JZ From United States of America, joined May 1999, 252 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1342 times:
Today, FAA granted 180-minute ETOPS to 737 NG. I think the only US airline than can really take advantage of this is Aloha where it can fly 737 between Hawaii and US mainland. This is a good news for the European charters, whom can fly their 737 NG directly to North America. But pity the passengers on those flights!
Ilyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 14 Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1153 times:
Ugh...no thanks! Imagine being in a 737 during some of that fierce turbulence that sometimes occurs over the North Atlantic! Would rather ride it out in something larger, thanks.
Iahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3308 posts, RR: 46 Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1148 times:
Don't look for CO to do any such thing. Bethune said it isn't going to happen, and I haven't caught him in a falsehood yet.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3322 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
Yes, Continental is talking about flying NG737's on transatlantic flights out of Newark but I think those would be flown just to Shannon or Dublin not into the rest of Europe because the 737-700/800 has a range of only 3500NM with a high load factor. The 757, also ETOPS rated, has a range of nearly 4000NM. A 737 could not fly nonstop from Brussels to New York even if it is ETOPS rated, but a 757 could.
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Jim From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1119 times:
A 737-any across the Atlantic? It would feel like a week-long crossing without the cruise-ship!
Just shoot me now, ok?
jim
Iahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3308 posts, RR: 46 Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1114 times:
CO did ( as in past tense) look into the possibility, but rejected it for a number of reasons...the size issue being but one. I'm not saying it couldn't be reconsidered at some future time, but Bethune said it won't happen on his watch.
GoA340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1101 times:
Continental was looking to 180 min. Etops for its Micronesia subsidiary. I hope they wont fly them to Ireland...what a nightmare in 737 or any other narrow body....
Pmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1091 times:
I have had the dubious honor to fly a 737 from CLE to LAS, I got off with LEG CRAMPS!!! On the way back I did just like I do on charter flights, as soon as I was allowed I stood up the entire flight! WN doing Dallas to Hawaii would not be fun!
Dstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1351 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1082 times:
An article in the current issue of Airliners magazine dealing with Continental Airlines mentions, in passing, that they have, apparently, considered using the B737-800 on services from Newark to Shannon. Now would that be fun in a middle seat!
Not that the B757 is an ideal intercontinental vehicle either.
Ilyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1078 times:
I propose they convert any 737-800 to be used on intercontinental routes to an all business class layout. That will make the flight at least bearable. They could also offer passengers crammed into those little planes a discount for their hardship.
Seriously...is the 737-800 equipped for such a long flight? How many lavs does it have? And can they stock enough food to feed passengers twice? Does the plane have adequate in-flight entertainment? I know the 757 does. But regardless, I'd have to have some incentive - like a REALLY excellent fare - to be stuffed into a 737 for more than 3 hours.
Adam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1050 times:
I dont really like the idea of a 737 flying overseas, its like the 737 probably just has enough fuel to get there, whereas a MD-11, 747, 777 etc. has enough fuel to get there, and then some to divert if they need too. I can understand the 737 on a HNL-OAK like aloha is offering because that is about a 4 hour flight, but anything in
excess of that doesnt seem safe.
Jim From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1053 times:
Adam84,
I'm quite sure it would be safe. After all, its only 3 HOURS from land on one engine ;-).
Seriously, I'd fly it if I HAD to, but I'd be sure that htey were out of bourbon prior to landing!
Bruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5027 posts, RR: 17 Reply 16, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1035 times:
I flew on both a 737-300 and a 757-200 last month and believe it or not there was actually more legroom on the 737, or at least it felt that way. I was really really cramped in on the 757. They were the same seat (window) and same class (coach). BTW, the airline was Continental; does that make a difference
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