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What Cities Will See A 748i?  
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19734 posts, RR: 59
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10568 times:

So with LH being the steadfast sole customer for this model, what cities do you think will see them?

I bet SFO and LAX will each get at least one daily frequency. Where else?

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10521 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I bet SFO and LAX will each get at least one daily frequency. Where else?

Johannesburg? IAD? ORD? EWR? IAH?



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User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10521 times:

I heard LH was going to send a 748I to DEN. There was a thread about this awhile ago.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10490 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I bet SFO and LAX will each get at least one daily frequency. Where else?

I would imagine they would get A380s. Maybe IAD as well.



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10468 times:

BOM has seen steady 744's over the years.....could be a prime candidate....

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10459 times:

Well, we'll see the freighter versions in Luxembourg for sure and probably at most of Cargolux's bigger stations. Atlas is getting them too, so we can count on them being at ANC and wherever else they care to send them. Actually when all is said and done, your best shot at seeing a 747-8 will probably be at ANC.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10434 times:

And yet, he asked specifically about the 748i and LH.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19734 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10412 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):

I would imagine they would get A380s. Maybe IAD as well.

Currently it's a 343 and a 744 to SFO. I bet a 332-3 and a 748i would fill that spot very nicely.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7541 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10375 times:

Back in the late 1960s or early 1970s it was said that if you spent a whole day at LHR you could clock a very large proportion (forget the figure- it could have been 75%) of the world's fleet of 747s. But so far it is looking as if you will be very unlikely to see a single 748i even if you spent a month of Sundays there.

User currently offlineDanimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10362 times:

I'm pretty sure BOG will see some 747-8F because of the high cargo volume from the flowers business .

User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3958 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10339 times:

If LH keeps IAH a 747 destination, then I would say that we have a good shot of seeing it. BTW, any ideas as to when it might start service and who is the launch customer?

Thomas



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User currently offlineODwyerPW From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 861 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10252 times:

Everett Washington will see one. That's for sure.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10220 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
So with LH being the steadfast sole customer for this model, what cities do you think will see them?

I bet SFO and LAX will each get at least one daily frequency. Where else?

Probably most cities that now see LH 744s.


User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10175 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
Currently it's a 343 and a 744 to SFO

LH 458 is a 346 and LH 454 is a 744



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7584 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10131 times:

It has been said that LH will fly the A380 to MEX. Maybe it would be wise to use the A380 during the busy summer season and the 748i during the IATA winter. What do you guys think about this possibility?


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19734 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10100 times:



Quoting Legacyins (Reply 14):

LH 458 is a 346 and LH 454 is a 744

Thanks.

So I don't know how many are on each one, but I doubt an A388 can replace both a 744 and 346. So it's going to need two frequencies daily. I doubt an A388 is going to fly a scheduled route to SFO any time soon. But they need to replace their 744 on the route. A 346 is too small. A 388 is too big. A 747 is the best replacement for a 747. And I think LH knows that.


User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9998 times:



Quoting ODwyerPW (Reply 12):
Everett Washington will see one. That's for sure.

And of course Frankfurt, Germany. Big grin
And Munich, maybe.  Smile


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9974 times:

Did LH ever fly the 747 into PHL? I think I asked it before, but will they ever have one at PHL in the future, or do US' 767s and A330s as well as the LH A330 (or A340) pretty much have PHL well covered?


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User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1279 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9962 times:

Im going to go waaaay out on a limb and suggest:

FRA
MUC


User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9478 times:

I have also herd that DEN will see the 748i.


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User currently offlineStburke From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9467 times:



Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 2):
I heard LH was going to send a 748I to DEN. There was a thread about this awhile ago.

LH To DIA: Two Years To Get 748i-Ready (by DIA Feb 6 2008 in Civil Aviation)

I'm not sure what needs to be done to accommodate it at DEN. But they don't seem to be in a rush to get it done. I also have a hard time believing this after MUC was dropped and an A346 and not a 744 has been on the FRA route since.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9240 times:



Quoting Stburke (Reply 22):
'm not sure what needs to be done to accommodate it at DEN.

Repaint the taxilines and airline box for the gate, and institute a procedure for gate use to the right when the 748 is parked there.

Painting takes a day, but instituting new procedures? Well, it is the government we are talking about...



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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7867 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 14):

LH 458 is a 346 and LH 454 is a 744

Thanks.

So I don't know how many are on each one, but I doubt an A388 can replace both a 744 and 346.

LH 458 is from Munich and LH 454 is from Frankfurt. So unless the A380 can dump/retrieve a bunch of passengers as they fly over Frankfurt, two aircraft are going to be needed  Big grin

These flights seem always full though, so it might be that LH can upgrade both to A380.


