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User currently offlineMattcawby From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 208 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 34047 times:

N787BA is on the runway at Paine Field doing taxi tests beginning at 10:30 am.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31096 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 34087 times:
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Awesome. I was hoping they'd do them after completing Final Gauntlet last week.  thumbsup 

User currently offlineTrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 34086 times:

WOOOOT! Another step forward! How long will the taxi tests last?

User currently offlineMattcawby From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 208 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 33974 times:

They have taxied down 16R twice now, looks like they are getting ready to do a high speed. I alerted the local news so there should be a lot of pictures very soon


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User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 34081 times:

First Pictures!! They aren't amazing, but it's the real deal. She rolls!

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...irst-pictures-787-low-speed-t.html

IAD787



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9076 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 33874 times:
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That is good news  thumbsup 

I am looking forward to more progress soon.

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User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 858 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 33571 times:

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/50145437.html

More pictures



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8320 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 33443 times:

Nice news to go along with the announcement of the Vought SC facility:

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...ntent/jul2009/db2009077_590474.htm

The grounds will be interesting to watch - especially if there is continual increase in speed. As I recall, the 777 lifted off a bit during testing on the day before FF. I'd bet my left one that some test pilot will be tempted . . .


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27100 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 33363 times:

Is there not any ( video ) media covering it??

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19922 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 33229 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
Is there not any ( video ) media covering it??

LY4XELD's link has a video.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5622 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 33098 times:

As underwhelmed as I've been in the overall appearance of the 787 (I like it, but haven't really been overly inspired), and as disgusted as I am with the debacle of a program it has turned out to be, I must say that I found the overhead video absolutely stunning! What a great looking aircraft when it is actually in motion.

-Dave



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31096 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 33097 times:
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I think the 787-9 will be better-proportioned. She looks a little stubby forward of the wing.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32972 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
I think the 787-9 will be better-proportioned. She looks a little stubby forward of the wing.

I also think the paint scheme helps make it look short. the plane looks a little better in the NH livery.



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User currently offlineDeltaHolland From Netherlands, joined Dec 2008, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32835 times:

Wow that looks awesome! Can't wait till she's ready to fly!

User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2728 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32736 times:

After reading all about the deperessing potential 18 month delays and major re-design yesterday, this is a nice pick me up...until Boeing tells us otherwise, I believe the fix will be a relative simple one that will have this bird flying before we know it!

User currently offlineMcr From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32694 times:
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Shame about the lack of sound on the video. Or is she really that quiet?  Smile

What's up with the rudder? Looks to me like it's moving a lot in the video (and not in a very controlled-looking way).

Great to see the 787 moving under it's own power. Hope there's better news coverage for first flight!


User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32631 times:

Love the dual flashing lights on the tail cone! Brilliant.

Though personally not as smashing looking as i imagined!

Good going.

Nitin



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5622 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32573 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
I think the 787-9 will be better-proportioned. She looks a little stubby forward of the wing.

I agree. In Auburn at the Supermall cinemas there is an airplane/airport theme. On the wall is a likeness of a 777, but it always looked a little off. Oddly enough, I think it is proportioned almost identically to the 787.  Smile

Quoting Mcr (Reply 16):
Great to see the 787 moving under it's own power. Hope there's better news coverage for first flight!

Not only is it guaranteed to be better covered, but with all the issues to date, I can't help but think there will be an extra emphasis "just in case it comes apart". And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

-Dave



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User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32343 times:

Great site to see, I noticed during the video the flaps were set, is this in case they do have to lift off for some reason during a high speed taxi?

Surely with no intention of flying they wouldnt need to set them!?

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User currently offlineFlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32278 times:



Quoting IAD787 (Reply 4):
She rolls!

Let's hope that's not all she does! It's progress.



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User currently offline757GB From Uruguay, joined Feb 2009, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32144 times:

Seeing it move on its own power brought it home for me. If for a moment one forgets about the current problems, she sure looks ready and eager to fly!


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User currently offlinePetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 31975 times:
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From what I've read there will not be any high speed taxi tests until the fuselage fixes are in.

Anyway, nice to it moving under it's own power finally.

Peter


User currently offlineStratofortress From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 31977 times:

That's pretty. The nose and windows look much better than I expected. (although not as good as the conceptual drawing)

What's the plane on the taxiway at the very end of the video?



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 31920 times:



Quoting Mattcawby (Thread starter):
N787BA is on the runway at Paine Field doing taxi tests beginning at 10:30 am.

