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3 Interesting Events At BOS Today  
User currently offlineNavymmw From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 257 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 9089 times:

Hello everyone,

Today I went spotting at Constitution beach in Boston, MA. The beach provides nice views over rwy 22R and 22L, while I was there three interesting events took place.
First. I got to the beach at about 11:45, and within my first 2 minutes there I was treated with a verry nice surprise, a Antonov 124!
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ADB1726
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/navymmw/IMG_3098-1.jpg

Second was a American 767-300 which took off from BOS bound for LAX, however it soon returned to BOS about a hour later.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20090711/1714Z/KBOS/KBOS

Third a Continental 777-200 diverted into BOS originating from Ben Gurion. It is now on its way back to EWR.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...5/history/20090711/0857Z/LLBG/KBOS
and the current flight back http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...5/history/20090711/2117Z/KBOS/KEWR

If anyone has any info on any of these three occurrences that would be greatly appreciated, what a interesting day for my fist spotting trip! =)

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User currently offlineRonS From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 762 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8890 times:

Nice day huh!

Antonov was dropping off a new Engine for a BA 777 on north cargo.

Continental 777 picked up fresh crew.



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User currently offlineRonS From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 762 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8883 times:

Bye the way, did you get any good photos of the Antonov or Continental landing? I was too busy.


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15744 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8837 times:



Quoting RonS (Reply 1):
Antonov was dropping off a new Engine for a BA 777 on north cargo.

Why did they need the Antonov? I'm pretty sure that 777 engines will fit in a 747. Was it an issue of availability?



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User currently offlineTheCheese From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8695 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Why did they need the Antonov?

BA probably have a contract with the Antonov to provide that service.


User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8596 times:



Quoting RonS (Reply 1):
Antonov was dropping off a new Engine for a BA 777 on north cargo.

When did this BA 777 went tech? When I passed thru Logan on Thursday afternoon, it was already standing there on the apron between the cargo area and the international Terminal E.


User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1577 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8492 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Why did they need the Antonov? I'm pretty sure that 777 engines will fit in a 747. Was it an issue of availability?

If I am not mistaken, at least for the GE90, it will not fit on a 747 unless the front fan is taken off.


User currently offlineRonS From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 762 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8444 times:



Quoting CX288 (Reply 5):
When did this BA 777 went tech

I don't have the exact date, but I was there last weekend, and it was there on the north cargo ramp. So at the very least 7 days, but I believe more.



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User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7969 times:



Quoting CX288 (Reply 5):
When did this BA 777 went tech?

It has been there for at least two weeks. Got an up-close look at it last night.
Will post more pics on here soon...


User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6708 times:



Quoting LHCVG (Reply 6):
If I am not mistaken, at least for the GE90, it will not fit on a 747 unless the front fan is taken off.

It'll fit, it just has to be loaded laterally and can only go over the wings. Once its loaded its nearly impossible to get by on either side.


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6554 times:



Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 9):
It'll fit, it just has to be loaded laterally and can only go over the wings. Once its loaded its nearly impossible to get by on either side.

With all the 747 Classics BA used to have, and the number of 744s they now do have, it might have made sense for BA to take one of the older birds and make a 'Combi' out of it so that they could handle this fix on their own and much more quickly. They had some 747 Classics when the 777s came along (mid-1990s?), so it would be interesting to hear why that wouldn't have been a good plan. A 777 stranded at an out-station for two weeks isn't generating any revenue.

And it's not as though they'd have 747 Combi sitting around just waiting for 777s to break; it could have been a revenue-generating plane on its own.


User currently offlineFiestaFlight From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6530 times:

I noticed the BA 777 when I flew out midday on the Thursday before the Fourth of July...
and thought it was a weird spot for it since they usually turn 'em around pretty quick in the morning and evening at Teminal E gate.

I'm sorry I missed the Antonov, since I was at my office across the harbor all day. Logan activity has been especially great lately with the harbor being so packed w boats, ships and helos.
(tall ship festival)


User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6259 times:

I also thought that 747s could carry a 5th engine for just this sort of ferrying? Was that only on the older 747s with the smaller engines?

User currently offlineFEDEX35 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6003 times:
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ANYBODY KNOW THE REG OF THE 777

User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6104 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5785 times:
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Quoting Navymmw (Thread starter):
I was treated with a verry nice surprise, a Antonov 124!

I saw one of those come into DTW once. That was the highlight of my day.



