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How Far Will The EU Consolidation Go?  
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

With the approval of the SN takeover and the agreement between Bishop and LH regarding the BMI takeover I have to wonder: How will the consolidation continue? Will the EU let them go as far as it gets, as long as at least 2 major airline companies remain?

Just to compare fleet numbers:

LH Passage: 261
Air Dolomiti: 19
Austrian: 41
BMI: 54
Brussels: 45
Eurowings: 34
Germanwings: 28
LH Cargo: 19
LH Cityline: 72
LH Italia: 8
Swiss: 78

This puts the LH group at a total of 659 aircraft.

The AF/KLM group is just as big:

Air France & AF Cargo: 261
Régional: 59
Brit Air: 43
KLM & KLM Cargo: 115
KLM Cityhopper: 61
Martinair: 18
Transavia: 31
Cityjet: 27
VLM: 18

= 633 aircraft

Now a possible acquisation of either SK (LH) or AZ (AFKLM) would take them both to more than 800 aircraft.

Meanwhile, the No.3 in Europe, BA, has "just" 242 aircraft (including CityFlyer and OpenSkies), followed by Iberia with 124.

Where do you see the European Airline industry in 5 years?

[Edited 2009-06-24 02:39:36]

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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

whatever commercial necessity dictates will happen. What can the EU do? Just to show how limited their possibilities are, they told LH / SN to give up slots. This is far from reality. BRU/FRA or BRU/MUC are mainly feeder services, which other airline could be interested in slots for these services, that would simply not be commercially viable Any carrier except Deutsche Bahn would lose their shirts on a purely point-to-point service..now, FRA/BRU is down to 3 hrs 6 minutes by ICE, hence, there is competition in place already.

The EU commission shows old thinking in not observing these facts.

You also forgot the low cost and leisure carriers who play a major role in Europe, unlike North America. Take BRU/MUC, the competition here could be FR on Charleroi / Memmingen. I am sure the EU commission would not take that into account.
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It does not need the EU commission to enforce competition. Competition happens when it is commercially viable and subsidies are not allowed.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Just checked, Frankfurt-Airport ICE Station to BRU-Midi on direct ICE trains several times daily 2h 52 minutes. Who needs competing point-to-point air service on such a route? Even by car consiering 40 minutes drive to the station and parking can't match that timing.

LH has 8 daily flights on that route which are mostly for connecting traffic feeding into/out of FRA.


There are hundreds of similar city pairs which the EU might restrict on mergers without doing much good for the travelling public.


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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1865 times:



Quoting Racko (Thread starter):
followed by Iberia with 124.

airfleets.net shows Iberia with 115 aircraft active, and Air Nostrum with 65 (incl Denim wetlease) so that number seems a bit low



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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4386 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Can't we book AZ as AFR/KLM already making them the clear market leaders? If not, LH group and AFRKLM group will survive anyways. Once BA has given up to dominate a merger with IB, that might create the third competitive group - if not than BA will remain the regional airline of a large city with horrible airports on a small island they are today...

Add in three large LCC groups around FR, Easy Jet and Air Berlin, with Thomas Cook somewhere in between - makes as many large airlines as the US have.


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