CRAP!!!!!! Soooooooooooooo close!!!!! I predicted that today would be the 787's first flight. So, so, so close!!! Dammit! I hope the taxi tests went well othewise!

Quoting IAD787 (Reply 4):
First Pictures!! They aren't amazing, but it's the real deal. She rolls!

Great pics!!! She looks real, real HOT ROD!!!!!!! Oh, love the anti-collisions!!!  drool  Makes it look Star Trekky!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
Is there not any ( video ) media covering it??

See reply 4.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 18):
I agree. In Auburn at the Supermall cinemas there is an airplane/airport theme. On the wall is a likeness of a 777, but it always looked a little off. Oddly enough, I think it is proportioned almost identically to the 787.  Smile

On the A concourse in SEA near gate A5 at the exit out of the sterile area, they had the 787 and 747-8 pics up on a wall, now they are gone. Sad The pic of the engines were so cool though.

Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 20):
Let's hope that's not all she does!

Same here.... Seeing it move on its own power, given the negative news lately, gives me more confidence that this chick will fly!!!!!  bigthumbsup 

Keep up the good work, Boeing!!!



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User currently offlineAirliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 31845 times:

One more step towards test flight! GREAT!  bigthumbsup 

25 Post contains images Keesje : Ah, we deserved this..    [Edited 2009-07-07 13:30:24]
26 Post contains links 757GB : NYC777 reports that there was apparently an RTO test. http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2009/07/7...inally-moves-on-its-own-power.html Does the test on the v
27 Michlis : Still a very sweet looking airliner.
28 Ncfc99 : Was anyone else just dying for it to rotate on that high speed run...........or was that just me? It looks like it wants to fly, where it belongs.
29 AirframeAS : I think it actually did.... It looks like it did, however...
30 ArabAirX : Excellent shots!
31 Thorben : Tomorrow it will be two years after the roll-out, btw.
32 Ikramerica : Well, RTO tests have to be set up so the plane can fly if necessary. Was there a fight plan filed?
33 ER757 : I was wondering the same thing. Sure was a lot of smoke coming off the tires when she braked I must say, it's a beautiful looking aircraft, but it be
34 ERAUgrad02 : I noticed that the switched from strobes to more energy efficient LED's for the anti-collision lights. I'm sure the landing lights are HID's like on
35 Osteogenesis : Great news!! Wish you all the best and hope the troubles are overcome very soon.
36 SASDC8 : Nice and about time Great day for Boeing and the 787 program Cheers Stein
37 BatBowlField : Hard to tell. Looks borderline. But a super-looking airplane nonetheless. Especially so from those overhead shots. Lets hope she flies real soon.
38 Brilondon : The 787 looks really great under it own power.
39 AirframeAS : I believe the CRJ's have them too. They look a lot like BMW headlights!
40 Rbgso : Agreed. That is one sexy looking aircraft. Now if they could just get the thing airborn......
41 Conti764 : Right now, it does everything my car does Now get it up in the air Boeing, 'cause it ain't a plane untill it flies!
42 EPA001 : Yes we did with all the waiting we have done. Now get her airborne, but when?
43 Post contains links Ken777 : From KOMO, the TV station providing the video above: "Test pilots were taking the 787 for a low-speed taxi test around Paine Field's runway and taxi l
44 Model299 : Glad to see her move under her own power. It's just a matter of time now.
45 Nomadd22 : Wouldn't they be expected to lock the brakes a few times before a real RTO?
46 Stitch : I tend to think it wasn't a full RTO, but more of a braking test. When I used to work around PAE, I'd occasionally see a 777 really rev up the engines
47 Glideslope : Actually, although it may be related to the spoilers deploying. There does seem to be a quick pitch up a split second prior to full braking.
48 NCB : Indeed and RTO test is usually done with fire crews standing by on taxiways. Also no way that it could achieve V1 seconds at less than 10 seconds fro
49 DocLightning : The wings did start to migrate upwards on that roll, however. They generated lift. She didn't fly, but those wings bit some air!
50 Jbernie : Given that the Wright brothers first flight was probably not even one 787 long, if it takes off at a few feet altitude for maybe 3 seconds and then t
51 WingedMigrator : Beautiful video Did they smoke the tires? The puffs of smoke looked a bit unusual to me. A maximum energy RTO, yes. A garden-variety RTO at far less w
52 2707200X : Wow, great taxi I don't think the wheels where intended to partially lock up but it is exiting to see the first taxi of the long awaited 787.
