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JAL Retiring B 747 Classics This Month  
User currently offlineDustweek From Japan, joined Aug 1999, 77 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 months 22 hours ago) and read 5913 times:

Didn't see this mentioned in other threads, so starting my own.

JAL's Japanese website says they are retiring all their B747 Classics later this month.
Last B747-300 will be 30-July, from Honolulu to Narita, flight 73.

For 74,700 yen, you can have 4 days in Waikiki, and a hangar tour once you get back to Narita.

http://www.jal.co.jp/747_classic/

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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States, joined Mar 2007, 1186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 months 22 hours ago) and read 5867 times:

Noooooo!

Quoting Dustweek (Thread starter):

For 74,700 yen, you can have 4 days in Waikiki, and a hangar tour once you get back to Narita.

Sounds like a really great deal! I can't comprehend too much Japanese though.

Quoting Dustweek (Thread starter):
http://www.jal.co.jp/747_classic/

Really interesting website I wasn't aware of. I didn't know JL called the 747-200Bs "747LR".


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User currently onlinePlainplane From United States, joined Mar 2008, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 months 21 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

Any news on their fate? Will they be scrapped or preserved?

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States, joined Apr 2009, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 months 21 hours ago) and read 5782 times:

I'm glad to have seen a couple roaring away from HNL last month. Guess that was the last time. End of an era for JAL.

User currently offlineHa763 From United States, joined Jan 2003, 2798 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 months 20 hours ago) and read 5675 times:
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The HNL station has been planning for this special occasion. Each passenger on the flight will be getting something. There are also other things planned for the day, but it is not final.

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 1):
I didn't know JL called the 747-200Bs "747LR".

It was to differentiate between the domestic SR 747 classics. The LR applied to all the international 747 classics (-100, -200, and -300).

User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 5615 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 months 19 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

What will happen with the FEs ? Will they be trained to become pilots or will they be retired ?


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User currently offlineDustweek From Japan, joined Aug 1999, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 months 17 hours ago) and read 5487 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 5):



The HNL station has been planning for this special occasion. Each passenger on the flight will be getting something.

They should allow each passenger to take home their seat. At very least, you wouldn't feel guilty about stealing the safety card.

Calling a B747-300 a "classic" makes me feel old  Smile The extended upper deck still looks modern to my eyes.

User currently onlineSuperfly From United States, joined May 2000, 29937 posts, RR: 88
Reply 7, posted (5 months 17 hours ago) and read 5451 times:



Quoting Dustweek (Reply 6):
Calling a B747-300 a "classic" makes me feel old Smile The extended upper deck still looks modern to my eyes.

Same here.
I saw one of JAL's 747-300s in Bangkok last year.
My only 747-300 flight was on Thai Airways in 1st. Class two years ago.


Sad to see another carrier let go of their 747-300s.  Sad


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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 2757 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (5 months 16 hours ago) and read 5345 times:

Not really surprising, those were also getting old...

User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 6905 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (5 months 14 hours ago) and read 5137 times:



Quoting Plainplane (Reply 2):
Any news on their fate? Will they be scrapped or preserved?

This is a major step for the once largest 747 classic operator. But as of now JAL cant have more than a handful 743s left, I think its even less.
As for their future fate, JALs latest 743 frames were built in 1987/88, so they are heavily used 21, 22 year old aircraft. Transaero has just put another ex-JAL 743 into service. Most of JALs former 743s are in service with other operators, a few are stored. Some of the younger 743s most likely will have a chance for 3, 4 years more service, as Hadj-transports or with LCCs like Orient Thai. I doubt that a 26 year old frame like N812J will fly again.

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 3160 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (5 months 13 hours ago) and read 5087 times:



Quoting NA (Reply 9):
But as of now JAL cant have more than a handful 743s left, I think its even less.

According to ATDB only five frames are still active.


PH


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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 5615 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 months 13 hours ago) and read 5045 times:



Quoting NA (Reply 9):
As for their future fate, JALs latest 743 frames were built in 1987/88, so they are heavily used 21, 22 year old aircraft. Transaero has just put another ex-JAL 743 into service. Most of JALs former 743s are in service with other operators, a few are stored. Some of the younger 743s most likely will have a chance for 3, 4 years more service, as Hadj-transports or with LCCs like Orient Thai. I doubt that a 26 year old frame like N812J will fly again.

It is too bad that even Cargo airlines are dropping their 747 classics with 747-400 becoming more and more available.
Looks like in 5 years the 747 classics will be an extinct species.


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User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 4367 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 months 11 hours ago) and read 4914 times:

Sad to see them leave but it's about time they're replaced with newer planes.


