RampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1455 posts, RR: 2 Posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8455 times:
IPTE Modifications to be Complete on B747 in October, B777 Start Moves to February 2010
Modifications of the 24 aircraft in our Boeing 747 fleet to the new International Premium Travel Experience (IPTE) configuration remain on track to be completed in October 2009. However, work on the Boeing 777 fleet is being moved back a few months to start in February 2010.
While our International Premium Travel Experience (IPTE) aircraft continue to double our customer satisfaction scores, and the modifications continue to progress well, the B777 program is more complex than the B767 and B747 programs, given the three different B777 sub-fleets. In addition, we are facing a challenging year due to the global recession, changing market demand and increasing fuel prices.
The decision to postpone the start of the work also allows us to better control our costs in 2009, helping us maintain a stronger cash flow through the historical trough period of the fourth quarter.
We are developing a revised aircraft modification schedule, so it is too early to say when the full B777 modifications will be complete until we work out those details. We will expedite the modification work in the most cost-effective manner possible, but in the meantime, the 46 B777s in our fleet represent some of our newest aircraft, which serve our international travelers well.
We completed IPTE modification work on the B767 fleet of 21 aircraft in May
Olympic472 From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 406 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8278 times:
Finally the completion of the 744 modifications.
For what it is worth, at least it shows that management is attempting to be responsible regarding expenditures.
Any upcoming announcements on fleet purchases?
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8136 times:
Pellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1845 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8105 times:
Quoting SW733 (Reply 2): So this is politically correct for...? What is involved in this?
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22029 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7904 times:
Hey atleast the 763 and 744 fleets will be complete shortly.
I hope they have an aggressive schedule for the 777 fleet as dragging things out will make the product differentiation become an ever greater issue for customers.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Airnerd From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 250 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7811 times:
Is it just in Business and First? Does Y get any improvement out of this?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7780 times:
Quoting Airnerd (Reply 5): Is it just in Business and First? Does Y get any improvement out of this?
Cosmetic refresh in Y on the 763/744, (new bulkheads, carpeting, seat covers) and swapping the CRTs out for LCDs on the 744. The 777 will have new seats and updated larger PTVs in Y.
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7556 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 6): Cosmetic refresh in Y on the 763/744, (new bulkheads, carpeting, seat covers) and swapping the CRTs out for LCDs on the 744. The 777 will have new seats and updated larger PTVs in Y.
Is there still absolutely no chance of getting PTV's in coach on the 744?
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22029 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7432 times:
Sorry but I feel the 744 will be retired before they ever get PTVs, as any such project would have a long ROI period as it would involve the installation of all new seats besides all the electronics.
Also dont forget the weight issue, which in many ways is what primarily has kepted PTVs off the 744 fleet to date.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Yeah, no, this was their final refurbishment of the 744 fleet. They probably will not touch the aircraft again, other than maintenance. They are good for another 8 years or so, until A350-1000 or 773ER version 2.0.
I really hope UA does not eliminate the 777 plan entirely. From the schedule of this whole thing, it has always looked like they were not really sure they would have the money to do the 777. Sounds like they are postponing that decision.
Cessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 744 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7183 times:
Improve their customer satisfaction scores...
...maybe if they'd stop breaking people's guitars.
Boston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6602 times:
N93109 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 44 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5890 times:
Does the 767 upgrade include fixing the overhead bins or is the problem still going to be there for the international and domestic 763s? The smallest overhead bins -- will the international birds are getting fixed and domestic will still be small?
777law From Monaco, joined Jul 2006, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5099 times:
I was on UA a couple weeks ago between SIN and IAH. The new business product on the 744's is great - especially the lay-flat seats -- really world class in the comfort department. The selection for AVOD is a bit limited, but nice to have it on-demand now as opposed to a stream of looping movies. I hope they make the upgrades to the 777's soon -- there is really no comparison between UA's old int'l business class and the new product.
UA- Premier Platinum, AF / KL - Flying Blue Petroleum, BA Executive Club Silver
MarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 600 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4059 times:
Quoting Cessna172RG (Reply 11): Improve their customer satisfaction scores...
...maybe if they'd stop breaking people's guitars.
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3225 times:
United 777 fleet is the most important since it serves both the 744 and 767 markets, it also is the biggest in number of planes. They should fix the lomgest range 777 first. Its best UA take the opportunity with the recession to fix their most important international airplane, there is less demand and less pressure on the fleet for the upgrades.