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User currently offlineFxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5718 times:
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Quoting Navymmw (Thread starter):
Third a Continental 777-200

Fluid leak on N78013; replaced with N77006.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15744 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5599 times:



Quoting Reggaebird (Reply 12):
I also thought that 747s could carry a 5th engine for just this sort of ferrying? Was that only on the older 747s with the smaller engines?

I think that early 747s had a provision to carry a 5th engine on a wing pylon. The 707 may have had something similar, but I could be wrong. I don't recall ever hearing of this being used.



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User currently offlineTupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2185 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5293 times:

What a coincidence! I was at LHR on Thursday and saw a GE90 being trucked out of the BA maintenance area and away from the airport. On Friday a couple of friends saw this exact AN124 arrive and depart STN carrying a GE90. Perhaps the same one we saw leaving LHR?


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User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5170 times:



Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 17):
I also thought that 747s could carry a 5th engine for just this sort of ferrying?

Yep, this is quite correct for the 747 classic (there are photos in the database of an engine ferry), although I don't know about the -400, not that this would solve the 777 in BOS problem nor probably would a 777 be able to carry an extra engine for space and balance reasons.


User currently offlineBorism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5088 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 16):
Quoting Reggaebird (Reply 12):
I also thought that 747s could carry a 5th engine for just this sort of ferrying? Was that only on the older 747s with the smaller engines?

I think that early 747s had a provision to carry a 5th engine on a wing pylon. The 707 may have had something similar, but I could be wrong. I don't recall ever hearing of this being used.

That 5th engine must have been the same model as 4 others anyway, not an arbitrary one, let alone GE90.


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5034 times:

In any case, from an enthusiast point of view, who cares, we got to see an AN-124 lumber into BOS!

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15744 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4872 times:



Quoting Borism (Reply 19):
That 5th engine must have been the same model as 4 others anyway, not an arbitrary one, let alone GE90

Oh yeah I forgot to add that. Seeing a 747 would with a GE-90 hanging off of the wing would be quite a sight, until it flips over and crashes anyway.



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4802 times:

Yeah, I was talking about a 747 Combi that would hold an engine inside rather than slung beneath a wing. It seems like BA would be smart to have a 'delivery van' like that  Smile

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15744 posts, RR: 27
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4766 times:



Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 22):
Yeah, I was talking about a 747 Combi that would hold an engine inside rather than slung beneath a wing. It seems like BA would be smart to have a 'delivery van' like that

Well, BA doesn't have any 744 combis, and chartering cargo planes, while not as easy as FedExing something, isn't that hard, and probably cheaper than having their own dedicated plane.

But on a similar note, TWA had a C-82 Packet that was used to ferry engines and other parts around Europe mostly. I want to say that the plane was retrofitted with a supplementary jet engine above the fuselage. If I recall correctly, the plane was sometimes referred to by TW employees as the "Motor Toter" or "Ontos", which is Greek for "thing."



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4464 times:

The AN-124 is a rather common visitor elsewhere in New England...in Bangor. The planes fly through there several times a week, going between Charleston, SC and the Middle East. Fuel stops are often made at Bangor and certain airports in the UK.

25 Tb727 : Yep, N9701F, stilling hanging around HGR.
26 Theginge : I would imagine the expense of doing this, and having a 1 aircraft fleet of a B744 combi, is probably more than chartering another aircraft once in a
27 Borism : Um, I dunno. I guess it's quite hard to explain to shareholders why you need one B747-400M for this once-or-twice-a-year occasion which could fly pay
28 Post contains links and images Revelation : View Large View MediumPhoto © Robert Roggeman
29 Post contains links Go3Team : The Latest GE90 On It's 747 Test Bed. (by CCA Oct 26 2002 in Tech Ops)
30 TristarSteve : An engine is an asset. You cannot swap them just like that. BA could have borrowed an engine in the US, but there was not one available. If they had,
31 Post contains images Flyfisher1976 : It is G-ZZZC Took this photo last night...
32 Post contains images RonS : Agreed, but not off loading and loading GE90's   What a sight! [Edited 2009-07-12 19:45:27]
33 Reggaebird : There was another interesting event. An Air Canada Jazz Dash 8 had a landing gear problem and had to do an airport flyby around 7:00pm. Then the rescu
34 Rob2507 : I saw the CO and AA flights depart as well as the Jazz fly-by (thought it was a missed approach at first, but then noticed that they were flying direc
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