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User currently offlineUnited747-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 91 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9675 times:

I was wondering if people can fly on airlines like Polar Air Cargo or Evergreen. I know that some of their 747s have seats on the upper deck, but are they available to people? Thank you.

United747-200

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User currently offlineDeltaRNOmd-80 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9602 times:

I imagine you could if the cabin was pressurized. But I don't think any cargo airline would let Joe Schmoe ride on one of their planes for free.

User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9585 times:

Well some commercial airlines on their 747 freighters have crew rest facilities and seats for employee/crew transport. No peanuts thou  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9580 times:

Don't FedEx employees get to travel on the FedEx planes, and I also think they can take friends if they want, however they do have to pay!
Iain


User currently offlineDE727UPS From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9560 times:

There are jump seats on all cargo aircraft, and the 747's tend to have some of the old first class seats in the upper deck for company crew transportation. At UPS, there a four really nice seats on our 747's. UPS only allows a certain small group of air district employees the opportunity to ride, they are not pilots.....of course, other airline pilots are welcome anytime to the jumpseat, as are UPS mechanics. Fedex has a much more open policy. I've heard they let their rampers ride the jumpseat, don't know about other employees, and I would doubt you could just "take your friends". I'm sure you don't have to pay, either. As far as the general public being able to ride on a freighter....forget it.

User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9535 times:

As you see seats on upper deck of Freighters, they are for pilots to rest during flight. Some Freighters go oversea to about 15 to 18 hours long.... they have plenty of pilots for those flights. Too bad we cant aboard jets like those.

Let look at this Freighter.

CargoLux - LX-GCV 'City of Esch/Alzette'


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Baec777  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineAN727 From Australia, joined Apr 2000, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9522 times:

Fedex allows all international express staff to jumpseat. To jumpseat you need to be able to speak to English. There are other rules.
The jumpseats are the same as seen in Castaway. The jumpseats in a MD-11 do face backwards.
Depending on the type of the aircraft and if a crew rest is needed.
Generally Airbus 300 & 310 has 6 to 8 seats
MD-11 & DC-10 kas 4 to 6
I wonder how many jumpseats that the A380 will have?


User currently offlineJumbojettim From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9501 times:

Any permanent-part time or full-time employee at FedEx can jumpseat. They cannot bring friends. For myself, I have "jumpseated" to YMX, PHL, LGW, CDG, and ARN, cost $0. This is an incredible benefit that FedEx offers. The only drawback is that you can be "bumped" from a flight just prior to departure.

Cheers.


User currently offlineTupolev154B2 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9494 times:

Doesn't UPS run charters with their cargo-configured 727's?

User currently offlineAN727 From Australia, joined Apr 2000, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9479 times:

Not all FedEx staff can jumpseat. Only FedEx Express staff can for example FedEx Ground cannot jumpseat. Not all US FedEx Express can jumpseat, I believe domestic staff cannot jumpseat.

User currently offlineMarian Siegert From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9476 times:

Yes you can.

But there are some restrictions.

I was working for a international forwarding company,
and we had our own planes (ATLAS ACMI).

Via HUB (for example LUX) we could fly to HKG.
Infact it was very cheap and convenient.

They have (Atlas Air "Spirit of Panalpina") some seats there, which are very comfortable.

Self catering, door to flight deck is always open, its really an expirience.

But you can only do it, if you come / work for an forwarding company or that Aircraft operator.


User currently offlineFxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9481 times:

As stated, ALL Fedex Express employees (rampers, couriers, service agents) and FedEx Corporate div employees can jumpseat on fedex planes. THe ohter companies (FedEx Ground, FedEx Logistics, FedEx Trade Services, FedEx Pizza Delivery, etc...) cannot jumpseat.

You must somprehend and speak english, take a certification test every six months... and a few odd other requirements (no facial hair, dress requirements). In addition, there are some exceptions... but usually they go under Animal Handlers and Special Cargo COuriers and such. No, i cannot take my freinds.. (i wish.. and so do they).

Its a great benefit, especially if your young and single and like to bounce around. But again, you can be bumped at anytime... and the boxes have priority over any jumper. But i think a number like only 30-40% of the seats are used system wide. I've personally been all over the US and to HKG, ANC, HNL, SFS, SYD, and few others on the jumpseat. I think other cargo airlines allow some employees to ride. But i don;t beleive you can buy tickets to fly on the cargo carriers... the ultimate in no-frills



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User currently offlineCrj-900 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9436 times:

If I had the choice, I would without hesitation take a cargo aircraft before a comercial flight. You cannot beat the leg room(I'm talking about wide body aircraft), or the company you get on the flight. If you get tired, roll out your ground sheet and sleep. It is difficult to get jumpseats on cargo aircraft though, but not impossible. It really depends on who your friends are and where they work(or where you work). Of course there is always a chance that you can be bumped, in the case of "Cargo Aircraft Only" dangerous goods, last minute priority company jump seats for AOG's and the like.
So, to make a short story long, united747-200, you can jump seat on cargo aircraft.
crj-900


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9435 times:

as Fxra stated the only non-employee's that usually can fly on freighter aircraft are preple that are requred to handle the cargo.

For example when they flew that dumb-ass whale from Mexice to Oregon a few years back the back end was full of Biologists to care for the whale.

Horses are another type of animal that has numerous handlers to fly with it.



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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9421 times:

I work for a cargo airline that flies 747s. I fly on them for company business. It is always an unforgettable experience.


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User currently offlineFedExIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9423 times:

You can also be bumped if the CG of the plane is so close to the forward limit. A jumper does account for a small amount of weight on the W/B manifest. I have seen a few planes leave that were so close, that a single jumper would have put the plane out of CG.

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9404 times:

I send my employees on cargo flights all the time. They are much cheaper and save on my travel budget immensely. The only complaints I get is that it is difficult to get out of the box and the packing peanuts tend to hold lots of body heat.


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User currently offlineUnited747-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9375 times:

Thanks you everyone! You have given me hopes about flying on cargos. My uncle is president of government travel on Northwest (he gets congressmen, senators, etc. to fly them) maybe he could "help me out." The reason I wanted to fly on a cargo is so I could see the cockpit action. I have flown business class on a United 747-400 and I saw the cockpit before we took off, but in a cargo, maybe the pilots would be more open for visitors in flight. Once again, Thanks alot!

United747-200


User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9370 times:

Hey JetService, ROFLMAO!


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User currently offlineRkmcswain From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9369 times:

Does UPS still do this?

Reported by the Honolulu Star-Bulletin 03/07/1997

UPS plans to start passenger flights
ATLANTA -- United Parcel Service will soon begin delivering people as well as packages.
UPS said yesterday it can convert its Boeing 727s in under four hours by loading a platform fitted with carpeting and seats through the extra-wide cargo doors. "They'll take out the package service on Friday and convert it to a passenger liner, and take it out for service again on Monday," UPS spokesman Mark Dickens said.

The weekend passenger flights are scheduled to start March 15. Each plane will seat up to 113 passengers. Flights must be booked through a cruise line or tour operator. Plans include flights from Chicago, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and Louisville, Ky., to Orlando, Fla., Puerto Rico, and Mexico.

Link to above article



User currently offlineRkmcswain From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9360 times:

Apparently they do, not exactly a cargo flight though

Link to recent article 01-15-2001


User currently offlineHS-LTA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 1999, 231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9354 times:

As I know, people can buy ticket to fly on Cargolux cargo planes.
But all HKG outbound a/c cannot allow non-empolyee cargo jumpseat.


User currently offlineBoeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 9342 times:

On some frieghters you can!


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