User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7844 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
Actually when all is said and done, your best shot at seeing a 747-8 will probably be at ANC.

The best shot will be FRA. Not only the Pax, but also really many Cargo 744 here now.


User currently offlineLHPII From Croatia, joined May 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8089 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I bet SFO and LAX will each get at least one daily frequency. Where else?

SFO will definitely go to A380......it is a city that needs rather capacity then frequency. LAX possibly but i would also rather bet on A380 to go there!

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 10):
If LH keeps IAH a 747 destination, then I would say that we have a good shot of seeing it. BTW, any ideas as to when it might start service and who is the launch customer?


LH will definitely increase capacity at IAH since CO is becoming a member of Star alliance.
LH is a launch and sole customer so far, and will be the firstto start commercial service

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 24):
LH 458 is from Munich and LH 454 is from Frankfurt. So unless the A380 can dump/retrieve a bunch of passengers as they fly over Frankfurt, two aircraft are going to be needed

These flights seem always full though, so it might be that LH can upgrade both to A380.

A380 is going to be exclusivly based in FRA and MUC will not see it on SFO run, unless LH reinstates the same rotation as it had some years ago on B744 FRA-SFO-MUC-SFO-FRA, but I think it is highly unlikely, because LH would rather upgrade MUC-SFO-MUC to B748i then A380.


25 Directorguy : Unless LH has active plans to change its approach on a given route, we'll see all the 747-400 routes become 747-8i routes.
26 123 : I think GRU + EZE could be good target destinations because those flights are usually well booked.
27 Osteogenesis : LH will really have a great long range fleet with A380, 747-800, A340-600 and A330. They will have great option in order to find the ideal plane for e
28 Zeke : Well hopefully if it ever gets built, Seattle as well obviously.
29 _AA_777_MAN : ORD will obviously see the 748F. As for the passenger version who knows. LH's current schedule to ORD is FRA 2x daily 744 & mix of 333 & 343, MUC 1x d
30 Manfredj : I think we have a winner here folks, perhaps with only the most dense flights switched to 380. Don't forget LH is very comfortable with the 744's. Th
31 KC135TopBoom : I'm hoping that LH will eventually replace their daily A-340-300 with a B-747-8i to DFW.
32 RedChili : Does anybody know for sure if Lufthansa will split the fleet to FRA and MUC, or will they base all 748s in only FRA? Anybody got a link with some defi
33 Pellegrine : I predict in the United States: FRA-IAD, EWR, MIA, IAH, SFO I don't think any 748 routes will be from Munich.
34 Carls : An A380 will fly to MIA. CCS also see once in a while a 744.
35 Profcalvin : Sigh, Thats what I've been wishing practically my whole life here in Dallas, let alone to see something larger than a 772/343 (passenger). Oh well, a
36 KC135TopBoom : We use to have a daily KE B-744, and a JL B-744. JL pulled out of DFW as they could not compete with the AA B-77E daily DFW-NRT, and KE downgraded to
37 DL767captain : I would assume you will see 748s on current 744 routes that just need a small boost in capacity. The 744s will likely take over A340 routes that need
38 Gemuser : Well it was scheduled for 2010 according to QFs EGM. Due to the GFC, QF defering A380s and the resignation of the EGM I would think that has been pos
39 BMI727 : I was there a couple years ago and I got to see a CX 747 freighter takeoff. It was pretty cool, especially because they use the polished aluminum liv
40 DL767captain : I guess that's true but is it worth flying a sparsely loaded 748 on a route that could use an A343 just because of some more cargo? (i'm not trying t
41 ER757 : Well, if Keesje is to be believed, no cities will see the 748-i I'd say ORD, DEN maybe LAX in North America - possibly GRU and EZE is South America, J
42 BMI727 : No, not just cargo capacity. And I don't know how the premium seat breakdown of the LH fleet is, but I was just thinking that the extra cargo capacit
43 KC135TopBoom : Actually, DFW sees lots of B-747Fs, Atlas, China Air, CX, Singpore, UPS, occasional AF, and others. We also see a good number of MD-11Fs, like LH and
44 Profcalvin : Yeah, those were the days. I used to live near MCI and did MCI-DFW-NRT-NGO (komaki.. sigh i miss komaki) and I remember flying with JL but I though i
45 Columba : Not all, the current 747 routes will become either A380 or 747-8I routes the split between these two will be very interesting. I think JFK will see t
46 LipeGIG : Agree. All places served by the 744 and not expecting the 380 will be a potential destination for the 748 and Sao Paulo probably is one of them.
47 Bmacleod : YYZ should see LH 748s at some time. If KL orders the 748i, YYZ would be a definite. JL should they order the 748i would most definitely fly to YVR...
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