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Travel+Leisure Magazine Best Of 2009 List  
User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

USA Today's Today in the Sky with Ben Mutzabaugh picked up a story on Travel + Leisure Magazine's best of 2009 list, and winners are:

'09 '08 Airline Score
1 1 Singapore Airlines 87.40
2 - Qatar Airways 83.06
3 - Emirates 82.02
4 - Japan Airlines 80.50
5 - Virgin Atlantic 80.42
6 - All Nippon Airways 79.09
7 - Cathay Pacific Airways 78.86
8 3 Thai Airways International 77.73
9 - Air New Zealand 76.95
10 - Asiana Airlines 76.93

Best Domestic Airline in US: Virgin America

Article:
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...em.aspx?type=blog&ak=68494110.blog
Intl. Rankings:
http://www.travelandleisure.com/worl...ults.cfm?cat=othercairlinesforeign
Travel+Leisure Press Release:
http://www.travelandleisure.com/worldsbest/2009/press.cfm

Interesting that there are no legacy European carriers on the list!


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21558 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3033 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Thread starter):
Best Domestic Airline in US: Virgin America

Doesn't help those who don't live in a VX destination much. I wonder what the top-rated US international carrier is.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1668 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Thanks very much. Glad that EK is on the list. QR are slightly ahead, but it's a smaller airline and it's easier to monitor quality control, I guess. SQ is a few points head, and is naturally the leader of the pack.
Surprised that VS is on the list, didn't know they were well regarded.
Glad Air NZ's on the list, they deserve it.


User currently offlineAABB777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 535 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2994 times:
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Also surprised that EY did not make the list...

User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2991 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 1):

Doesn't help those who don't live in a VX destination much. I wonder what the top-rated US international carrier is.

Yup I agree - though I've flown them between JFK and LAX, and I've got to say they are a different in flight experience all together from any domestic American outfit. The crew were all very energetic - I was surprised to see 4 cabin crew on my A320 - then I realized one guy was a trainee and it was his first flight. Well, he dropped an entire tray of coke on me. He was so apologetic - then the senior crew member came to me and apologized as well, and offered me free alcohol for the remainder of the flight (about 4 hours at this point). I completely understood and said it was no problem really, and that I was crew myself. Needless to say I spent the rest of the flight in the aft galley with the crew.

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 2):
Glad that EK is on the list

I'm glad too  Smile

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 2):
QR are slightly ahead, but it's a smaller airline and it's easier to monitor quality control, I guess.

Yeah, it will definitely be interesting to see the direction they go in the next several years as they continue to expand. I've just heard that they are recruiting in Australia again after a hiatus because they weren't "satisfied" with their previous Aussie recruits (most of whom jumped ship after the 6 month probationary period to either Emirates or Etihad) so it'll be a interesting few years ahead for QR!



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2973 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Thread starter):
Interesting that there are no legacy European carriers on the list!

No US either, with the exception of VX for domestic.

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 2):
Glad Air NZ's on the list, they deserve it.

Can certainly agree with you on that!


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2955 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
I wonder what the top-rated US international carrier is.

Well let's put it this way... T+L is owned by American Express... so, one guess as to whom T+L would pick as the top-rated US international carrier  Wink



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User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2934 times:

I'm surprised EY was blown off in this list.

User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2903 times:



Quoting AABB777 (Reply 3):
Also surprised that EY did not make the list...



Quoting OP3000 (Reply 7):
I'm surprised EY was blown off in this list.

I'm surprised as well, I personally think they are better than Qatar. But that's my bias  Wink Perhaps it's because they don't have much visibility in the American market yet? Qatar has a bit more given their IAD and JFK and most recently IAH ops versus Etihad's sole JFK? With ORD coming along soon, that might change. Their new terminal in AUH might also boost their rankings in the coming years, as their old infrastructure was desperately lacking. I flew with them to YYZ kind of recently and gotta say their weakest point is their catering - quantity was a bit lacking, and so was the presentation especially compared to us at EK - but again, that's my bias  Smile



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User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2878 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 8):
Perhaps it's because they don't have much visibility in the American market yet?

That's a big reason yes, and the other is the legacy phenomenon that typically happens with rankings, whether it be airlines, universities or hotels. Those people who publish them year by year have a natural prejudice in favor of those who have made the top of the list before, whether it be to appear consistent or just because its easier to just re-shuffle last year's a little instead of doing a from-scratch re-evaluation.


User currently offlineAtomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2774 times:



Quoting TWFirst (Reply 6):
Well let's put it this way... T+L is owned by American Express... so, one guess as to whom T+L would pick as the top-rated US international carrier

I don't get this. Does AX have a financial interest in one of the US airlines?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25077 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2698 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Thread starter):
Best Domestic Airline in US: Virgin America

 bigthumbsup  Kudos. Keep up the good work.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17428 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2617 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Thread starter):
Best Domestic Airline in US: Virgin America

With a whopping 9 destinations Yeah sure



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User currently offlineAtomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2609 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 12):

With a whopping 9 destinations Yeah sure

I guess they must do those 9 really well, huh?  Wink


User currently offlineRidgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Quoting TWFirst (Reply 6):
Well let's put it this way... T+L is owned by American Express... so, one guess as to whom T+L would pick as the top-rated US international carrier


Its actually voted on by their subscribers.

[Edited 2009-07-10 12:33:48]

User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Travel and Leisure I can do without. J.D Power is the award I'm looking to win. I mean come on, VX wins with 9 cites in its route network and LH isn't even in top ten. i believe it that subscribers voted on this.


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17428 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2283 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 15):
I mean come on, VX wins with 9 cites

Sun Country Airlines won as well and they have three times as many cities as VX Silly



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User currently onlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2425 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2206 times:



Quoting Atomsareenough (Reply 10):
I don't get this. Does AX have a financial interest in one of the US airlines?

They issue Delta SkyMiles branded credit cards.



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