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User currently onlineAtlanta From United States, joined Jun 2008, 471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 months 6 hours ago) and read 4625 times:
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Quoting Dustweek (Thread starter):
Last B747-300 will be 30-July, from Honolulu to Narita, flight 73.

Does anybody know how old this last bird is?

Quoting Dustweek (Thread starter):
http://www.jal.co.jp/747_classic/

Too bad the site is not in english.  Sad

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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 6905 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (5 months 6 hours ago) and read 4573 times:



Quoting Atlanta (Reply 13):
Does anybody know how old this last bird is?



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
According to ATDB only five frames are still active.

According airfleets only two 743s are left in JALs fleet, JA813J and JA8183. The first one is 26 years old, the other 22 years.

User currently offlineHa763 From United States, joined Jan 2003, 2798 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (5 months 4 hours ago) and read 3983 times:
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Quoting NA (Reply 14):
According airfleets only two 743s are left in JALs fleet, JA813J and JA8183. The first one is 26 years old, the other 22 years.

According to the JAL maintenance personnel here at HNL, it should be 812J and 8166. I know for certain that 812J is still flying since it was here in HNL just a couple days ago.

User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Oct 2002, 429 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (5 months 2 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

CX will retire it's last Classic in July as well around the same date.

The A/C is B-HVZ, HVX and HIH are currently parked in HK with their titles painted over, all of them should leave to either Kemble in the UK or Victorville in the US if Kemble doesn't work out.

July 20th is 30yrs of "Classics" in the CX fleet so they just make it!

This was made for B-HVY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bq1FFedCg


C152 G115 TB10 CAP10 Be76 C500 A330 A340 A346 B747-200F B747-400 -400F -400BCF -400ERF Next the 747-8F
User currently offlineAlexEU From East Timor, joined Oct 2007, 1601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

When did JAL retire 747SR?

Sad news that more 747-300 are vanishing! What other carriers use B743? Aerosul, Suriname Airlines, PIA and Saudi ?


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User currently onlineDocLightning From United States, joined Nov 2005, 7267 posts, RR: 48
Reply 18, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

I remember as a kid flying in the upper deck of a Swissair 743.  cloudnine 

I drew a picture of the plane (with brown cheatlines) for the F/A.

Wow, I'm getting old...


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User currently offlineDogBreath From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

Sad news.

Farewell old friend.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 10829 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1762 times:



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Quoting NA (Reply 9):
But as of now JAL cant have more than a handful 743s left, I think its even less.

According to ATDB only five frames are still active.

Airfleets.net only shows two JL743s active, one standard 743 and one 743SR.

User currently offline28L28L From Ireland, joined Nov 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
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The one I always see at HNL in recent days, including Monday, is JA812J

User currently offlineCessna172RG From United States, joined Aug 2000, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

Now these are actual 743's and not those 747-200s that got converted with the larger upper deck, right?


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 6905 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1476 times:



Quoting Cessna172RG (Reply 22):
Now these are actual 743's and not those 747-200s that got converted with the larger upper deck, right?

JAL had no such conversion, only KLM and UTA did it.

User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States, joined May 1999, 2465 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1457 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 17):
What other carriers use B743? Aerosul, Suriname Airlines, PIA and Saudi ?

Transaero also still flies the B743. In fact Transaero is the only Russian airline flying the Boeing 747, Aeroflot never had 747's.

Ben Soriano


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User currently offline28L28L From Ireland, joined Nov 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1264 times:
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JA8166 operated HNL-NGO as JO83 on Wednesday 8 July

26 Je89_w: It looks like JA812J, JA813J, JA8166, and JA8183 are still active. JA8166 and JA812J seem like they are doing the Hawaii runs and JA8183 and JA813J lo
27 Ktachiya: JA8183 operated HNL-NGO on the 9th of July. But honestly with so much overcapacity at the moment, it seems that JL could retire a heap of B744 and sti
28 FX1816: I don't believe that is true. I'm pretty sure that JAL had some of the 100's, not sure about 200's, converted to the larger upper deck. FX1816
29 NA: Or sell some 773s to make some money.
30 Lowrider: Don't bet on it, there are still large parts of the world where a 747 classic will serve just fine for freight. The airframes are cheap and most part
31 Post contains images FX1816: Here is JA8176 a 747-146SR with an extended upper deck.... FX1816
32 NA: Not a conversion, it was built that way. Sold 2006.
33 FX1816: My fault, sorry about that I was under the idea that they were just asking if JAL had any 100 or 200 series with the SUD. FX1816
34 PlaneHunter: Four still in service now according to ATDB. I wouldn't trust airfleets.net as much as ATDB. And all 743s have been used on international services in
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