53 Jbernie : My first thought was more they puffed smoke as it was the first time they were really being used, maybe it sitting idle for some time let to some dus
54 PM : Couldn't agree more.
55 KELPkid : I gotta admit, if I was the guy in the left seat, I would have been tempted to pull a Howard Hughes, pull back on the yoke, and take her around the p
56 Vega9000 : That is one BEAUTIFUL looking airplane. Much, much better than I thought up until now just from pictures. It's amazing how it's transformed just by th
57 Vega9000 : By the way, what's that black thing hanging from the tail?
58 Tdscanuck : KPAE fire crew was out on the field all day. Trailing cone. It provides an independent static air pressure source. Tom.
59 DAL1044 : I can't wait until the first flight. Regardless of who builds it I still love any new aircrafts first flight. Always inspiring !
60 Post contains links WCS : Hi all, I was there this morning. And I do consider myself lucky. Why? Well, yesterday we had as many as 2 Dreamlifter in front of the Paint Shop at P
61 Ikramerica : Ah, makes sense. So just requires clearance then, I guess. How could you tell? 90knots and 60knots don't look that different from a distance, unless
62 Wingman : Well at least the 787 lives up to its advertising claims. In this week's Economist Boeing has a full 2 page spread showing the 787 with the tagline "A
63 Ikramerica : Well, there is no chance of that. These engines just won't make a howling noise. All the ear piercing fun has been desiged right out them!
64 WCS : Definitively impossible for me just by the sight. But as I said ... I also had a very interesting discussion with guys involved on the project Now I
65 7gm7 : Looks great! Nice to see progress among the troubles of late. Can't wait for flight, thanks for posting.
66 Post contains links WCS : Hey guys, Some pictures there: Seconds before the test: http://www.usa-pictures.com/photos-of-Washington-Everett---4016.photos Brakes hitted: http://w
67 F9Animal : Congrats to the 787 team! The pictures I have seen look great, and the aircraft looks stunning! Even more stunning with the brake smoke and the speed
68 Glbltrvlr : Just to be pedantic , as our fearless leader is touring around Moscow right now, it was actually Special Air Mission (SAM) "29000" – with Air Force
69 Fxramper : Damn that plane is sexy. Can't wait to see it in AA livery.
70 Spr773 : Those wings look cool....Congrats to Boeing.... (its too early to pop this but a good time to buy so that it will have to be popped eventually ) At le
71 AV8AJET : I noticed a DL 757 with this also (no reg sorry) must be a new retrofit. Looked weird had the LED beacon on the bottom and regular beacon on the top.
72 WCS : Nice clarification, appreciate it. Could you confirm that SAM 29000 is configured just like AFO? I ask that because I noticed some missing components
73 Tdscanuck : It is Air Force One when the President is on board. "Air Force One" is a callsign, not an aircraft. The 747's that are commonly called Air Force One
74 BrouAviation : How a gorgeous looking aircraft! She really comes alive now. How tempting must it be for those testpilots just to throw the throttles fully forward, a
75 WingedMigrator : Something still puzzles me, why was there tire smoke?
76 Burkhard : Congrats to Boeing! All the best wishes to her.
77 BMI727 : Could have been brake dust perhaps?
78 Slz396 : With credible reports emerging that there could be another massive delay looming for the 787 (up to 18 months) and with a significant structural redes
79 Post contains links Keesje : What everybody wants to know but doesn't ask to not spoil the party I guess. There were some issues with the braking system. Software last yr, furthe
80 Burkhard : @Slz396 Even if the problems are as big as reports indicate some experts to fear, there is no reason not to test all those components that can be test
81 Keesje : IMO Boeing needs to test, analyse, verify and re test as much as possible as soon as possible. Regardsless of the wing issue. You can''t find a snag
82 PlanesNTrains : Somewhat disappointing that you couldn't resist raining on the parade, but I guess it's to be expected. In my opinion, if you can do the tests, you d
83 Slz396 : Excuse me for pointing out the coincidence of this first taxy trial happening on the evening of the second "Potemkin roll-out" aniversary... It's not
84 Racko : Well, if they can do the tests, why not do them? No point in having the 787 just sitting around.
85 RedChili : Wow, seeing that bird running down the runway, I had a feeling that she wanted to jump up and surprise everybody with an unscheduled first flight. It
86 JetMech : Not too sure about "locking" the brakes. I dare say the 787 is fitted with an ABS system like most contemporary types. IIRC, when they do the formal
