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What Is The Story On DL MD90 N917DN?  
User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 633 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7143 times:

I've seen the MD90's in service for quite a few years at CVG, ATL, SLC and I've always thought that there were only sixteen. But I see that Delta has another MD90 in storage N917DN. Does anyone know where this maddog 90 is? Or why it was sent there and isn't being utilized? Thanks for the help.

Tchau

DA-


They don't call em' emergencies anymore. They call em' Patronies.
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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7091 times:

What inaccurate site says it's in storage?

N917DN is a reserved registration for an MD-90 that Delta will be acquiring. It is 1 of 3 total. They were previously operated by Hello Airlines.

MSN 53552, previously registered as HB-JIA, arrived in VCV on 01APR ARN-KEF-BGR-VCV. While it is in VCV, it is NOT being stored. It is undergoing a HMV and seat re-config to bring it to DL standards.

The other two MD-90s are MSN 53553 and 53576.

Here's a news bit I posted in May: http://www.widgetheads.net/fleet/news.php?id=166


User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7001 times:

It was a document on Deltanet of all the ships in the fleet. Also listed many many DC9's in storage. Even some 14's and a 15.

Tchau

DA-



They don't call em' emergencies anymore. They call em' Patronies.
User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6854 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 1):
What inaccurate site says it's in storage?

N917DN is a reserved registration for an MD-90 that Delta will be acquiring. It is 1 of 3 total. They were previously operated by Hello Airlines.

MSN 53552, previously registered as HB-JIA, arrived in VCV on 01APR ARN-KEF-BGR-VCV. While it is in VCV, it is NOT being stored. It is undergoing a HMV and seat re-config to bring it to DL standards.

Hey Pilotboi do you know when 917DN is scheduled to leave VCV?? I just drove by last night and it is parked upfron with every opening sealed up. I'd love it to see that plane painted here in the NC. As a quick side note I saw one of the recently painted A320's, N32XNW, I couldn't see the whole registration as it was kind of far away and my son really wanted to watch the Omega 707 that had just landed.

FX1816


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1884 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6847 times:



Quoting CVG2LGA (Reply 2):
Also listed many many DC9's in storage. Even some 14's and a 15.

Yes, they (NW) are still the owner of the plane.


User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6631 times:

Of course. Now, lets bring those diesel 9's back out  Smile I flew N8913E once from MSP-CVG. Very happily and still loving it.

Tchau

DA-



They don't call em' emergencies anymore. They call em' Patronies.
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6580 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Reply 3):
I just drove by last night and it is parked upfron with every opening sealed up.

Gee, that sounds like..... storage:

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 1):
it is NOT being stored.

Oh?

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 1):
It is undergoing a HMV and seat re-config to bring it to DL standards.

Downward, no doubt, to DL standards. Less coach pitch, right? Adding a F cabin, while reducing Y pitch.

Anyhow, glad Delta is taking on these birds. Always enjoy flying on them, even in the tail.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4342 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6501 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6):
Gee, that sounds like..... storage:

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We have discussions like this about a website I maintain as well. An aircraft is either in service, stored, scrapped or Written Off (crashed due to an accident), so N917DN is cardcarrying stored in my point of view as it's none of the other options



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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6358 times:



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 7):
An aircraft is either in service, stored, scrapped or Written Off (crashed due to an accident), so N917DN is cardcarrying stored in my point of view as it's none of the other options

What about maintenance? And production?


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9556 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6322 times:



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 7):
We have discussions like this about a website I maintain as well. An aircraft is either in service, stored, scrapped or Written Off (crashed due to an accident), so N917DN is cardcarrying stored in my point of view as it's none of the other options

So if its getting a Check/HMV then it is stored? Or its still in the air?

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 8):
What about maintenance? And production?

Agreed



yep.
User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2574 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6271 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 9):
So if its getting a Check/HMV then it is stored? Or its still in the air?

For these lists it would still be in service.


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6131 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6):
Gee, that sounds like..... storage

Or prep for paint...which some very good folks do at VCV...


User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6102 times:



Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 11):
Or prep for paint...which some very good folks do at VCV...

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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6016 times:



Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 11):
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6):
Gee, that sounds like..... storage

Or prep for paint...which some very good folks do at VCV...

I would highly doubt that as it is parked on the ramp that "new" arrivals park on and the first couple of days it came in it was parked near the Victorville Aerospace and Pratt and Whitney hangars where it had it's engines removed. The paintshop (Leading Edge Aviation) is totally on the other side of the ramp. Not to say that it is NOT getting painted but considering I have seen it parked and taped up for over a month total I highly doubt that is what they are doing. I mean the NW aircraft come in get painted and depart in about a weeks time, what would be the point of "prepping" this one and then letting it sit on the Southern California Aviation Ramp and not the Leading Edge ramp??

FX1816


User currently offlinePhollingsworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 825 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5921 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Reply 13):
I would highly doubt that as it is parked on the ramp that "new" arrivals park on and the first couple of days it came in it was parked near the Victorville Aerospace and Pratt and Whitney hangars where it had it's engines removed. The paintshop (Leading Edge Aviation) is totally on the other side of the ramp. Not to say that it is NOT getting painted but considering I have seen it parked and taped up for over a month total I highly doubt that is what they are doing. I mean the NW aircraft come in get painted and depart in about a weeks time, what would be the point of "prepping" this one and then letting it sit on the Southern California Aviation Ramp and not the Leading Edge ramp??

Is this aircraft getting mods that are different from the other members of the DL MD90 fleet, e.g. new seats, overhead bin extensions. If so, it could be stored awaiting certification of the changes. I am not saying that it is, but I have seen these things take quite a while especially if there is a backup in engineering.


User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5856 times:



Quoting Phollingsworth (Reply 14):
Is this aircraft getting mods that are different from the other members of the DL MD90 fleet, e.g. new seats, overhead bin extensions.

Actually, in another thread, there is word that they are receiving 160 seats, with slimline Y. Perhaps they are waiting for their arrival.


User currently offlinePhollingsworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 825 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5838 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 15):
Actually, in another thread, there is word that they are receiving 160 seats, with slimline Y. Perhaps they are waiting for their arrival.

Could be, but often in these cases the components (since they are off the self) will arrive before certification. I have not real insight in this case, DL could be straight up storing the aircraft for now. Did DL purchase these aircraft or lease them? Depending on the cost of capital for this specific aircraft, compared to the aircraft it is replacing, it might make sense to store it in the desert for a period of time and fly the old aircraft. This would be the case if the MD90 was purchased with cash, and the MD88 or other aircraft it will replace is on a fairly expensive capital lease that will expire soon.


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