Fxramper From United States, joined Dec 2005, 5070 posts, RR: 99 Posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 27541 times:
BA #77 (G-RAES) was parked at LAD while the HU A346 taxied out on the apron and collided at the stand with the Boeing. BA reported the wing hangs significantly down following the collision. Anyone see a picture?
SW733 From Namibia, joined Feb 2004, 3361 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 27585 times:
Well I tried to check BA.com flight status but the result states that they do not fly to Luanda...someone should have told the crew that, this whole situation could have been avoided
Seriously though, hope everyone is ok. Sounds pretty nasty if what BA is saying is true. There are some pretty cramped places on Luanda's tarmac
Dano1977 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 26326 times:
According to Pprune.
A new Aileron has been borrowed from Boeing, and its making its way to Luanda, along with a BA team of engineers to fix. Thats the only damage that has been reported.
If you go to Pprune, and go to the Africa section, there is a whole thread about it on there. along with the possible cause of the accident from an eye witness.
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TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2806 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 26047 times:
The BA B777 was parked on the stand.
The Chinese A340 was taxying too fast onto a parking area and was 18m off the centre line, when it skidded on skydrol contaminated ground.
The BA needs an aileron, which has now been robbed from a BA B777 at Cardiff.
Pawsleykat From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jul 2005, 1799 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 25540 times:
I didn't even know Hainan flew to Luanda.
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8): The Chinese A340 was taxying too fast onto a parking area and was 18m off the centre line, when it skidded on skydrol contaminated ground.
Jeeezo, 18m off the centre line. How would one not even notice that they're that far off it?
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8): The BA needs an aileron, which has now been robbed from a BA B777 at Cardiff.
At least BA have managed to get a spare Aileron in time. Good ol' BAMC
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SW733 From Namibia, joined Feb 2004, 3361 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 25487 times:
Quoting Fxramper (Reply 6): I thought I recalled you mentioning previously on the site you flew into LAD.
Aw shucks I'm remembered now? Yeah, LAD can sometimes be a (believe it or not) cheaper way to get to WDH than via South Africa, so I have done it a few times, both on TAAG and BA...not always, because a lot of the times the fares are incredibly high, but every once in a while you get lucky. Plus, Luanda isn't a half bad place actually.
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8): The Chinese A340 was taxying too fast onto a parking area and was 18m off the centre line, when it skidded on skydrol contaminated ground.
Yikes, sounds like an awfully big mistake on the Hainan crews part. If my non-photographic memory serves me correctly (probably not), it can get tight, but anything can get tight when you are 18 METERS (!!!) off the centre line...I mean that's about 60 feet, wow.
LHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1196 posts, RR: 26 Reply 16, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 23588 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 14): I wonder what the capitain of the Cardiff BA777 did say about that. embarrassed
Any 777s at CWL are undergoing heavy maintenance or cabin fittings and able to provide spare parts if needed quickly. BA don't operate any scheduled flights to CWL, let alone with a 777!
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TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2806 posts, RR: 23 Reply 17, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 23588 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 14): I wonder what the capitain of the Cardiff BA777 did say about that
Keep up. Cardiff is the Major Maint Hangar for BA Widebodies.
The aircraft don't have Captains.
A new aileron is en-route from the USA, it was just quicker to rob one in the UK, than wait for the one in the States.
CityofAthens From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20835 times:
Crew flew back to London via LIS with TAP; Chinese aircraft was apparently under guidance from "Follow Me" car after landing; whether this contributed to the incident is something I don't know.
To say that ramp space is tight at LAD would be quite an understatement. I would imagine that the widebodies park in the section with the 747, so for an aileron to get knocked, the Hainan A346 must have been trying to park to the left of the BA 777. A bit too much speed going into that tight turn coupled with a slippery surface, I can easily see it skidding.
Wexfordflyer From Ireland, joined Jun 2009, 204 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20566 times:
Anyone know the damage to the 340??
Sounds like someone is gonna get into the sh1t over this anyway.
This kind of links the a question I was thinking about earlier today. Recently had an incident with a ground vehicle colliding (well being driven into) an aircraft and putting a hole into the aircraft, not huge, but substantial enough. I was thinking the driver of the ground equipment could possibly lose his job, it was undeniably his fault and is obviously a very costly mistake to make. Is it likely a situation like this is a sackable offence?
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VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3801 posts, RR: 20 Reply 21, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 17937 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 14): I wonder what the capitain of the Cardiff BA777 did say about that
Quoting SBON (Reply 15): Any 777s at CWL are undergoing heavy maintenance or cabin fittings and able to provide spare parts if needed quickly. BA don't operate any scheduled flights to CWL, let alone with a 777!