87 Nomadd22 : The ABS systems don't completely eliminate fraction of a second lockups. You still get some smoke at 100% braking. They might be running them to the
88 757GB : After reading threads here for years, I can't say that I am surprised... I agree... it just wouldn't make sense to do it at this time for publicity p
89 Manfredj : I dunno, common sense would suggest that if they are going ahead with taxi testing, first flight could be closer than we think. Why continue testing
90 Stitch : I don't see why Boeing should just close-up shop and send everyone home until ZA001 is ready to fly. They can learn things by continuing with tests an
91 Joperrin89 : Sorry if some one already poasted this question, didnt have time to read the whole thread, but dose anyone know when the 787's first flight is schedul
92 Starrion : No. And apparently neither does Boeing. They should be announcing when they think they may reschedule first flight in a couple weeks.* *First flight
93 Airbazar : Am I the only one who can't see the video? I get a ERROR: The file could not be found on the server.
94 AirbusA370 : OK, Boeing can build nice looking trucks Now please get it in the air to show us that it's looks nice in "airplane-mode", too...
95 Post contains links 757GB : I haven't seen this link posted. It doesn't show the whole test but it does have sound. Sweeeeet sound! http://kpae.blogspot.com/2009/07/n787ba_07.htm
96 Ken777 : I assume that both A&B wear the brake units down in testing before the max RTO test. That would seem logical, making the first trip to the runway a b
97 PlanesNTrains : Sorry, Slz, but we're past the "I'm just an innocent a.net member" period. Frankly, your entire post had nothing to do with a taxi test and everythin
98 Pnwtraveler : I agree with you Stitch. I think the same thing with the 767-200 versus the 767-300 versions. I think as well the size of the cockpit windows, the la
99 Ikramerica : But you want to try to connect the two, without knowing ANY information on the nature of the test, including whether it was something like an "ABS Fa
100 Dragon6172 : Any possibility they would disable the anti-skid/ABS for initial taxi testing to make sure the crew had full use of the brakes?
101 Nomadd22 : One big difference is that Boeing didn't destroy the test frame in discovering the problem, so they can do a real world test to verify the fix. Airbu
102 Glareskin : Definitely! Saw the scale model last week in the ANA lounge at Narita. A real beauty. I felt a bit sorry for NH though. Suffering the delays as the l
103 EPA001 : " target=_blank>http://kpae.blogspot.com/2009/07/n78....html Very, very nice. Thanks for posting this link of the beautiful B787 in taxiing action. Y
104 Astuteman : Wasn't that Ken777's point, in support of yours? Airbus failed a complete wing (destroy a test frame is a bit OTT IMO), but still didn't need to re-d
105 Rheinbote : Scott Hamilton quoted Carson saying that only 40 aircraft would be affected by the temp fix, which would then mean that the average production rate o
106 EA772LR : Excellent pics. Thanks! Gosh I agree... I agree. His post was done in poor taste IMHO. OTOH, very exciting to actually see and hear this thing in mot
107 Post contains links 757GB : Sorry EPA001, no can do yet, but here is a link to an article Jon just posted, with another nice video http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...more-on
108 EPA001 : I will not hold it against you that you can't do this (yet). Thanks for the other link. Much appreciated.
109 Post contains links Glbltrvlr : And it apparently was an RTO test, so smoke would definitely be expected. http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...9/07/more-on-787-taxi-testing.html
110 JetMech : Fair enough. I thought you meant sustained lock. Sure, and you can smell hot brakes from a distance as well. I think it is a regulatory requirement,
111 757GB : I have no idea if they would do it for the 787, but I do remember seeing a video of tests of the 747 in which they disabled the anti-skid in one of t
112 Ikramerica : True, but Boeing is having to rebuild that section, while Airbus did not. Airbus, IIRC, was simply able to model the difference, and then fit the fix
113 Nomadd22 : I'm not that familiar with the first wingbox mod. Is there a chance that reinforcement could be the cause of the stresses not being distributed the wa
114 Ikramerica : According to flightblogger, the taxi tests ran up to 100knots, and included manual braking which seemed to be both with and without ABS, so that would
115 JBirdAV8r : Sleaze396, Please spare us the melodrama. That's not even close to accurate, and you know it.
116 Tdscanuck : It is. But the ABS isn't active 100% of the time on most types. That's a cert requirement...max energy braking test must be done with the worst-case
117 Ikramerica : Actually, they would have to in order to then retrofit the fix to the other planes that are already built. And that is the plan, from what has been d
