727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5767 posts, RR: 20 Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10736 times:
Around 3:15, I was headed to the airport post office and when I looked over to the runway I was shocked to see a US 737-400 with front gear down, slides open, fire truck around it. It was probably heavily raining about 30 minutes prior. Probably just a slip & slide, but still shocking when you are not preparing to see something like that.
Also, why did a B6 190 park over at F around gate 80-81? Anyone know?
WNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1322 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10693 times:
The news says that the front gear collapsed on landing (it also says the tired blew).... so that's what you saw.
FLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 250 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10718 times:
USAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2681 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10350 times:
PieTpaFlSun From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10296 times:
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LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12364 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10252 times:
Ouch, ooks like part of the front gear snapped off ! Any further idea what happened - blown tire, locked brake, gear not locked down? Another 'perfect' landing by a US a/c with a problem.
LV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1823 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10242 times:
Quoting USAirALB (Reply 4): Hmm..Billy Mays was on the plane
Really? Because a few episodes ago on his show on the Discovery Channel he was talking about how he was going to get into a fraction jet deal.
BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2762 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9831 times:
Quoting USAirALB (Reply 4): Hmm..Billy Mays was on the plane
UsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1003 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9664 times:
Jawed From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 482 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9484 times:
That is crazy. Could it be related to the hard landing of that plane?
Aviators99 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 434 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9469 times:
Quoting Jawed (Reply 12): That is crazy. Could it be related to the hard landing of that plane?
This article says he was hit on the head during the landing:
Phatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1323 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9193 times:
If Billy Mays' death turns out to be true, and it is related to this incident, then this will qualify as TPA's first commercial airliner accident involving a fatality.
WakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1288 posts, RR: 18 Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8864 times:
Sounds like Billy Mays hit his head pretty hard upon landing.
"All of a sudden as we hit you know it was just the hardest hit, all the things from the ceiling started dropping," MyFox Tampa Bay quoted him as saying. "It hit me on the head, but I got a hard head."
AAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 13 Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8833 times:
Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 17): Sounds like Billy Mays hit his head pretty hard upon landing.
"All of a sudden as we hit you know it was just the hardest hit, all the things from the ceiling started dropping," MyFox Tampa Bay quoted him as saying. "It hit me on the head, but I got a hard head."
Can someone say lawsuit?
The FAA is already deflecting blame though, saying Mays wasn't wearing his seatbelt upon landing.
How would a seatbelt help with something hitting his head?
JKJ777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8698 times:
This makes you wonder if he died of a subdural hematoma caused by stuff hitting him on the head. This is a silent killer that shows little symptoms initially after the incident. His wife said that he was not feeling well when he went to bed.......this could all be a coincidence, but something in me is saying it is related.
Great job by the pilots though
Phatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1323 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8696 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 16): But would it really be as he died at home hours after . I guess it could be but depends on various things.
This could be the "Talk and die" syndrome that claimed Natasha Richardson's life.
In addition, after an airliner accident, when people die days after their injuries, are they not counted as part of the fatality count during an investigation?
Laxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 392 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8369 times:
Mays' death was related to the landing because at touchdown, he hit his head and his wife said that he was not feeling well that night. Also, US confirmed that Mays was a passenger on that flight.
Also, when did US start flying 734s, I did not know that they operated them.
EXMEMWIDGET From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 188 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8366 times:
Wow! Billy Mays family stands to clean up (no pun intended) if his death can be linked to this hard landing.
Flighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 7499 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8366 times:
Of course. If Mays died from a brain bleed related to the flight, that is an aviation fatality. Especially since it only took a matter of hours. The point is, he should wear a seatbelt AND the airline would be foolish not to insist on a medical workup of a passenger who was hit on the head. It is easily correctable if he got checked.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 25102 posts, RR: 60 Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8335 times:
Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 20): In addition, after an airliner accident, when people die days after their injuries, are they not counted as part of the fatality count during an investigation?
I assume now an investigation will have to be carried out ''post mortum'' to establish what killed him. RIP anyway , very sad.
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25 D L X: They've been flying them forever. If I'm not mistaken, it was US Airways that practically designed the 733 and 734. By that I mean, US (and Piedmont)
26 Copter808: Uh, isn't it a bit early to make that kind of statement? First, the cause of death needs to be determined. Although it appears likely the landing inc
27 AAce24: US had about 40 734's at one time. Although they are currently phasing them out, due to exit service by 2012 I believe.
28 7673mech: Piedmont was the first operator of the 734. The took delivery in 1988. They merger between then UsAir and Piedmont was approved in late 1987 and fina
29 Sniffmom: TMZ now says FAA spokesperson is retracting her comment about the seatbelt: "Laura Brown, the FAA spokesperson who gave TMZ this quote about Billy May
30 OPNLguy: Should the autopsy confirm that, I wouldn't find it at all surprising, not after what happened to Natasha Richardson.
