EmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10194 times:
Hi all,
EK have now updated the reservation system for the one day special A380 service to BHX on 09/09/09.. this is to celebrate Birmingham 75th Birthday (I think!)
Flights are loaded and available for booking, the A380 will replace the 77W service on the EK lunchtime flight.
So get you cameras out, its going to be an awsome sight watching her lift off from our "shortish" runway!!
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10646 posts, RR: 100 Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10147 times:
Question: Will they be selling all A388 seats or will EK, as per previous a.net rumors, sell on the number of seats they have on their 77W's 'just in case.'
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10133 times:
Hmmm, I'm looking on Emirates.com and all I see is the 777-300ER on September 9th...
Astuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9135 posts, RR: 96 Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10107 times:
Quoting EmiratesUK (Thread starter): So get you cameras out, its going to be an awsome sight watching her lift off from our "shortish" runway!!
Undoubtedly
Although I'd be surprised if the runway length is an issue if it's not for the 77W..
EmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10098 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 1): Question: Will they be selling all A388 seats or will EK, as per previous a.net rumors, sell on the number of seats they have on their 77W's 'just in case.'
My understanding is they will be selling it to the capacity of the 77W, just incase they need revert back to the 77W at short notice.
As for the runway length I beleive its about 2,600 meters
Also to celebrate the opening of the new International Pier, and the opening of the new Emirates Lounge within this building. It's going to be a day of celebration at BHX it seems!
I personally can't wait and will hopefully be there, no doubt BHX will be full of people come to watch.
EmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9805 times:
Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 6): Also to celebrate the opening of the new International Pier, and the opening of the new Emirates Lounge within this building. It's going to be a day of celebration at BHX it seems!
Mmmmm, I believe the new pier and EK lounge are running behind schedule.. I have been told that it wont be ready until the first week of December.. whilst it looks "almost" finished from the outside, the inside is still very much a shell and I dont see it being completed within the next 2 months.
I recently flew back from DXB with EK in June, we were running late and when we arrived in BHX our usual stand was taken, we parked on the old 40's stand and the pilot came on and said, Sorry Ladies and gentlemen but it looks like the airbridge next to us isnt working, we need to wait for stairs to arrive..
I looked at the pursar and said is he joking?! the pier isnt finished yet... its still a shell.. he just laughed...!!
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7143 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9061 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 11): BHX is England's second city mind
Third city even. Slightly surpirised that EK have gone "public" on this BHX one-off - does anyone know whats being planned for BHX in terms of regular A380 operations? Or even for this occasion (MAN's operational capabilites for it are known, seems to be a bit of a squeeze)
GayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9061 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 11):
BHX is England's second city mind
You said it! Birmingham is 2nd rate in every respect!
Astuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9135 posts, RR: 96 Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8897 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 11): The 77W has a much better TO performance than the A380
Slightly off-topic perhaps, but the two manufacturers characteristics documents don't really seem to support this, as far as I can tell.
Boeing say the 773ER, at 15 deg C and Sea Level, is capable of taking off at 322 tonnes (710k lb) from a runway length of 2 600m (approx 8 500ft).
That's 91.5% of its 352 tonne MTOW.
Airbus say the A380-800 (GP 7000 engines, as it's EK) at 15 deg C and Sea Level, is capable of taking off at 530 tonnes (1 165k lb) from a runway length of 2 600m (approx 8 500ft).
That's 94.5% of its 560 tonne MTOW.
(Unless I'm reading something wrong)
And I would have thought is more than adequate for DXB-BHX ...
Gkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 59 Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8762 times:
Quoting Astuteman (Reply 14): Slightly off-topic perhaps, but the two manufacturers characteristics documents don't really seem to support this, as far as I can tell.
Well, having seen both the A380 and 77W take off, I can happily say that the A380 is just a whale version of an A340-300
Astuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9135 posts, RR: 96 Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8754 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15): I can happily say that the A380 is just a whale version of an A340-300
DC10BHX From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 199 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8126 times:
No arguements from me about the A380 coming into BHX. As far as I am concerned EK can put this Aircraft into BHX from now on. It is also nice to see that they are using the Aircraft as a scheduled line flight and not just a non-revenue visitor.
It makes sense for the loads to be kept to 773 figures (just in case). I just hope they will be looking at taking their normal cargo loads on board (because I use that flight a hell of a lot).
I can see there being a whole lot of cameras here at BHX that day (I know mine will be coming in).
Iainbhx From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 234 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6909 times:
Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 21): You are looking purely at population figures in what is the Manchester Council area. This is misleading. Manchester is the UK's second City.
Oh....and I ain't a Manc.
Manchester is not the second city of the UK, it's that simple. Given if you want to the usual Manc trick of trying to claim "Greater Manchester" as an entity, then you have to let Birmingham claim the West Midlands area - still not second. Not second by population, not second by GDP ($27.8 billion vs $26.6 billion (fourth behind Leeds)). What is Manchester second by? Getting Manchester media based people to say it?
Aviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6452 times:
Quoting EK156 (Reply 10): Actually in Dubai - Burj Dubai the Tallest Tower in the World was also scheduled to open on 09/09/09
Also the Dubai Metro is opening 09/09/09
off the topic....
Quote: Burj Dubai, the tallest tower in the world, will be completed in December, three months later than scheduled, according to two contractors involved with the project.
The contractors said work still needed to be completed outside and inside the building and the new deadline was December.
A person close to Emaar Properties, dismissed previous reports that there would be a "soft opening" on Sept 9 to coincide with the launching of the first phase of Dubai Metro. The date was never confirmed by the company, the person said.
GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1724 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6269 times:
Quoting Iainbhx (Reply 22):
Manchester is not the second city of the UK, it's that simple. Given if you want to the usual Manc trick of trying to claim "Greater Manchester" as an entity, then you have to let Birmingham claim the West Midlands area - still not second. Not second by population, not second by GDP ($27.8 billion vs $26.6 billion (fourth behind Leeds)). What is Manchester second by? Getting Manchester media based people to say it?
Who mentioned Greater Manchester? Even so, if Birmingham want's to include the West Midlands then call it Greater Birmingham. We all know that Manchester is made up in a similar way to London yet London is clearly the 1st City despite the City of London being small.
Proud to fly from Manchester!
25 Skinny: The old debate about which is the better city - Birmingham or Manchester - has reared its ugly mug again. What a load of hot air. Brum is clearly the
26 Lightsaber: From a 3rd party perspective, the Manchester/Birmingham debate is amusing. Neither are in the top 30 by passenger traffic http://en.wikipedia.org/wik
27 EmiratesUK: EK send in a 2 class 77W on the lunch time flight and currently a 3 class 77W on the evening flight, however both flights are sold a Y & J only, the
29 Iainbhx: I'll be honest here, MAN will always be a bigger airport for aviation than BHX. That's where they can claim to be Number 2 . BHX will always suffer f
30 GT4EZY: I'd hardly see it's a debate about which City is best......Birmingham has some gems. However if it's going to be argued on infrastructure..... Manche
31 Lightsaber: Interesting choice of aircraft. Thank you for the information. When is that scheduled for completion? I've forgotten the new length too. (2800m? 3000
32 Skinny: But northern people have no class and wear track suits, own pitbulls and listen to techno while drunk on cider. Liverpool is by far the third City be
33 David_itl: Let's look at this simple fact: EK to MAN in June: 40590 pax. EK to BHX in June: 34006 pax. And this despite EK having to compete with daily services
34 GT4EZY: I'm not a Manc so that jibe was wasted on me mate. lol.
35 Iainbhx: 3000m plus 150m starter strip, for completion by 2012. Makes sense to me or we go to three flights at BHX.
37 Gkirk: It's grand Set to be surpassed by Glasgow 2014 Much prefer Glasgow or Newcastle/Gatsehead for shopping. Manchester is nothing special in this regard.
38 EmiratesUK: Well I'm please to say that I have just booked my ticket on the A380 ex BHX.. I treated myself to P class (first suites what ever you want to call it!
39 Daleaholic: Could fit in with the A380 supposedly visiting MAN on the 7th Sept...
40 Lightsaber: I remain amused its taking the jibes to get some excellent compartive numbers. I calculate that the MAN flights are at 79% Load factor (I used wikiped
41 LondonCity: One interesting fact is that, according to this article in businesstraveller.com, the A380 into BHX on 9 September replaces the A380 which would usual
42 Gkirk: I noticed that as well. UK regions 1 LHR 0
43 FlyEmirates: Aircraft is being sold as A380 and doesnt appear to have any payload restrictions with regard to pax load EK039 current booked 01F 09J 188Y estimated
44 FlyEmirates: Just out of interest how much did P class cost?
45 Crj200faguy: Forget Manchester and Birmingham, I'd rather be in Penzance.
46 Astuteman: Nor should it. The A388 takes off at a higher percentage of MTOW than the 773ER for any field length (15 deg C at sea level, 351t MTOW for 773ER take
47 LondonCity: Judging by these poor loads, I wonder how much this use of the A380 into BHX will be costing EK ? As has been noted above, this A380 would normally o
48 DanTaylor2006: According to the BHX Flightguide web page the new international piers south gates were handed over to BHX this Thursday, in the first phase of complet
49 Skinny: There are now 7 First sold not bad Emirates are doing very well at BHX and i will not be surprised if we get an A380 on a regular basis in the future
50 FlyEmirates: Rubbish... dont know where you are getting your facts, F bookings have even gone down to one each way EK039 current booked 01F 10J 190Y estimated 01F
51 Lightsaber: I wonder if its an a.net fan riding both ways in F? I was filled with hope by Skinny's post, but if the seats are not booked. How are the estimated n
52 Skinny: Hi I am getting my information from Banad a BHX spotters group one of the guys works for Emirates at BHX im just quoting him but info he posts is alwa
53 Pellegrine: Fabulous, post a picture of the shower if you get a chance. I haven't seen any photos of it except for promo material. Have a great flight!
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