118 WCS : At which point a breaks test is considered a RTO, I don't know. The plane was maybe in the fist third of the runway. One thing probable, engine were
119 Ikramerica : When the brakes are set to RTO mode, it would seem. A look at flightblogger has some information on this topic.
120 Post contains links WestWing : For what it is worth, the latest Boeing blog entry says an RTO test was performed. Question for anyone that was actually present there during this tes
121 Tdscanuck : They may, but they don't have to. Most aircraft structural repairs are certified by analysis, not test. Tom.
122 WCS : Obviously hard to compare with. My only referrers for the day were VC25A and Dreamlifter; I would say yes, which is fortunate as the 77W have far mor
123 Ikramerica : I am not speaking from a place of confidence on this topic, someone else may have a better understanding, but if the brakes have 7 settings, and one
124 Tdscanuck : RTO, as a brake setting, is specifically related to autobraking. It's the logic that kicks in when certain criteria (speed, throttle position, etc.)
125 Ikramerica : Thanks for that. So basically, you can just define your test as an RTO and then it's an RTO?
126 Dynamicsguy : Really? I have seen nothing to say that they were repairing the wing box back to original spec (and I have read the entire 3-part discussion on the i
127 Ikramerica : The are rebonding the parts that came apart. So maybe it's not "original spec" but they are repairing it to an "as new" condition.
128 Post contains links 757GB : Guy Norris is back. Article on the EICAS tests. Interesting reading. I wasn't aware of the new concepts being implemented regarding EICAS functionalit
129 Tdscanuck : Sort of. You couldn't call, say, an air conditioning test an RTO and have that mean anything. But RTO just means rejected takeoff...if you put yourse
130 Ikramerica : Obviously, you haven't seen my air conditioner.
131 Racko : "‘dark’ or ‘quiet’ flightdeck concept" Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this concept already in place in the A320 and the MD-11?
132 DocLightning : And THAT'S what she's gonna sound like, huh? AWESOME! I can't wait to see her fly. *insert snide comment about B's timeliness here*
133 Tdscanuck : As one whose air conditioner recently bit the dust, I'd be happy with one that blows, let alone RTO's! It's been in place since, at least, the 737, a
134 Glbltrvlr : The concept of not lighting panel indicator lights unless there's a problem has been around for a long time, but this goes beyond that. Now they are
135 Post contains links Bschusterman : Does anyone know if any 787's have been ordered for private or jet charter usage? Thank you, Ben Schusterman Vice President - Operations ElJet Aviatio
136 Post contains links Tdscanuck : Yes, 8. http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...ageid=m25062&RequestTimeout=100000 Look under "Business Jet / VIP Customer(s)" Tom.
137 Stitch : There have been a number of 787VIP orders, though a few of them have been canceled now that the bankers who bought them have lost all their money in
138 Racko : Still don't really get what's new about that. Where were the Trim positions shown before? Did a 744 display them at all anywhere except on the analog
139 Iwok : Thanks for the update. What I don't understand is why bother with all this now, since the bird won't be up in the air for another 6-months. Is there
140 Dynamicsguy : Well, we still don't know a new timeline for the first flight. There was supposed to be an update in "a few weeks" a few weeks ago. It could be signi
141 Bkircher : Well no matter what one can say, this is a huge step towards the first flight. My goodness does this bird look sexy moving. WOW ANyways does anyone kn
142 WCS : Well, if you like mine, I could forward the full res (2/3Mb per frame) ones. Raphaël
143 Post contains links Tdscanuck : What's new is that they're actually removing the indication when it's not needed. On, for example, a 744 the analog trim gauge is always there. That
144 Bkircher : Ya thatd be great. Ya Ive registered there, but am waiting approval. Thanks tho.
145 Astuteman : Early retirement of related risks would appear to be the key driver... Rgds
146 Revelation : And so people on a.net can't keep saying that the brakes don't work!
147 Moriarty : Great news. And I must say, it's one beautiful aircraft!
148 ERAUgrad02 : Those HID (High Itensity Discharge) lights are on G.A planes like SR-22 but the red flashing anti-collision lights are now LED technology vs. Strobes
149 Ikramerica : That's the best reason, though despite the tests up to 100 knots and video evidence of the brakes working, people STILL said the brakes didn't work!
150 Astuteman : Still, that's nothing new on here, is it? Rgds
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