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NW 25 Diverts To MSP 7/14  
User currently offlineKL642 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 350 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

I was on Post Road again today when a NW 744 landed and taxied to G4 where it was met by a fire truck and an ambulance. Flight in question was NW 25 from DTW with a medical emergency. It will depart at 6:16pm as NW 25D.
Alex

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User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2654 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

Looking at the flight on flightaware it looks like the 744 was going to divert to Duluth but diverted to MSP instead. I wonder why?


It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineVC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3798 times:

My first guess would be better medical facilities at MSP and the ready availability of all necessary ground handling equipment for Boeing 747-400s. If crew time was affected, this might also have come into play.

User currently offlineKL642 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Maybe the crew would have timed out so the decision was made to divert to MSP so a fresh crew could be assembled.

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19415 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3779 times:



Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 1):
Looking at the flight on flightaware it looks like the 744 was going to divert to Duluth but diverted to MSP instead. I wonder why?

Would you rather land a heavy 744 at Duluth or MSP?

Especially given that the Twin Cities have more medical facilities (although since common things are common, and the passenger probably had a common problem, medical care in Duluth would be more than adequate).


User currently offlineOOSLC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

Looks like it is now cancelled to NRT.

User currently offlineOOSLC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

Oh nevermind NWA.com is showing inflight...I have no idea why DLterm is showing it cancelled. I can't wait until this merger is done...northwest flights are so off on DLterm and are rarely correct.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3354 times:



Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 1):
Looking at the flight on flightaware it looks like the 744 was going to divert to Duluth but diverted to MSP instead. I wonder why?

Probably because the last time that a heavy diverted to DLH since they outsourced the ground, it was a complete mess.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3233 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 7):
Probably because the last time that a heavy diverted to DLH since they outsourced the ground, it was a complete mess.

Can you elaborate? I'm curious what happened after that diversion. Thanks in advance.



Jack @ AUS
User currently offlineWingnutmn From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 640 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Burnsie- I think you are off your rocker on this one! The last time was an international inbound, after customs normal hours. Also even if it was a normal customs hours, it still wouldn't have the capacity to handle an A333. Throw in to that mix a crew timing out, and you can see where s#%t would hit the fan. I almost positive it had absolutly nothing to do with ground handling.


Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing! It's a bonus if you can fly the plane again!!
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24886 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2951 times:



Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 1):
Looking at the flight on flightaware it looks like the 744 was going to divert to Duluth but diverted to MSP instead.

They advised Canadian ATC that they were diverting to DLH. Must have changed their mind later. Following from Transport Canada daily incident reports.

Northwest Airlines Boeing 747-400 (operating as flight NWA25) was on a scheduled IFR flight from Detroit (KDTW) to Tokyo (Narita) (RJAA). The aircraft was in the vicinity of 48º53'N 090º15'W when the flight crew advised they had a medical emergency and needed to divert to Duluth, MN (KDLH). A fuel dump was required and started at approximately 2103Z and continued into Minneapolis-St. Paul airspace. No other aircraft were inconvenienced.


User currently offlineRampguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2807 times:



Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 1):
Looking at the flight on flightaware it looks like the 744 was going to divert to Duluth but diverted to MSP instead. I wonder why?

Someone is NW flight control please explain to me why they would have even considered diverting a B747-400 to Duluth in the first place?


User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2654 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2706 times:



Quoting Rampguy (Reply 11):

I know many times during severe storms at MSP A330s and 747s divert to DLH or RST.



It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24886 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2579 times:



Quoting Rampguy (Reply 11):
Someone is NW flight control please explain to me why they would have even considered diverting a B747-400 to Duluth in the first place?

From the point where the diversion began to DLH was 146 nm, compared to 269 nm to MSP. In some medical emergencies the additional flying time could mean the difference between life and death.


User currently offlineWingnutmn From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 640 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Also...DLH has a 10,000 ft. runway, CAT 2 approach, and Customs (although it is small). It can handle a widebody diversion when it needs to.


Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing! It's a bonus if you can fly the plane again!!
User currently offlineSYfan100 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

MSP is a very good airport if you have a medical emergency. Or if you are having a emergency landing do to a aircraft problem.
See what makes MSP so good is not only the staff that is right on site at the airport. It is the communities around the airport that have a very good group of dedicated fire fighters, medical personal, and great hospitals.
If the fire pager goes off saying there is a major situation at the airport, they will drop what they are doing and get to their fire stations.
Doctors and Nurses will get into their major accident emergency plan that hospitals have.
But time and time again the debate comes up on why divert to MSP?
If I ran a Airline, I would want my aircraft to divert to MSP because of how good those responders are. It doesn't matter if it is a heart attack or something bad with the aircraft.


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