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737 NG Receives 180-minute Etops  
User currently offlineJZ From United States of America, joined May 1999, 252 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2113 times:

Today, FAA granted 180-minute ETOPS to 737 NG. I think the only US airline than can really take advantage of this is Aloha where it can fly 737 between Hawaii and US mainland. This is a good news for the European charters, whom can fly their 737 NG directly to North America. But pity the passengers on those flights!

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User currently offlineCO767-224ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1919 times:

Now CO can start flying 737-700's between EWR and Euorpe!!

User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1924 times:

Ugh...no thanks! Imagine being in a 737 during some of that fierce turbulence that sometimes occurs over the North Atlantic! Would rather ride it out in something larger, thanks.

User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3434 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1919 times:
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Don't look for CO to do any such thing. Bethune said it isn't going to happen, and I haven't caught him in a falsehood yet.


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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3795 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1915 times:
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Yes, Continental is talking about flying NG737's on transatlantic flights out of Newark but I think those would be flown just to Shannon or Dublin not into the rest of Europe because the 737-700/800 has a range of only 3500NM with a high load factor. The 757, also ETOPS rated, has a range of nearly 4000NM. A 737 could not fly nonstop from Brussels to New York even if it is ETOPS rated, but a 757 could.

Ben Soriano
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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Actually, 120min ETOPS allows all flights between the continental US and continental Europe.

User currently offlineFirstClass! From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (15 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Hmmm...Midway Airlines....737-700 ETOPS...RDU-LGW...nahhhh I must be dreaming. It would be interesting though.

User currently offlineJim From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (15 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

A 737-any across the Atlantic? It would feel like a week-long crossing without the cruise-ship!
Just shoot me now, ok?
jim


User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3434 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (15 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1885 times:
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CO did ( as in past tense) look into the possibility, but rejected it for a number of reasons...the size issue being but one. I'm not saying it couldn't be reconsidered at some future time, but Bethune said it won't happen on his watch.


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User currently offlineGoA340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (15 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Continental was looking to 180 min. Etops for its Micronesia subsidiary. I hope they wont fly them to Ireland...what a nightmare in 737 or any other narrow body....

User currently offlineJr From United States of America, joined May 1999, 968 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (15 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

How about SW starting a price war across the atlantic -  


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User currently offlinePmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (15 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

I have had the dubious honor to fly a 737 from CLE to LAS, I got off with LEG CRAMPS!!! On the way back I did just like I do on charter flights, as soon as I was allowed I stood up the entire flight! WN doing Dallas to Hawaii would not be fun!

User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1477 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (15 years 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

An article in the current issue of Airliners magazine dealing with Continental Airlines mentions, in passing, that they have, apparently, considered using the B737-800 on services from Newark to Shannon. Now would that be fun in a middle seat!
Not that the B757 is an ideal intercontinental vehicle either.


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (15 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

I propose they convert any 737-800 to be used on intercontinental routes to an all business class layout. That will make the flight at least bearable. They could also offer passengers crammed into those little planes a discount for their hardship.

Seriously...is the 737-800 equipped for such a long flight? How many lavs does it have? And can they stock enough food to feed passengers twice? Does the plane have adequate in-flight entertainment? I know the 757 does. But regardless, I'd have to have some incentive - like a REALLY excellent fare - to be stuffed into a 737 for more than 3 hours.


User currently offlineAdam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (15 years 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1821 times:

I dont really like the idea of a 737 flying overseas, its like the 737 probably just has enough fuel to get there, whereas a MD-11, 747, 777 etc. has enough fuel to get there, and then some to divert if they need too. I can understand the 737 on a HNL-OAK like aloha is offering because that is about a 4 hour flight, but anything in
excess of that doesnt seem safe.


User currently offlineJim From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (15 years 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1824 times:

Adam84,

I'm quite sure it would be safe. After all, its only 3 HOURS from land on one engine ;-).

Seriously, I'd fly it if I HAD to, but I'd be sure that htey were out of bourbon prior to landing!

-jim


User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5056 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (15 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

I flew on both a 737-300 and a 757-200 last month and believe it or not there was actually more legroom on the 737, or at least it felt that way. I was really really cramped in on the 757. They were the same seat (window) and same class (coach). BTW, the airline was Continental; does that make a difference


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