield routes, as they are the only AF aircrafts (with 772) with a first class cabin.
So if you have to go to a high yield route in Eco, you have a substandard level of comfort. Unfortunately all companies do not pay business for their staff !
Quoting OD-BWH (Thread starter): Anyway, I've been onboard the 10 abreast seating and I don't think it was cramped.
Was the seat next to you free?
Because for me it is really cramped! And unlike EK they did not even give more pitch when reducing the seat width.
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7): Why fly on a 10-abreast 777 when plenty of airlines (by far the majority) use much more comfortable 9 abreast layouts?
Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans. (AF/KL for example)