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SAS Aircraft - Why 3 Different Registrations?  
User currently offlineFlyingfox27 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5877 times:

When i was at LHR the other day, i noticed various aircraft of SAS, MD80, 737 and a CRJ which have 3 different kinds of registreations, for example.

LN-XXX
SE-XXX
OY-XXX

Just wondering why they have 3 different registration types (sorry i dont know how to put it) Any ideas folks?

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8997 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5883 times:
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3 different countries put together for one airline: Norway, Denmark, Sweden.

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User currently offlineFlyingfox27 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5822 times:

Oh so thats why, thanks for the quick reply WILCO. Iam off to LHR tomorrow too! I probably should start uploading one day to here hehe.

User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3059 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5731 times:

Ln - Norway
se - Sweden
oy - Denmark

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineCPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5216 times:

It is all little odd....

F.ex the MD-80's are all based in CPH, but they are not all registered OY.

The same goes for the 737's, that are based in Sweden and Oslo. Some of them are registered OY.

SAS does have some kind of "key" they use when they make new registrations. So there is a specific number of aircrafts registered in each country, but it has nothing to do with where they are based.

A little strange I know, but thats the way it is.


User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2260 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4998 times:



Quoting CPHGuard (Reply 4):
SAS does have some kind of "key" they use when they make new registrations. So there is a specific number of aircrafts registered in each country, but it has nothing to do with where they are based.

All the SAS Norway aircraft are registered in Norway, but the SAS Sweden, SAS Denmark and SAS International aircraft are registered in all three countries.



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User currently offlineOtnySASLHR From Spain, joined May 2007, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

The ownership split used to be Sweden 3/7 Denmark 2/7 and Norway 2/7
rgds
Tony



oTny
User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4587 times:
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SAS AB the holding company in which the Governments of Sweden, Denmark and Norway retain a 50% stockholding -This is split with Sweden having 21.4% and Denmark and Norway having 14.3% each. A further 18.4% is owned by various banks pension funds etc.
There is also a sizable Danish fund holding on top of this however due to Danish regulations only holding in excess of 5% can be identified.
The remaining shares floated and traded in the Stock exchanges.


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1688 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

I've even spotted a MD87 with SPANISH registration and full SAS colours recently; guess it's leased from Spanair...


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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3811 times:
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MH017

Spanair are a SAS subsidiary company (However they want to get rid of it)

Over recent years a number of MD87 aircraft have been transferred under lease terms to Spanair replaced by B737NG models.
Most of these have acquired the *A livery and Spanair stickers, however two actually retain SAS livery and titles.
They are EC-JRR (was LN-RMH)
EC-JSU (was LN-RMK)

Interestingly when SAS grounded the Dash8-400Q aircraft several of the Spanair MD87s temporarily returned to fill the void, these included *A coloured examples and at least one of the above.


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3887 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3706 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 9):
MH017

Spanair are a SAS subsidiary company (However they want to get rid of it)

Over recent years a number of MD87 aircraft have been transferred under lease terms to Spanair replaced by B737NG models.
Most of these have acquired the *A livery and Spanair stickers, however two actually retain SAS livery and titles.
They are EC-JRR (was LN-RMH)
EC-JSU (was LN-RMK)

Interestingly when SAS grounded the Dash8-400Q aircraft several of the Spanair MD87s temporarily returned to fill the void, these included *A coloured examples and at least one of the above.

I thought they sold Spaniar last year


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3887 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

I also think SAS Norway is the part of SAS that is the biggest. By that I mean in number of aircraft.

User currently offlineCO38 From Norway, joined May 2009, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

I read in a Norwegian news paper a few years back that the reason why SAS has so many aircraft LN- registered in its fleet has to do with the fact that Norway has less strict regulations when it comes to sell-and-lease-back aircraft compared to Sweden and Denmark. (They sold alot of their aircrafts to corporations in the carribean, and leased them back again to free up cash)

So if I remember the article right, the LN- registered airplanes in SAS are either owned by SAS or been sold and leased back, while all the SE- and OY- registered aircrafts are owned.

I believe that in Denmark, sell and lease back is not allowed. And in Sweden its allowed, but with alot of restricions. (It could be the other way around... Smile)


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