31 JKJ777: Subdural Hematomas are not like going and getting a bandaid. He had no symptoms and felt there was no need to get checked out. However, the internal
32 Afrikaskyes: I just saw the Billy Mays interview at the airport when he explains that he got hit in the head and he does not appear well. That must have been some
34 Phatfarmlines: I stand corrected. I've never heard about this incident. Here is the NTSB probable cause docket: Pan Am/Piper ground collision at TPA Source: NTSB
35 Highflier92660: Certainly a lot of websites like TMZ.com are printing conjecture like that but it's too early without autopsy results (due Monday afternoon.) He cert
37 AAce24: Now it's being reported that Mays hit his head on the overhead bin, not that something came down and hit him. Now that's a whole different story.....a
39 BigGSFO: I wish it were that easy. In today's litigious American society, a legal team will still try to find fault with the airline. There will probably be a
40 GSPSPOT: Isn't there legal precedent someplace?
41 AAce24: I agree that this probably won't be the end of it, but it will make it much harder to win a case.
42 BigGSFO: Agreed. It probably will never make it to court. It will probably be settled. US will want it gone ASAP.
43 ImperialEagle: Especially if it was someone whose luggage was way overweight. We have all dealt with the idots that insist on putting their anvils and bowling balls
44 Crownvic: He is quoted as saying exactly as " that the things from up above- the ceiling dropped down"....I nterpret this as meaning the oxygen masks...I have b
45 Ryefly: Of course a picture is worth a thousand words, but but it sounds as if instead of the bin door opening and a bag falling out, a entire section of the
46 Atrude777: FAA has RETRACTED their statement saying He was not wearing his seatbelt. It is NOT confirmed now he did/didn't wear his seatbelt nor is it confirmed
47 LTC8K6: If he hit his head on the overhead bin, then he wasn't wearing his belt, unless the belt failed... but it is too early with all the different info.[Ed
48 LTC8K6: That suit turned out to be legitimate. The coffee was way too hot to serve and McDonald's knew it was way too hot to serve. Unfortunately, the actual
49 JetBlueGuy2006: Looking at the interview, he doesn't look to bad, tired as he stated...but he sounded a little off. Maybe that is just how he sounds while not workin
50 DL752: I saw this as well. It was still on the runway and seemed as it were being pulled by a tractor at 10 in the evening. Hope everyone is doing well. It m
51 Falstaff: Which is bound to happen one of these days because people are carrying more stuff on board so they don't get charged. All kinds of overweight bags ma
52 Luv2cattlecall: That was my first thought... It'll be truly sad/bad publicity if it turns out that all this could have been prevented by not charging for the 1st che
53 D L X: That's a red herring. People have been bringing more and more luggage on board before and without regard to the bag check fee. A large number of peop
54 Bond007: Well, it isn't that easy to get more than 50lbs in a carry-on that'll fit in an overhead, trust me ..possible yes, but not likely unless you fill it
55 Richierich: TMZ was the first to report MJ's death. Mainstream news media took another hour or two to confirm, although several quoted TMZ as a source. Generally
56 Flashmeister: If this ends up in court, I could see US Airways looking to negotiate a settlement rather than proceed to trial, especially considering both the ambi
57 Richierich: I can't argue with that - I really don't expect this will get to trial. My guess is that US Airways has a lot of wiggle room to settle for a lower am
58 Sniffmom: "The Hillsborough County Medical Examiner said Billy had no head trauma and heart desease was the most likely cause of his death." http://www.tmz.com/
59 Txjim: Anyone remember the days of the original Compaq portable, the sewing-machine size PC that was popular in the mid 80s? It was a common sight to see th
60 Contrails: CNN is reporting that Billy Mays' death was due to a heart condition. I still believe the crash could have contributed to it.
61 Bond007: LOL .. I actually did travel with one of those things ' They were heavy just to carry ... and I'd never had believed you, if you told me what an iPho
62 SEPilot: If the autopsy showed no head trauma then there is no way to prove that. If you have advanced heart disease anything can contribute to your death. Li
63 Flighty: JFK777, I only meant it is "easy" for the neurosurgeon to go in, for whatever my views on that are worth; probably nothing from what I have heard, thi
64 Contrails: You're absolutely correct. I was referring to the possibility that the mishap (not a crash, sorry about that) could have set a series of events in mo
65 Whappeh: I just saw on the news here in Central FL that the Tampa autopsy said there was no indication of head trauma.
66 Aviators99: Although it's moot now, the sort of thing you are talking about is the reason that US should have insisted that he seek a medical evaluation of his h
67 F9fan: I'll wait until we get the autopsy results. As JKJ777 stated, these head injuries can go days or even weeks without showing any symptoms and then, PO
68 AirframeAS: On the Billy Mays thread in Non-Av, I asked about if the coroner had looked to see if there were any bruises on his hips to indicate if he was wearin
69 Arffguy: Uh, wrong! That's not the way the medical system works. If a passenger is conscious, alert and oriented (person, place, time and event) they can tell
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