SESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3518 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 18196 times:
Unfortunately nobody here will likely have access to that information, the only real answers people here could provide will be hearsay: "I've heard it's XXX-XXX." Only people within management and network planning really have privy to that information, though DL in the past has listed some of its most profitable routes at conference calls and other investor meetings. In the past, ATL-NRT and JFK-IST (I think?) have been mentioned, but who knows at this point?
The most profitable route is not the most prestigous, or a route with high frequencies, or with high load factors. The most profitable route is the one that generates the most income against a comparatively low operating cost.
Most African cities are lucrative because seats to/from certain places are precious. European airlines serving African cities generally refer to them as profitable, and carriers like LH, AF, BA have extensive networks with good feed at the European end. There is reason to believe that this is the same for DL.
Other routes that may be profitable are perhaps the Asian routes, since business travel means higher yields (usually).
Routes that are definately not profitable are the leisure, tourist routes, usually to Europe. We know that much at least.
Dunno about DL's domestic network-I guess it's an entirely different ballgame when applying the rules of profitability.
AirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 662 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 17443 times:
I wish ACV-SLC was on that list. But according to the local papers, the route may be cut if loads don't improve. I have flown it twice since May and appreciate the much shorter travel times to MCI and EWR. SFO is not a fun hub to transit through when the weather is bad. The early morning DL flight to SLC and late evening flight back to ACV seem to be full most of the time but the loads on the midday flights are not too good.
I'm leavin on a jet plane. Don't know when I'll be back again....
EXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 17233 times:
Quoting OA412 (Reply 14): Right because another airline in DL's position would continue to fly the route after the revenue guarantee runs out if that route were unprofitable. Yeah sure
What it shows is DL is dishonest. They take the money then quit. The honest thing to do is not take the money and not fly the route. This is pennywise and pound foolish . Communities will not approach DL in the future for air service. I am willing to bet DL now has a horrible reputation now in BFL, MRY, SBP, YKM, SLE etc
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5528 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 17190 times:
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 15): What it shows is DL is dishonest. They take the money then quit. The honest thing to do is not take the money and not fly the route. This is pennywise and pound foolish . Communities will not approach DL in the future for air service. I am willing to bet DL now has a horrible reputation now in BFL, MRY, SBP, YKM, SLE etc
Oh please. It shows no such thing. Again, show me which other airline is refusing to take money that is handed them by communities in the interest of being "honest". Can't name one? Didn't think so.
Flavio340 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 15980 times:
I know the most profitable route for NW in MEM was/is LIT. It was because it had the highest average fare compared to cost to operate. It was profitable by percentage and not money generated. So I guess the question is "What is profitable?" Percentage, Gross, or Net?