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EU To Lift Ban On Several Indonesian Airlines?  
User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1813 posts, RR: 8
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Had a quick search and couldnt find anything.

It seems the EU may lift a ban on four Indonesian carriers flying to its members.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...r-indonesian-airlines-in-july.html

The airlines are:

Garuda
Mandala
Airfast Indonesia and
Premiair.

It says officials are travelling to Brussels next week for talks.

I think i have heard of Garuda improving its image recently? What about the others? I suppose they must have.


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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

Being discussed here: Indonesia Aviation 2009 Part 2 (by GARUDAROD Jun 6 2009 in Civil Aviation) - reply 26 onwards...

V/F



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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2995 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2542 times:
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Soon as lifted Garuda will be back at Amsterdam daily

User currently offlineGffgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

Don't expect to see any Indonesian airline other than GA in Europe anytime soon. The other three aren't banned but are not likely ever to fly to the EU in revenue service.

User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2995 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2484 times:
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Gffgold correct to a point however its just possible that charters might operate from time to time to those relatively close by French atolls and outposts of the EU perhaps !

User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1813 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2478 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 2):
Soon as lifted Garuda will be back at Amsterdam daily

Is there anywhere else they may fly into once the ban is lifted? Where is there a large Indonesian community in Europe?



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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2995 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2358 times:
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Danfearn77

Large Indonesian and Malay populations (Dutch East Indies)
Try Amsterdam !

The UK services traditionally carried heavy tourist traffic to Bali and Australia.

The Australia traffic has almost certainly gone elsewhere, and Bali has yet to recover from the terrorist outrages, compounded with the a lack of direct European services.

A Gatwick - Denpasar (Bali) link is a possibility - Much more than Jakarta, however a frequency is likely to be only two weekly and may well be combined with a German stop at either Frankfurt or Munich.

That about covers it really.


User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2203 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 6):
A Gatwick - Denpasar (Bali) link is a possibility - Much more than Jakarta, however a frequency is likely to be only two weekly and may well be combined with a German stop at either Frankfurt or Munich.

I'd agree. I think GA will want to see results from CGK-AMS first. This will put them head-to-head with KL, which might be interesting. It is also true that there are a whole lot more options for travel between Indonesia and Europe than there were when GA last operated the route. The mid-east carriers have been expanding their presence at CGK and while most of their business is to/from the Gulf there are lots of onward connections at keen prices offered by EK, EY and QR.

If GA could get enough tour operators on board then a LGW-DPS service is not impossible but such a service would remain very vulnerable to negative sentiments about the Bali tourist trade.


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