Currently these include two 772s that have been recently delivered to BA and are at BAMC for cabin furbishment. The second of these, G-YMMT , only arrived at CWL on delivery from Paine Field on Friday last. It is not due in service for several weeks. By that time a further 772, G-YMMU that I believe was rolled out onto the Boeing flight line at PAE in full BA livery on Saturday having made its maiden flight on 17 June before it was painted, will be at BAMC. So there is no great urgency to get a spare from Boeing.
GKirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23776 posts, RR: 69 Reply 23, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13540 times:
Quoting LHR27C (Reply 16): Any 777s at CWL are undergoing heavy maintenance or cabin fittings and able to provide spare parts if needed quickly. BA don't operate any scheduled flights to CWL, let alone with a 777!
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 17): Keep up. Cardiff is the Major Maint Hangar for BA Widebodies.
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Flylku From United States, joined Apr 2006, 410 posts, RR: 0 Reply 26, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6389 times:
Quoting Wowpeter (Reply 25): hahaha... I would have thought so... I wonder do airline has no claim bonus... hahaha... anyway, I think it will be an insurance claim.
So would we see the captain of the 777 and 346 standing out on the ramp exchanging insurance information? Or maybe the captain from the 346 said "Hey, let's not report this. I know somebody who does great body work, cheap."
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 27754 posts, RR: 61 Reply 27, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4585 times:
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8): The Chinese A340 was taxying too fast onto a parking area and was 18m off the centre line, when it skidded on skydrol contaminated ground.
Isn't there a clean up at the Airports for a fluid spillage?
regds
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Quoting Wowpeter (Reply 25): hahaha... I would have thought so... I wonder do airline has no claim bonus... hahaha... anyway, I think it will be an insurance claim.
I don't think we have a no claims bonus. After the incident with G-YMMM at LHR last January.
Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 9): Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 8):
The BA needs an aileron, which has now been robbed from a BA B777 at Cardiff.
At least BA have managed to get a spare Aileron in time. Good ol' BAMC Silly
G-YMMM was broken up and parted out. With parts been sent to BAMC. Maybe the aileron from this aircraft was the one sent to LAD.
BAW217 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 80 posts, RR: 0 Reply 31, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3908 times:
Quoting BALHRWWCC (Reply 29): G-YMMM was broken up and parted out. With parts been sent to BAMC. Maybe the aileron from this aircraft was the one sent to LAD.
The 777 L/H Aileron assembly came to LHR from LAX on a BA service, it was put on a truck to Ostend then went on a British Global (MK Airlines) scheduled flight to LAD via TIP.
AirNZ From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Feb 2005, 2947 posts, RR: 12 Reply 32, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3537 times:
Quoting BAW217 (Reply 31): The 777 L/H Aileron assembly came to LHR from LAX on a BA service, it was put on a truck to Ostend then went on a British Global (MK Airlines) scheduled flight to LAD via TIP.
The part(s) arrived there yesterday.
What happened to the parts which were reportedly sent from Cardiff to save time?
BALHRWWCC From United Kingdom (England), joined Dec 2007, 662 posts, RR: 1 Reply 33, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3538 times:
BA would never take the part of the two new aircraft that are currently in CWL. From what I have been told in the last hour or so BAW217 is right. A new aileron was sent from LAX to go to LAD.
LHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1196 posts, RR: 26 Reply 34, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3311 times:
Quoting BALHRWWCC (Reply 33): BA would never take the part of the two new aircraft that are currently in CWL
Doesn't have to be one of the new ones surely? Other 777s at CWL all the time for C/D checks, for which a missing aileron is not the end of the world for a couple of days if it gets a stranded aircraft back into service quicker. Anyway, it sounds like plans changed (they often do in these situations).
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AirNZ From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Feb 2005, 2947 posts, RR: 12 Reply 35, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2900 times:
Quoting BALHRWWCC (Reply 33): From what I have been told in the last hour or so BAW217 is right.
I wasn't remotely suggesting that anyone isn't right. I asked what happened to the aileron that was sent from Cardiff as there was no great urgency to expedite one from Boeing, or why wasn't it used if it was sent?
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3801 posts, RR: 20 Reply 40, posted (4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1485 times:
Quoting Valley1 (Reply 36): To the best of my knowledge no parts from MMM were ever sent to BAMC
MMM no longer belongs to BA. The BA Annual Report 2008-09 details a payment received by BA for the aircraft from its insurers. It was £63 million. This was a credit in the report.
The debit was a write-off of the book value of MMM, £60 million. The difference between the two figures is probably to cover other costs associated with the accident.
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