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Spirit Sets Start Date For FLL-AXM  
User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2561 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

The "ultra low cost airline" Spirit, will start to service Armenia, Colombia on 13th November.
Armenia is a small city at the heart of Colombia's beautiful coffee region and will be Spirit's 4th destination in the country. It already has daily services to Bogota and Medellin, and Cartagena 4 times a week.

Service to Armenia will start on a twice weekly frequency, on Tuedays and Fridays with the following schedule:

FLL 1030 - AXM 1410
AXM 1455 - FLL 1845

[Edited 2009-07-08 13:04:22]

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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17516 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3261 times:

Why AXM as opposed to, say, CLO or BAQ?


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User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2561 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
Why AXM as opposed to, say, CLO or BAQ?

AXM is "open skies". So is BAQ, but Spirit currently poaches passengers from BAQ through its CTG service. They even have an agreement with a bus operator for transfers, which take about 2 hours.

Access to CLO is restricted, and there are no available frequencies at the moment. Until the bilateral is revised, only slight possibility is that DL totally gives up its frequencies for JFK-BOG that thay seem to be struggling with.

In the mean time, CLO-FLL might be a good route for Aires, that is set to launch services from Colombia to FLL (and later JFK) from points in Colombia.

Spirit may also start San Andres Island at some point. That is also an open skies destination, and they would get some subsidy from the colombian government.

[Edited 2009-07-08 13:31:00]

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32809 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

There should also be an announcement soon about twice weekly service to Chiclayo, Peru.


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User currently offlineA300aa From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2992 times:



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 2):
Access to CLO is restricted, and there are no available frequencies at the moment. Until the bilateral is revised, only slight possibility is that DL totally gives up its frequencies for JFK-BOG that thay seem to be struggling

DL will stop its JFK-BOG on Sept.

Its not on the res system anymore.


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2939 times:



Quoting A300aa (Reply 4):
DL will stop its JFK-BOG on Sept.

Its not on the res system anymore.

That doesn't mean they will give up the frequencies, it's a seasonal reduction.

Good news but this move is probably the riskiest NK has made in regard to their Latin America operation. I mean, AXM, though in the coffe axis and a big destination for colombian tourist, is far away from the two big cities in the region, Manizales and Pereira (by far I mean 3 hours form PEI and 4 from MZL by car), so I don't know if they will poach a lot of passengers from those destinations. I have to see how this goes.



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User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2561 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2716 times:



Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
is far away from the two big cities in the region, Manizales and Pereira (by far I mean 3 hours form PEI and 4 from MZL by car),

I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that Pereira is quite close to Armenia. Maybe 1 hour drive or so. A further hour and a half to Manizalez.
I should think that NK will do well out of serving AXM, and can see them increasing frequencies to 3 weekly frequencies sooner rather than later.


User currently offlineDLDTW1962 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

And what aircraft are they going to find to service this destination?

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32809 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2656 times:



Quoting DLDTW1962 (Reply 7):
And what aircraft are they going to find to service this destination?

What are you talking about? They have plenty of A319s.



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User currently offlineDLDTW1962 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

I stand corrected. I thought they had max out all of their aircraft. Did they get more A319's delivered to them?

Chuck


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32809 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2621 times:



Quoting DLDTW1962 (Reply 9):

I stand corrected. I thought they had max out all of their aircraft. Did they get more A319's delivered to them?

I'm not sure about delivery schedules. They are cutting capacity 10% at the end of the year, but by reducing utilization, not parking planes. A320s start coming soonish, I think late 2010.



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User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2573 times:



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 6):
I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that Pereira is quite close to Armenia. Maybe 1 hour drive or so. A further hour and a half to Manizalez.

I don't think so, it took me 3.30 hours from Manizales to Armenia going really fast on the highway.



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineFlyboynk From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Armenia will start out twice weekly as stated then proceed to daily service with possible multiple daily flights eventually (2x 3x). Due to the close enough nature to Cali (yes a few hours but) and the whole "eje Cafetero" "coffee axis" you are lloking at an important business region in Colombia, not to mention a few million pax within a few hours driving distance.

NK also will be starting (soon to be announced) San Andres as part of the agreement to start Armenia with service From FLL and from Colombia (BOG, MDE, or AXM still unknown) since the agreement between Colombia and Spirit involved making Armenia openskies, upgrading facilities and flying to San Andres.

The Int'l terminal and runway upgrades have been finished, just waiting on TSA to sign off on the last minute details... (close to 10 million spent on this up to now). Cali is now begging Spirit to fly to CLO but because of the money spent in Armenia and also due to restricted slots to/from CLO it may happen down the road.

Route will start with A319 service then upgrade to A320 service, as more than like MDE and BOG by beginning of 2010. NK has (4) A320's coming by the beginning of 2010 if not sooner. Codeshare with Easyfly will allow pax to connect to many other destinations in Colombia when announced...

As for the 7 A319s NK got rid of last year those where the highest lease payment aircraft. Ofcourse that was in fear of the $150-$200 barrel of crude prices everyone was expecting. Now ofcourse the aircraft are needed but NK is not looking to overspend either (aircraft are available but not at the right prices)



Flyboynk
User currently offlineClo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2438 times:



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 2):
In the mean time, CLO-FLL might be a good route for Aires, that is set to launch services from Colombia to FLL (and later JFK) from points in Colombia.

Aires just announced it will start flying BAQ-FLL in November 2009. I hope at some point CLO gets the low-cost service to South Florida either from Aires or from NK, because clearly the market is there.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32809 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2391 times:



Quoting Flyboynk (Reply 12):
with possible multiple daily flights eventually (2x 3x).

Yeah, um, that's not going happen.



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