Fxramper From United States, joined Dec 2005, 5148 posts, RR: 99 Posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 27565 times:
BA #77 (G-RAES) was parked at LAD while the HU A346 taxied out on the apron and collided at the stand with the Boeing. BA reported the wing hangs significantly down following the collision. Anyone see a picture?
SW733 From Namibia, joined Feb 2004, 3423 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 27609 times:
Well I tried to check BA.com flight status but the result states that they do not fly to Luanda...someone should have told the crew that, this whole situation could have been avoided
Seriously though, hope everyone is ok. Sounds pretty nasty if what BA is saying is true. There are some pretty cramped places on Luanda's tarmac
Dano1977 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 26350 times:
According to Pprune.
A new Aileron has been borrowed from Boeing, and its making its way to Luanda, along with a BA team of engineers to fix. Thats the only damage that has been reported.
If you go to Pprune, and go to the Africa section, there is a whole thread about it on there. along with the possible cause of the accident from an eye witness.
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TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2832 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 26071 times:
The BA B777 was parked on the stand.
The Chinese A340 was taxying too fast onto a parking area and was 18m off the centre line, when it skidded on skydrol contaminated ground.
The BA needs an aileron, which has now been robbed from a BA B777 at Cardiff.
Pawsleykat From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jul 2005, 1808 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 25564 times:
I didn't even know Hainan flew to Luanda.
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8): The Chinese A340 was taxying too fast onto a parking area and was 18m off the centre line, when it skidded on skydrol contaminated ground.
Jeeezo, 18m off the centre line. How would one not even notice that they're that far off it?
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8): The BA needs an aileron, which has now been robbed from a BA B777 at Cardiff.
At least BA have managed to get a spare Aileron in time. Good ol' BAMC
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SW733 From Namibia, joined Feb 2004, 3423 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 25511 times:
Quoting Fxramper (Reply 6): I thought I recalled you mentioning previously on the site you flew into LAD.
Aw shucks I'm remembered now? Yeah, LAD can sometimes be a (believe it or not) cheaper way to get to WDH than via South Africa, so I have done it a few times, both on TAAG and BA...not always, because a lot of the times the fares are incredibly high, but every once in a while you get lucky. Plus, Luanda isn't a half bad place actually.
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8): The Chinese A340 was taxying too fast onto a parking area and was 18m off the centre line, when it skidded on skydrol contaminated ground.
Yikes, sounds like an awfully big mistake on the Hainan crews part. If my non-photographic memory serves me correctly (probably not), it can get tight, but anything can get tight when you are 18 METERS (!!!) off the centre line...I mean that's about 60 feet, wow.
LHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1199 posts, RR: 26 Reply 16, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 23612 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 14): I wonder what the capitain of the Cardiff BA777 did say about that. embarrassed
Any 777s at CWL are undergoing heavy maintenance or cabin fittings and able to provide spare parts if needed quickly. BA don't operate any scheduled flights to CWL, let alone with a 777!
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TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2832 posts, RR: 23 Reply 17, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 23612 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 14): I wonder what the capitain of the Cardiff BA777 did say about that
Keep up. Cardiff is the Major Maint Hangar for BA Widebodies.
The aircraft don't have Captains.
A new aileron is en-route from the USA, it was just quicker to rob one in the UK, than wait for the one in the States.
CityofAthens From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 20859 times:
Crew flew back to London via LIS with TAP; Chinese aircraft was apparently under guidance from "Follow Me" car after landing; whether this contributed to the incident is something I don't know.
To say that ramp space is tight at LAD would be quite an understatement. I would imagine that the widebodies park in the section with the 747, so for an aileron to get knocked, the Hainan A346 must have been trying to park to the left of the BA 777. A bit too much speed going into that tight turn coupled with a slippery surface, I can easily see it skidding.
Wexfordflyer From Ireland, joined Jun 2009, 205 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 20590 times:
Anyone know the damage to the 340??
Sounds like someone is gonna get into the sh1t over this anyway.
This kind of links the a question I was thinking about earlier today. Recently had an incident with a ground vehicle colliding (well being driven into) an aircraft and putting a hole into the aircraft, not huge, but substantial enough. I was thinking the driver of the ground equipment could possibly lose his job, it was undeniably his fault and is obviously a very costly mistake to make. Is it likely a situation like this is a sackable offence?
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VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3845 posts, RR: 20 Reply 21, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 17961 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 14): I wonder what the capitain of the Cardiff BA777 did say about that
Quoting SBON (Reply 15): Any 777s at CWL are undergoing heavy maintenance or cabin fittings and able to provide spare parts if needed quickly. BA don't operate any scheduled flights to CWL, let alone with a 777!
Currently these include two 772s that have been recently delivered to BA and are at BAMC for cabin furbishment. The second of these, G-YMMT , only arrived at CWL on delivery from Paine Field on Friday last. It is not due in service for several weeks. By that time a further 772, G-YMMU that I believe was rolled out onto the Boeing flight line at PAE in full BA livery on Saturday having made its maiden flight on 17 June before it was painted, will be at BAMC. So there is no great urgency to get a spare from Boeing.
GKirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23840 posts, RR: 69 Reply 23, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13564 times:
Quoting LHR27C (Reply 16): Any 777s at CWL are undergoing heavy maintenance or cabin fittings and able to provide spare parts if needed quickly. BA don't operate any scheduled flights to CWL, let alone with a 777!
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 17): Keep up. Cardiff is the Major Maint Hangar for BA Widebodies.
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Wowpeter From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Oct 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7280 times:
Quoting Readytotaxi (Reply 24): Now from a practical point of view, who foots the bill for the damage & costs?
Is it an insurance claim like an auto accident? Confused
hahaha... I would have thought so... I wonder do airline has no claim bonus... hahaha... anyway, I think it will be an insurance claim.
26 Flylku: So would we see the captain of the 777 and 346 standing out on the ramp exchanging insurance information? Or maybe the captain from the 346 said "Hey
27 HAWK21M: Isn't there a clean up at the Airports for a fluid spillage? regds MEL...
28 Myt332: Exactly, I found it amusing at least! Said JAL flight 123.
29 BALHRWWCC: I don't think we have a no claims bonus. After the incident with G-YMMM at LHR last January. G-YMMM was broken up and parted out. With parts been sen
31 BAW217: The 777 L/H Aileron assembly came to LHR from LAX on a BA service, it was put on a truck to Ostend then went on a British Global (MK Airlines) schedu
32 AirNZ: What happened to the parts which were reportedly sent from Cardiff to save time?
33 BALHRWWCC: BA would never take the part of the two new aircraft that are currently in CWL. From what I have been told in the last hour or so BAW217 is right. A n
34 LHR27C: Doesn't have to be one of the new ones surely? Other 777s at CWL all the time for C/D checks, for which a missing aileron is not the end of the world
35 AirNZ: I wasn't remotely suggesting that anyone isn't right. I asked what happened to the aileron that was sent from Cardiff as there was no great urgency t
36 Valley1: G-YMMS is currently at BAMC minus a LH aileron. Robbed for G-RAES. At present, none of the older 777's are at BAMC. Probably now lost in the Black Ho
37 Breiz: B-6510, MSN 0475, is indeed an ex-Cathay Pacific (B-HQC).
38 Macc: heck, those boys take that A vs. B crap a bit far. So, what about the 346? 1:0 for A or what?
40 VV701: MMM no longer belongs to BA. The BA Annual Report 2008-09 details a payment received by BA for the aircraft from its insurers. It was £63 million. T
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